I'm inclined to agree.ItsAChiaotzu said:
I have no problem with quickscoping as I either do not have the skill to do it, or have not figured out this apparent exploit that makes it so easy.
Basically... I can't do it so I presume it must be hard.
Black Ops rage... welcome to the next year of your life.
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I have no problem with quickscoping as I either do not have the skill to do it, or have not figured out this apparent exploit that makes it so easy.
Basically... I can't do it so I presume it must be hard.
Yep, COD requires either serious dedication or a lot of natural talent to stay at a level where you can compete. People play that game all day every day!
With New Vegas, AC Brotherhood, Fable 3 all out, its gonna be tough to find the time to be good at Black Ops
Glad you agree about the Betas.[/quote]
I will say I have some natural talent at gaming, but the total lack of both skill as well as dedication to most games (unless their either superb (which i'm not saying this game isn't), or an RPG)
As for the list you have, I WISH my backlog was that small... If I count my steam games I'd easily say that I have over 20 games at least in my backlog (not even counting games I want to replay...)
With New Vegas, AC Brotherhood, Fable 3 all out, its gonna be tough to find the time to be good at Black Ops
Glad you agree about the Betas.[/quote]
I will say I have some natural talent at gaming, but the total lack of both skill as well as dedication to most games (unless their either superb (which i'm not saying this game isn't), or an RPG)
As for the list you have, I WISH my backlog was that small... If I count my steam games I'd easily say that I have over 20 games at least in my backlog (not even counting games I want to replay...)
They did, but as Miracle stated, it isn't played by the general public who happens to be very, very cunning. If they had an open beta, the hackers/exploiters would have torn it to shreads, which would have given Treyarch good data on how to improve and fix everything.archvile93 said:
Private Beta's have their purpose, but they aren't very good when your game's going to be played by millions at once.
Whereas pulling a Chopper Gunner out of a crate is fair and reasonable?razelas said:
Besides, I never saw the supposed cheapness of quickscoping. It's more difficult than sniping normally.
Haven't tried the game yet but I agree with those who say that realism should have no place in multiplayer shooters. But it's also annoying when you have to shoot the guy in the head 2-3 times to get an effing headshot, or being able to survive 2 shots with sniper rifle... Its about finding the right balance, and we'll see will Treyarch manage to do this.
Ok, I don't see a difference between this and Modern Warfare 2. Extremely similar perks, different guns but I'm guessing they have similar stats to MW2, and some slightly new perks.
It's definitely a renter, but Black Ops is going to have to do a lot of convincing in order for me to not deem it MW2, but slightly better (in some cases). Why would I buy a game I already have?
If you played MW2 you are familiar with the title S.S.D.D. (Same Shit, Different Day)
I'm hoping Black Ops won't brand itself with this label.
It's definitely a renter, but Black Ops is going to have to do a lot of convincing in order for me to not deem it MW2, but slightly better (in some cases). Why would I buy a game I already have?
If you played MW2 you are familiar with the title S.S.D.D. (Same Shit, Different Day)
I'm hoping Black Ops won't brand itself with this label.
Well I'm getting it at midnight, so hopefully a few hours of early play will make up for lack of both dedication and natural skill.MiracleOfSound said:Yep, COD requires either serious dedication or a lot of natural talent to stay at a level where you can compete. People play that game all day every day!
With New Vegas, AC Brotherhood, Fable 3 all out, its gonna be tough to find the time to be good at Black Ops
Glad you agree about the Betas.
Personally I didn't see a huge improvement in my game when I went around quickscoping, so I'm not concerned. Some people will miss it, but they can either adapt or leave.
And wasn't the idea of Second Chance that the other person needed to have the perk as well? It worked in WAW because if you used the perk you would be on the look out for others that use it. Healing downed teammates probably won't get used too much, though, as it's not easy to get a kill with your pistol when you're being fired at.
Balance is achieved through slow and small changes over time. From my experience (Command and Conquer series), if you try to release patches that provides huge changes, you will make something else imbalanced as a result.
Anyways...
OT: Chopper Gunner I'm really on the fence for this game, you need to get 11 kills to get it, and that's without the assistance of other killstreaks, which means it's harder to get it. I'll just say this, if you suck enough to feed someone a chopper gunner, then so be it. I also did not see the opposing team try to use a launcher AT ALL, I only heard a beeping sound from the chopper indicated that maybe a launcher was fired at it, but I didn't see any visual indication of one doing so.
Hardline Pro is something I can't really say anything about, since I don't exactly know how it worked in that video. Although, what are the chances you're going to ask a random pubbie to change it for ya?
I will say the same thing I said about Second Chance in regards to the perks related to it, if you haven't already adapted to wasting a few extra bullets for the possibility that the enemy player has Second Chance/Last Stand from the last 3(?) games, then you deserve to die. This is based off of speculation and since the game isn't out, I can't say anything for sure.
I also got to point out, that before the person got Chopper Gunner, the score was "2800ish-800ish", this means that his team had 28 kills to their 8 kills and this also means that the opposing team was terrible. It would not surprise me if they were too incompetent to try to shoot down the chopper, it also wouldn't surprise me if they fed someone into a chopper gunner anyways.
Edit: I could wrong with what I say now, and end up eating my words a month later, but this is where I stand now.
Anyways...
OT: Chopper Gunner I'm really on the fence for this game, you need to get 11 kills to get it, and that's without the assistance of other killstreaks, which means it's harder to get it. I'll just say this, if you suck enough to feed someone a chopper gunner, then so be it. I also did not see the opposing team try to use a launcher AT ALL, I only heard a beeping sound from the chopper indicated that maybe a launcher was fired at it, but I didn't see any visual indication of one doing so.
Hardline Pro is something I can't really say anything about, since I don't exactly know how it worked in that video. Although, what are the chances you're going to ask a random pubbie to change it for ya?
I will say the same thing I said about Second Chance in regards to the perks related to it, if you haven't already adapted to wasting a few extra bullets for the possibility that the enemy player has Second Chance/Last Stand from the last 3(?) games, then you deserve to die. This is based off of speculation and since the game isn't out, I can't say anything for sure.
I also got to point out, that before the person got Chopper Gunner, the score was "2800ish-800ish", this means that his team had 28 kills to their 8 kills and this also means that the opposing team was terrible. It would not surprise me if they were too incompetent to try to shoot down the chopper, it also wouldn't surprise me if they fed someone into a chopper gunner anyways.
Edit: I could wrong with what I say now, and end up eating my words a month later, but this is where I stand now.
Ok, basically, you're acting like anything else in Call of Duty is realistic. In a real war, do you think that once you kill 11 terrorists the army will let you teleport into a helicopter? Fuck no.razelas said:
Quickscoping is balanced. It's ridiculously hard to be good at it and this is just taking away from those who took the time to be decent at the game.
I find it facinating how everyone in this thread that seems to realise that most people are just overreacting and then express it in their posts get called trolls and other insults. Must be because of the same trend that goes around these parts where in an argument the person with an higher post count seems to be always right and has the bigger mob behind him. That's at least what I've witnessed with my own eyes and have had the pleasure of experiencing myself. For example this razelas guy. Totally valid points and made good arguments perhaps in a tad agressive way but if you can't handle it on the internet, you shouldn't be here.
Also as many people have stated.
-Nuke Town, small map like Shipment and Rust so ofc there will be a lot of instant spawndeaths.
-Helicopters and whatnot have been really easy to take down if you're willing to do something about them. I have no promblem to biting a grenade if needed so that I can take out that killstreak that's keeping my team from winning. Also, use of cover is not a bad thing.
-Dogs bark. If you have ears you'll probably know they're coming. Also they don't have guns. Usually when in a fight where the other one has a ranged weapon and other has to get on your skin to get the kill, I've found out that usually the person with a gun wins. Aren't the dogs just like knifing players anyway? One hit kill if they get close, though the dogs don't attack you if don't shoot (at least that's how it seems to be)
-RC, same thing as dogs. It makes noise. Shoot it.
-Quickscoping has never been a problem for me because I play on PC and I have not seen a lot of it or have not felt like a game breaker. From what I've seen on consoles I do support it being removed since it seems hella cheap. Also the guy in the video seems like a raging fanboy. Why would you even use a scope at that range when you could just hammer on the trigger and shoot a lot of sharp metal objects out of your metal penis extention?
I probably forgot something here but someone has most likely already said it anyways. I'm still looking forward to this game because I know there will be ragers like in this thread playing the game and I can totally F their day up for just a little bit by using all this "cheap" shit. Have a nice day <3
PS: I must say I smiled when I see that one guy not undestanding why the map has dummies and funky looking buildings on it. Oh my...
E: Also a fucking wall o' text.
Also as many people have stated.
-Nuke Town, small map like Shipment and Rust so ofc there will be a lot of instant spawndeaths.
-Helicopters and whatnot have been really easy to take down if you're willing to do something about them. I have no promblem to biting a grenade if needed so that I can take out that killstreak that's keeping my team from winning. Also, use of cover is not a bad thing.
-Dogs bark. If you have ears you'll probably know they're coming. Also they don't have guns. Usually when in a fight where the other one has a ranged weapon and other has to get on your skin to get the kill, I've found out that usually the person with a gun wins. Aren't the dogs just like knifing players anyway? One hit kill if they get close, though the dogs don't attack you if don't shoot (at least that's how it seems to be)
-RC, same thing as dogs. It makes noise. Shoot it.
-Quickscoping has never been a problem for me because I play on PC and I have not seen a lot of it or have not felt like a game breaker. From what I've seen on consoles I do support it being removed since it seems hella cheap. Also the guy in the video seems like a raging fanboy. Why would you even use a scope at that range when you could just hammer on the trigger and shoot a lot of sharp metal objects out of your metal penis extention?
I probably forgot something here but someone has most likely already said it anyways. I'm still looking forward to this game because I know there will be ragers like in this thread playing the game and I can totally F their day up for just a little bit by using all this "cheap" shit. Have a nice day <3
PS: I must say I smiled when I see that one guy not undestanding why the map has dummies and funky looking buildings on it. Oh my...
E: Also a fucking wall o' text.
The guy in the video stating that the new patch makes it impossible to snipe is using his sniper incorrectly. He quite efficiently hits the dude unscoped, but then when he looks through the scope and tries to hit just after aiming, he complains when it doesn't work. It's really hard to use a sniper rifle standing up, especially the bigger ones, and firing straight from the shoulder looking through your scope and expecting a hit is not clever at all.
I've probably had the most fuck-all time with this game and debating whether to get it or not.
My Gamestop is doing a special tonight where when you trade in MW2, you get 20 bucks off of Black Ops. My MW2 disk doesn't work anymore...soooo...good reason to get it. (+)
I LOATHED WaW, which has made me leery of Treyarch. (-)
I'm a sucker for presentation, and so far, this game has been promoted very well, just by the style of it. Rolling Stones will get you far in my books. (+)
This thread, it's videos, and a lot of facts building up are making me remember how mediocre MW2 was in my eyes. Add one of my two despised developers (the other being Obsidian) and I may save my money for something else. (-)
So I'm at a standstill...but I think I'll save the moola for my heavy-duty airsoft gun I'm making to be The Patriot from MGS3.
My Gamestop is doing a special tonight where when you trade in MW2, you get 20 bucks off of Black Ops. My MW2 disk doesn't work anymore...soooo...good reason to get it. (+)
I LOATHED WaW, which has made me leery of Treyarch. (-)
I'm a sucker for presentation, and so far, this game has been promoted very well, just by the style of it. Rolling Stones will get you far in my books. (+)
This thread, it's videos, and a lot of facts building up are making me remember how mediocre MW2 was in my eyes. Add one of my two despised developers (the other being Obsidian) and I may save my money for something else. (-)
So I'm at a standstill...but I think I'll save the moola for my heavy-duty airsoft gun I'm making to be The Patriot from MGS3.
That makes me happy. Considering I don't quick scope or no scope. I just camp and try to stay stealthyDaystar Clarion said:
I'm going to point out that the single player campaign has already been walked through [http://www.gameanyone.com/game/X360/7878.html]. The time? 5 hours on Regular.
I maintain my disapproval towards everyone who's bought this game.
I maintain my disapproval towards everyone who's bought this game.
Ah, the Escapist Official COD-Multiplayer Alarm System works again. I'll wait another month or two, but this looks like another 70euros towards that Chaos Marine Battleforce I've been eyeing up.
Thanks Miracle, you spared me a Hell of Bitching 15-Year-olds.
Incidentally, any news on the AK?
Thanks Miracle, you spared me a Hell of Bitching 15-Year-olds.
Incidentally, any news on the AK?
I'm guessing the Sniper thing is to stop quick scopes that seem so prevalent in Modern Warfare 2, not a bad thing, but you know a lot of people will be complaining about it. As for the Woodsy video, all I got to say is damn.
If you can get something like that, well damn. If you get something like that from a Care Package, then there is gonna be a lot of problems. Not to mention the fact that you can see the spawns changing back and forth, not by where everyone was, but because the game just decided to switch them around. I'm not a fan of most spawn systems that games use, but when the spawns put you in a situation for instant death, then there is a problem. You can even see Woodsy get killed from enemies that just re spawned.
I'm not a fan of Call of Duty multiplayer, I haven't been one since World at War, so I probably won't be experiencing the same amount of rage my brother will be while I'm playing Nazi Zombies.
If you can get something like that, well damn. If you get something like that from a Care Package, then there is gonna be a lot of problems. Not to mention the fact that you can see the spawns changing back and forth, not by where everyone was, but because the game just decided to switch them around. I'm not a fan of most spawn systems that games use, but when the spawns put you in a situation for instant death, then there is a problem. You can even see Woodsy get killed from enemies that just re spawned.
I'm not a fan of Call of Duty multiplayer, I haven't been one since World at War, so I probably won't be experiencing the same amount of rage my brother will be while I'm playing Nazi Zombies.
To be fair that map where he gets the chopper gunner is pretty small so it would be easy to get a lot of kills with it. But i do think if you get something crap in your care package someone can change it to something better is a pretty bad idea. In the second video the guy is trying quickscope when you can't anymore. Treyarch did that thing with the scope so that people would be forced to snipe properly. But i think they could have done it a bit better, rather than making you have to wait 2-3 seconds for the crosshair to steady they should have just made it take longer to look through the scope.