Black Ops II Trailer Shows Off the Future of Weaponry

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TheSapphireKnight

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Man that was seriously underwhelming. For all the new dressing it is the same game we have been getting for a couple years. Which is unfortunate because I really was a fan of the series but it has honestly just fizzled out for me.

For all the stuff they claim to be doing different on the single player side this multiplayer trailer just makes it looks like that is going to be a bunch of window dressing for yet another incredibly short experience. It almost immediately got on my bad side in the first trailer simply because it did that Homefront thing of throwing out complete bullshit and then pretending its not completely ridiculous.

Homefront: Yep, it is "terrifyingly plausible" that the North Koreans would suddenly develop such world class political skills to be able to conquer all the other nations without anyone else in the world pitching a fit. Also IRRADIATING THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY.

Black Ops 2: "Whole Robotic Armies... but no one asked what would happen if someone stole the keys..." Of course they wouldn't ask that because no one would be so god damn stupid to leave them so vulnerable and apparently all of them at once.

They may both very well be enjoyable games, but that sort of stuff rubs me the wrong way.

The one interesting aspect of the trailer was the bit at the end. If they included a way to create in game commentaries within the spectator/theater that would be pretty cool.
 

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vrbtny said:
Wait.... is there something vaguely resembling colour in this trailer?...

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Nope, sorry, my mistake.
Actually I thought the first few seconds with the windmills were pretty promising. And after that it was brown all over the place.

Yeah no it doesn't warm me up either. The guns look slightly different but I don't think they actually do something different. I appreciate the fact that they want to visit a new setting but they seem to barely make use of it.
 

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Hoplon said:
...How is this a squeal to the one set in the 60's?
Various returning characters. The main character is Mason's son, and you control Mason in various flash backs. Also Frank Woods is still alive.

It's just like how Black Ops was a sequel to World at War.
 

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Norix596 said:
Oh come on, have some imagination. FUTURE WEAPONS... including revolvers throwing knives, c4 charges with more buttons on it, grenades with blue particle effects instead of dust ones and redesigns of existing game robots. If you're going to have a future set shooter at least come up with some interesting sci-fi or at least new looking design ideas. The only thing that jumped out at me was them making the flash grenade into a deployable stereo system.
And what would you suggest? Lasers and Plasma? Those are just as unimaginative.
It would at least /imply/ future. Obviously it's supposed to be near future so we can't expect Mass Effect, but it hardly looks futuristic at all, the only thing there that wasn't really in MW, was the Microwave thing. Which we already have, so it's hardly futuristic. It looks almost exactly the same as MW except for some "futuristic" scopes, which are again, just reskinned red dot sights.
 

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Watched about five seconds of the trailer and then turned it off for two reason:

1) I've never really cared about multiplayer in Call of Duty. I like the games for the campaigns. The only multiplayer I enjoyed was Modern Warfare 2's. Now, if they release a Nazi Zombie trailer, I will watch that for hours. That's what I'm most excited about.

2) Just realized my brother took the speakers to the computer so he could have them for a project. No sound. Oops.
 

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elvor0 said:
WanderingFool said:
Norix596 said:
Oh come on, have some imagination. FUTURE WEAPONS... including revolvers throwing knives, c4 charges with more buttons on it, grenades with blue particle effects instead of dust ones and redesigns of existing game robots. If you're going to have a future set shooter at least come up with some interesting sci-fi or at least new looking design ideas. The only thing that jumped out at me was them making the flash grenade into a deployable stereo system.
And what would you suggest? Lasers and Plasma? Those are just as unimaginative.
It would at least /imply/ future. Obviously it's supposed to be near future so we can't expect Mass Effect, but it hardly looks futuristic at all, the only thing there that wasn't really in MW, was the Microwave thing. Which we already have, so it's hardly futuristic. It looks almost exactly the same as MW except for some "futuristic" scopes, which are again, just reskinned red dot sights.
Remember, that's just 12 years ahead, not 120. We won't have lazerguns until then, we still use ballistic weapons. Ballistic weapons in development RIGHT NOW.
But yeah, people only see future as "Halo" and then want lazerrifles - even if that time-period simply can't have it.
 

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I was mildly interested in this game before I saw this trailer. Unfortunately it looks like same old CoD with some different gun skins and even more ridiculous gadgets to ruin the balance and all sense of fair play.
 

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Bindal said:
elvor0 said:
WanderingFool said:
Norix596 said:
Oh come on, have some imagination. FUTURE WEAPONS... including revolvers throwing knives, c4 charges with more buttons on it, grenades with blue particle effects instead of dust ones and redesigns of existing game robots. If you're going to have a future set shooter at least come up with some interesting sci-fi or at least new looking design ideas. The only thing that jumped out at me was them making the flash grenade into a deployable stereo system.
And what would you suggest? Lasers and Plasma? Those are just as unimaginative.
It would at least /imply/ future. Obviously it's supposed to be near future so we can't expect Mass Effect, but it hardly looks futuristic at all, the only thing there that wasn't really in MW, was the Microwave thing. Which we already have, so it's hardly futuristic. It looks almost exactly the same as MW except for some "futuristic" scopes, which are again, just reskinned red dot sights.
Remember, that's just 12 years ahead, not 120. We won't have lazerguns until then, we still use ballistic weapons. Ballistic weapons in development RIGHT NOW.
But yeah, people only see future as "Halo" and then want lazerrifles - even if that time-period simply can't have it.
I think that expecting some interesting futuristic tech that is beyond slight variations of modern weapons isn't asking for too much when we have articles like these popping up all the time:

http://www.gizmag.com/medusa-microwave-crowd-control-raygun/9605/
http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/05/29/judge-dredd-weapon-is-armys-newest-device/
 

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elvor0 said:
WanderingFool said:
Norix596 said:
Oh come on, have some imagination. FUTURE WEAPONS... including revolvers throwing knives, c4 charges with more buttons on it, grenades with blue particle effects instead of dust ones and redesigns of existing game robots. If you're going to have a future set shooter at least come up with some interesting sci-fi or at least new looking design ideas. The only thing that jumped out at me was them making the flash grenade into a deployable stereo system.
And what would you suggest? Lasers and Plasma? Those are just as unimaginative.
It would at least /imply/ future. Obviously it's supposed to be near future so we can't expect Mass Effect, but it hardly looks futuristic at all, the only thing there that wasn't really in MW, was the Microwave thing. Which we already have, so it's hardly futuristic. It looks almost exactly the same as MW except for some "futuristic" scopes, which are again, just reskinned red dot sights.
Yes, laser and such would imply future. But how futuristic are we talking here? This isnt 150 years into the future, this is about 13 years (2025). I doubt we are going to make an major jumps in weapon technology, save for maybe robotics and smart munitions. We will probably still be using the same old bullets as we do now, and as we did a for more than a century.

To much "future" would be just as disconnecting as the "lack" of future we are seeing in Blops 2 now.

Of course, maybe lasers and such in 13 years isnt all that disconnecting. People believed we would having flying cars and such in by 2000... and that was in the 60's...
 

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Boudica said:
Black Ops. Cold War. China. Modern/Near future setting.
Its not actually a Cold War with China. While the nationality of the main villain hasn't been revealed yet, his appearance suggests European/Russian. He uses the frustration and anger built up around the world in the "99%" (IE: The poor and downtrodden) to incite violence and terrorist attacks around the world, but mainly focused on the US since the US is viewed as the "source and breeding ground of the problem".

He uses stolen and exploited US technology to launch these attacks without actually having to be "based" anywhere or build up forces of his own - the whole "He doesn't need his own weapons; he's got ours." thing from the villain trailer a little while ago.
 

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Boudica said:
Black Ops. Cold War. China. Modern/Near future setting.

Is it actually hard to come up with new ideas? Let me try!

Spies discover the U.S. has been covertly attempting to influence Canadian policy, in the hopes of one day culturally annexing the nation. Canada has plans to release this information to the world. American special forces team is sent in to kill the politicians in the know and to set up Canadian Prime Minster. World thinks Canada instigates a war with the U.S. Fighting ensues on the border.

Pick your country and play out the campaign.


DONE.
THat's actually a really good idea. Especially if the single player campaign forced you to play as the US side first and played it out as a standard "Lone team of elite soldiers take down entire platoons while ignoring everything in the Geneva convention and yet not getting punished for it" scthick that has become a staple of all these brown military shooters lately, only to find out at the end that UH OH! This time, YOU WERE THE BAD GUY. Well, the badDER guys, on account of that whole Geneva convention thing.
 

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My prediction: those X-Ray scopes shown towards the beginning of the trailer (the one that, for instance, let the player see someone coming around a shipping container) will be ridiculously over-used by pretty much everyone.
 

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RJ 17 said:
My prediction: those X-Ray scopes shown towards the beginning of the trailer (the one that, for instance, let the player see someone coming around a shipping container) will be ridiculously over-used by pretty much everyone.
thats what i think as well. noobs always take the cheap way to play these games. just like the noobs in MW3 overusing the aikimo weapons. seeing this made me even more skeptical to get the game.
BF3 starts to get ridicules as well with this premium crap and lately more cheaters. im already dead after 2 shots wile i have to fire always half a mag in to a guy wile having the same weapon as the others.

i think i give this one a miss. i will be busy anyway with AC3.
 

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Syzygy23 said:
Boudica said:
Black Ops. Cold War. China. Modern/Near future setting.

Is it actually hard to come up with new ideas? Let me try!

Spies discover the U.S. has been covertly attempting to influence Canadian policy, in the hopes of one day culturally annexing the nation. Canada has plans to release this information to the world. American special forces team is sent in to kill the politicians in the know and to set up Canadian Prime Minster. World thinks Canada instigates a war with the U.S. Fighting ensues on the border.

Pick your country and play out the campaign.


DONE.
THat's actually a really good idea. Especially if the single player campaign forced you to play as the US side first and played it out as a standard "Lone team of elite soldiers take down entire platoons while ignoring everything in the Geneva convention and yet not getting punished for it" scthick that has become a staple of all these brown military shooters lately, only to find out at the end that UH OH! This time, YOU WERE THE BAD GUY. Well, the badDER guys, on account of that whole Geneva convention thing.
So...a less interesting version of Spec Ops: The Line?