Black people playing Norse gods
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Jesus was more likely to be black rather than tanned but more to the point I agree 100%. Why can't that character be black?Amy Sorel said:
No one complained about the Green Lanturn being black in the Justice League cartoon.
Why are people getting upset over a black Heimdall but not an Australian Thor? The vikings never met an Australian, they never went to Australia, so none of their gods would be Australian.
STICK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!
Yes, I am taking the piss. Thank you for noticing.
STICK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!
Yes, I am taking the piss. Thank you for noticing.
...that they're not shapeshifters?008Zulu said:
Unless you're suggesting they blacked up. With paint.
I'm a Nordic pagan and Thor is one of my patron gods and honestly them making one black doesn't bother me, it's fiction and based off a damn comic.Some people really do need to get over themselves you know
That's because he was Jon Stewart not Hal Jordan, one of several Green Lanterns and black in the comics.AVATAR_RAGE said:
Like someone else already said. He's not actually Thor. And its from a Marvel Comic book so its all pretty "Who-gives-a-crap". 
If it were about actual North mythology i'd be a bit "WTF?". Other then that, meh. Its Marvel therefor its stupid and pointless.
If it were about actual North mythology i'd be a bit "WTF?". Other then that, meh. Its Marvel therefor its stupid and pointless.
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But Ultimate Nick Fury was black!
Actually, if he's White Australian I wouldn't care.RhombusHatesYou said:
Keep in mind that the damn movies were mostly set IN BRITAIN, at BRITAIN's only school for witchcraft and wizardry? It makes sense!enriel said:
People, people, are we forgetting that they should stick to the sources?
It's simple reasoning. Why do we see Jesus as white? Because we are white. What would the Norse have seen Heimdall as? White.
And you know what is horribly ridiculous too?
HEIMDALL'S EPITHET IS "THE WHITE GOD".
Goddammit.
The sources being the Marvel comic, which has been taking massive liberties with Norse mythology from day one. One more liberty isn't going to kill any one.[zonking great said:
the main problem (some) people have with this is that heimdall is supposed to be the whiteset of the white gods, the people casting it probably could have gotten away with one of the other gods being black without the same backlash.
but then there is always the ignorant, inbred, shit crickets who just plain don't like them there foreigners and coloured people!
but then there is always the ignorant, inbred, shit crickets who just plain don't like them there foreigners and coloured people!
For all of you people saying that nobody cares about how Thor looks, i just wish to point out that here in Denmark (probably also Sweden and Norway) that the Norse Mythologi is still thriwing. And i guess some of those people wont be to happy about it
I should know.. Im sitting with "Thors hammer" in a necklace, same way as christians have a cross.
Im a proud dane, and proud of my inheritence.. But quite frankly.. I dont give a shit about this movie, i know it will fail completly in portraying my culture... Because it aint.
Hejmdal is of virgin birth from 9 Jætte sisters and was the whitest of the white..
And god there is a lot of ignorance about the viking culture in this thread - We were not barbarians, we was a trading and exploring people, discovering Iceland, Greenland - and North America a couple of hundreds years before Columbus.
And we did know how black people looked, after all we kept them as slaves - that said, it was'nt uncommon for a Viking man to free one for marriage.
Sure we raided England a couple of times, hell we even ruled the land once - But we where not more brutal or barbaric than any other culture of the time... Romans salting the plains of Carthage so that nothing ever would grow there again ?
At the end, in my community of norse believers nobody gives a shit... It's a damn HOLLYWOOD movie, nothing in it will be portrayed correct. In our eyes it could just aswell be a bunch of guys with the same names as our gods.
I should know.. Im sitting with "Thors hammer" in a necklace, same way as christians have a cross.
Im a proud dane, and proud of my inheritence.. But quite frankly.. I dont give a shit about this movie, i know it will fail completly in portraying my culture... Because it aint.
Hejmdal is of virgin birth from 9 Jætte sisters and was the whitest of the white..
And god there is a lot of ignorance about the viking culture in this thread - We were not barbarians, we was a trading and exploring people, discovering Iceland, Greenland - and North America a couple of hundreds years before Columbus.
And we did know how black people looked, after all we kept them as slaves - that said, it was'nt uncommon for a Viking man to free one for marriage.
Sure we raided England a couple of times, hell we even ruled the land once - But we where not more brutal or barbaric than any other culture of the time... Romans salting the plains of Carthage so that nothing ever would grow there again ?
At the end, in my community of norse believers nobody gives a shit... It's a damn HOLLYWOOD movie, nothing in it will be portrayed correct. In our eyes it could just aswell be a bunch of guys with the same names as our gods.
I think ol' Stan "The Man" Lee would find this discussion quite amusing. Whenever you here him citing the creation of one of his characters it usually boils down to 'I thought 'wouldn't it be neat if...' then I would give the idea to Jack Kirby to make it pop.'
From what I can remember of Kirby's early work, pretty much every face was the same, give or take facial hair and hair style, so to say the film is some sort of Aryan idealism is to say Jack Kirby, and by extension Marvel Comics, promoted these ideals, which is obviously bollocks.
From what I can remember of Kirby's early work, pretty much every face was the same, give or take facial hair and hair style, so to say the film is some sort of Aryan idealism is to say Jack Kirby, and by extension Marvel Comics, promoted these ideals, which is obviously bollocks.
More importantly, in Hollywood brits are only allowed to be bumbling fools in rom-coms, or the evil genius that nevertheless gets beaten by some dumbass action hero.emeraldrafael said:
I am actually extremely annoyed that these people decide to cast a man who doesn't look a bit like the part to play Heimdal. I find it fucking ridiculous that they need to alter my cultural heritage in order to have the cast better represent the ethnic diversity in modern day North-America.
If I am ever going to make a movie about pre-civil war USA, I will now make sure to cast white people as the slaves, and black and asian people as the European settlers.
Edit: Or perhaps I should cast all the people as whites - Even the slaves - To make the movie mirror the ethnic diversity in my country...
But wait: This is a movie adaption of a comic book, so I couldn't really care much less. If it was a movie that was actually about Norse mythology, and they claimed historical accuracy though; then I would be pissed.
If I am ever going to make a movie about pre-civil war USA, I will now make sure to cast white people as the slaves, and black and asian people as the European settlers.
Edit: Or perhaps I should cast all the people as whites - Even the slaves - To make the movie mirror the ethnic diversity in my country...
But wait: This is a movie adaption of a comic book, so I couldn't really care much less. If it was a movie that was actually about Norse mythology, and they claimed historical accuracy though; then I would be pissed.
Indeed. When I first read the comics, I thought they were supposed to be just that: superheroes who took the names of Norse gods.Napierdalac said:
Turns out that they actually are supposed to be the real Norse gods, but whatever.
<spoiler=It is not like we expect a movie based of a marvel comic to accurately represent our mythology>http://satwcomic.com/art/nordic-halloween.jpg
I sincerely doubt thats the reason they casted him, more likely they put out a casting call for actors, "no race specified" as MovieBob pointed out. They had a whole hoard of auditions and the best one was Idris Elba, a fantastic actor (if you've seen the wire you'd know). Then instead of turning him down because his race was wrong, they figured "hey, he's the best actor and it's a relatively minor part, what's the worst that could happen?"Jonluw said: