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OP weapons in recent games are any AK and the FAMAS, and thanks to quickscoping noobs a lot of sniper rifles have become game breaking too.

Mitsurugi in Soul Calibur... such a noob character.
Mitsurugi I disagree with. He takes skill to pull off his moves have decently. You want OP'd, pick someone like Seigfried. I remember in Soul Blade he had a combo that was Triangle triangle Triangle. Once he got you once with it you could keep spamming it and you couldn't do anything. O_O
No, thats cheap tactics... nothing to do with the character. Seigfried and Nightmare are slow but powerful with some decent range, unlike Mitsurugi who is powerful, fast and has range. People dont complain about Astaroth because he is just so fucking slow but he has probably the longest reach on the game, if you learn how to play as Astaroth you can play keep away with everyone, especially other slow characters as you have longer range. The only character who can fight Astaroth with distance was the chick with the Sword and Shield who could fire lightning... which, by the way, is annoying when you get spammed by that.


Nawh, I think you just need to get better at playing Mitsurugi. You can still take him out using heaps of different people. If you use your character the way they're ment to be used, and you do it well, then you can win most times.

I usually go the Koreany-guy, or the rip off from Hwrang from Soul Edge.
Again, you miss the point... How you play or who is playing as a character has nothing to do with POWER, its already determined in their design. I could beat Mitsurugi as easily as farting on a paralyzed dog but that wouldnt change the fact that he is powerful, fast and has good range. He is an OP character and that is that.
But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
 

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But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.

The FAMAS isnt as accurate or as powerful as a sniper rifle... but its still OP in both BF3 and Black Ops.

Mitsurugi isnt as strong as the big characters... but he isnt much weaker. He isnt as fast as the fast characters... but he isnt much slower. And while he range isnt equal to Astaroth, when you include the fact that he is much faster than Astaroth and does better than average damage then its obvious who is statistically the better character. Thats the exact same with every character you pair Mitsurugi up against, he will be better than them when taking all three things into considertion.

He has better range than most characters, he has more strength than most characters and he is faster than a lot of characters... thats probably the only one he isnt better than most people on but when you consider he can just play keep away with his range and power then he has the upperhand against the fast but weak characters who really need to close the distance to get a hit in. Like I said, that is that.
 

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JC Denton with Dragon's tooth. Doesn't matter if you have any points in melee skill or not. That blade will insta-kill almost every enemy!
 

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But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.

The FAMAS isnt as accurate or as powerful as a sniper rifle... but its still OP in both BF3 and Black Ops.

Mitsurugi isnt as strong as the big characters... but he isnt much weaker. He isnt as fast as the fast characters... but he isnt much slower. And while he range isnt equal to Astaroth, when you include the fact that he is much faster than Astaroth and does better than average damage then its obvious who is statistically the better character. Thats the exact same with every character you pair Mitsurugi up against, he will be better than them when taking all three things into considertion.

He has better range than most characters, he has more strength than most characters and he is faster than a lot of characters... thats probably the only one he isnt better than most people on but when you consider he can just play keep away with his range and power then he has the upperhand against the fast but weak characters who really need to close the distance to get a hit in. Like I said, that is that.
So what you're saying is, is that he's slightly above average and an all-rounder, as opposed to being actually over powered. o_o
 

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But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.

The FAMAS isnt as accurate or as powerful as a sniper rifle... but its still OP in both BF3 and Black Ops.

Mitsurugi isnt as strong as the big characters... but he isnt much weaker. He isnt as fast as the fast characters... but he isnt much slower. And while he range isnt equal to Astaroth, when you include the fact that he is much faster than Astaroth and does better than average damage then its obvious who is statistically the better character. Thats the exact same with every character you pair Mitsurugi up against, he will be better than them when taking all three things into considertion.

He has better range than most characters, he has more strength than most characters and he is faster than a lot of characters... thats probably the only one he isnt better than most people on but when you consider he can just play keep away with his range and power then he has the upperhand against the fast but weak characters who really need to close the distance to get a hit in. Like I said, that is that.
So what you're saying is, is that he's slightly above average and an all-rounder, as opposed to being actually over powered. o_o
No, you might want to re-read what I wrote. I explained it rather thuroughly, dont waste my time pretending I said something I didnt.
 

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Warachia said:
Arontala said:
Hector, from Fire Emblem.

Hector is always the answer.
Except he isn't overpowered, he's not somebody like matthew who can dodge everything, and if you encounter a mage with elfire or bolting he's screwed.

So while he is strong, he's nowhere near as strong as some of the others you get in that game, how about when they flat out give you the bishop and archbishop in the final missions, both of whom can easily solo the main villain, or how about canas, who might as well have turned into a god by the time the game is over (he's able to kill a dragon in two attacks with no legendary weapons) with how much he can take and dish back.
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)

 

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sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
Arontala said:
Hector, from Fire Emblem.

Hector is always the answer.
Except he isn't overpowered, he's not somebody like matthew who can dodge everything, and if you encounter a mage with elfire or bolting he's screwed.

So while he is strong, he's nowhere near as strong as some of the others you get in that game, how about when they flat out give you the bishop and archbishop in the final missions, both of whom can easily solo the main villain, or how about canas, who might as well have turned into a god by the time the game is over (he's able to kill a dragon in two attacks with no legendary weapons) with how much he can take and dish back.
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)

My money is still on Canas, who can solo entire maps, and because Julia only becomes overpowered when you give her an overpowered weapon (duh). I don't know about your game, but I was consistently able to get Canas's hp over 40, and his magic, defence, resistance, and speed maxed out (with no boosters to help him), effectively making him invulnerable until the last two maps, where again, you only need to use him to win. Also, when I say kill a dragon in two hits, I mean one with 120 hp and about 25+ resistance.

My point being if you want to compare them fairly, you need to take away her utimate weapon and compare them stat to stat, and that too seems a little biased, because Canas can only gain 30 levels in game, and it looks like she gains more, but that second point is probably moot if I checked growth rates.
 

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Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
Arontala said:
Hector, from Fire Emblem.

Hector is always the answer.
Except he isn't overpowered, he's not somebody like matthew who can dodge everything, and if you encounter a mage with elfire or bolting he's screwed.

So while he is strong, he's nowhere near as strong as some of the others you get in that game, how about when they flat out give you the bishop and archbishop in the final missions, both of whom can easily solo the main villain, or how about canas, who might as well have turned into a god by the time the game is over (he's able to kill a dragon in two attacks with no legendary weapons) with how much he can take and dish back.
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)
My money is still on Canas, who can solo entire maps, and because Julia only becomes overpowered when you give her an overpowered weapon (duh). I don't know about your game, but I was consistently able to get Canas's hp over 40, and his magic, defence, resistance, and speed maxed out (with no boosters to help him), effectively making him invulnerable until the last two maps, where again, you only need to use him to win. Also, when I say kill a dragon in two hits, I mean one with 120 hp and about 25+ resistance.

My point being if you want to compare them fairly, you need to take away her utimate weapon and compare them stat to stat, and that too seems a little biased, because Canas can only gain 30 levels in game, and it looks like she gains more, but that second point is probably moot if I checked growth rates.
Maxed Stats? Jesus, you must be lucky! He turns out like this on average (with bit less defense and a little more resistance.)



I know what dragon you speak of(It's resistance is actually 40 along with its defense).
The thing is Canas' ability to kill the dragon in two hits is contingent upon 2 things.

1. Canas must use the Luna spell (because otherwise he can't really damage the dragon)
2. Canas has to get two critical hits in a row (which is pretty unlikely)

If we're gunna compare the two without their ultimate weapons (Luna & Narga), then canas' ability to dispatch the dragon quickly becomes impossible.

Both start with similar bases and both can only gain 30 levels. (Geneology of the Holy War, the game Julia's from, has a level cap of 30, but it doesn't reset after class changes).

In the picture, above Julia's only gained 21 levels and she already puts Nino to shame.
 

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sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
Arontala said:
Hector, from Fire Emblem.

Hector is always the answer.
Except he isn't overpowered, he's not somebody like matthew who can dodge everything, and if you encounter a mage with elfire or bolting he's screwed.

So while he is strong, he's nowhere near as strong as some of the others you get in that game, how about when they flat out give you the bishop and archbishop in the final missions, both of whom can easily solo the main villain, or how about canas, who might as well have turned into a god by the time the game is over (he's able to kill a dragon in two attacks with no legendary weapons) with how much he can take and dish back.
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)
My money is still on Canas, who can solo entire maps, and because Julia only becomes overpowered when you give her an overpowered weapon (duh). I don't know about your game, but I was consistently able to get Canas's hp over 40, and his magic, defence, resistance, and speed maxed out (with no boosters to help him), effectively making him invulnerable until the last two maps, where again, you only need to use him to win. Also, when I say kill a dragon in two hits, I mean one with 120 hp and about 25+ resistance.

My point being if you want to compare them fairly, you need to take away her utimate weapon and compare them stat to stat, and that too seems a little biased, because Canas can only gain 30 levels in game, and it looks like she gains more, but that second point is probably moot if I checked growth rates.
Maxed Stats? Jesus, you must be lucky! He turns out like this on average (with bit less defense and a little more resistance.)



I know what dragon you speak of(It's resistance is actually 40 along with its defense).
The thing is Canas' ability to kill the dragon in two hits is contingent upon 2 things.

1. Canas must use the Luna spell (because otherwise he can't really damage the dragon)
2. Canas has to get two critical hits in a row (which is pretty unlikely)

If we're gunna compare the two without their ultimate weapons (Luna & Narga), then canas' ability to dispatch the dragon quickly becomes impossible.

Both start with similar bases and both can only gain 30 levels. (Geneology of the Holy War, the game Julia's from, has a level cap of 30, but it doesn't reset after class changes).

In the picture, above Julia's only gained 21 levels and she already puts Nino to shame.
Give me a little while, I'll put my Canas up, I just don't have it now and am currently busy. I guess I am just lucky with builds though, usually Lucius gets right up there too.

Incidentally, Canas only needs to get one critical hit, which luna can boost up to 30+, if your attack is too low, use Nils to boost it.
 

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Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
Arontala said:
Hector, from Fire Emblem.

Hector is always the answer.
Except he isn't overpowered, he's not somebody like matthew who can dodge everything, and if you encounter a mage with elfire or bolting he's screwed.

So while he is strong, he's nowhere near as strong as some of the others you get in that game, how about when they flat out give you the bishop and archbishop in the final missions, both of whom can easily solo the main villain, or how about canas, who might as well have turned into a god by the time the game is over (he's able to kill a dragon in two attacks with no legendary weapons) with how much he can take and dish back.
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)
My money is still on Canas, who can solo entire maps, and because Julia only becomes overpowered when you give her an overpowered weapon (duh). I don't know about your game, but I was consistently able to get Canas's hp over 40, and his magic, defence, resistance, and speed maxed out (with no boosters to help him), effectively making him invulnerable until the last two maps, where again, you only need to use him to win. Also, when I say kill a dragon in two hits, I mean one with 120 hp and about 25+ resistance.

My point being if you want to compare them fairly, you need to take away her utimate weapon and compare them stat to stat, and that too seems a little biased, because Canas can only gain 30 levels in game, and it looks like she gains more, but that second point is probably moot if I checked growth rates.
Maxed Stats? Jesus, you must be lucky! He turns out like this on average (with bit less defense and a little more resistance.)



I know what dragon you speak of(It's resistance is actually 40 along with its defense).
The thing is Canas' ability to kill the dragon in two hits is contingent upon 2 things.

1. Canas must use the Luna spell (because otherwise he can't really damage the dragon)
2. Canas has to get two critical hits in a row (which is pretty unlikely)

If we're gunna compare the two without their ultimate weapons (Luna & Narga), then canas' ability to dispatch the dragon quickly becomes impossible.

Both start with similar bases and both can only gain 30 levels. (Geneology of the Holy War, the game Julia's from, has a level cap of 30, but it doesn't reset after class changes).

In the picture, above Julia's only gained 21 levels and she already puts Nino to shame.
Give me a little while, I'll put my Canas up, I just don't have it now and am currently busy. I guess I am just lucky with builds though, usually Lucius gets right up there too.

Incidentally, Canas only needs to get one critical hit, which luna can boost up to 30+, if your attack is too low, use Nils to boost it.
Discounting Nils and supports(tis cheating to use someone else), Canas can deal a max of 29 damage with Luna (Mag caps at 29). 1 crit = 29 x 3 = 87 damage. 120-87 = 33 which is more than 29. Therefore Canas, needs two crits to kill the dragon in 2 strikes.

Canas usually is like this: average stats [http://www.serenesforest.net/fe7/average/canas.html]

speaking of lucky characters, Lute always seems to be pretty good for me.

 

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sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
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sextus the crazy said:
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)
My money is still on Canas, who can solo entire maps, and because Julia only becomes overpowered when you give her an overpowered weapon (duh). I don't know about your game, but I was consistently able to get Canas's hp over 40, and his magic, defence, resistance, and speed maxed out (with no boosters to help him), effectively making him invulnerable until the last two maps, where again, you only need to use him to win. Also, when I say kill a dragon in two hits, I mean one with 120 hp and about 25+ resistance.

My point being if you want to compare them fairly, you need to take away her utimate weapon and compare them stat to stat, and that too seems a little biased, because Canas can only gain 30 levels in game, and it looks like she gains more, but that second point is probably moot if I checked growth rates.
Maxed Stats? Jesus, you must be lucky! He turns out like this on average (with bit less defense and a little more resistance.)



I know what dragon you speak of(It's resistance is actually 40 along with its defense).
The thing is Canas' ability to kill the dragon in two hits is contingent upon 2 things.

1. Canas must use the Luna spell (because otherwise he can't really damage the dragon)
2. Canas has to get two critical hits in a row (which is pretty unlikely)

If we're gunna compare the two without their ultimate weapons (Luna & Narga), then canas' ability to dispatch the dragon quickly becomes impossible.

Both start with similar bases and both can only gain 30 levels. (Geneology of the Holy War, the game Julia's from, has a level cap of 30, but it doesn't reset after class changes).

In the picture, above Julia's only gained 21 levels and she already puts Nino to shame.
Give me a little while, I'll put my Canas up, I just don't have it now and am currently busy. I guess I am just lucky with builds though, usually Lucius gets right up there too.

Incidentally, Canas only needs to get one critical hit, which luna can boost up to 30+, if your attack is too low, use Nils to boost it.
Discounting Nils and supports(tis cheating to use someone else), Canas can deal a max of 29 damage with Luna (Mag caps at 29). 1 crit = 29 x 3 = 87 damage. 120-87 = 33 which is more than 29. Therefore Canas, needs two crits to kill the dragon in 2 strikes.

Canas usually is like this: average stats [http://www.serenesforest.net/fe7/average/canas.html]

speaking of lucky characters, Lute always seems to be pretty good for me.

In that case, do you count supports (as in friends who have support conversations) as cheating? If not, you can just put somebody near him, and slaughter the dragon with the damage boost they give you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AinX2j20fMk

Although, now I don't really need to show you my Canas, he usually ends up as good (usually better) than your Lute (who I never really use and I know she isn't fully levelled yet).

I do find it rediculous though that you say Canas's speed is low, maybe the growth rates are but for me he usually gets up pretty high, and I consider a low constitution a plus, it lets me move him around the battlefield faster.
 

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Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Warachia said:
sextus the crazy said:
Canas' Heavy tomes combined with his low constitution and average speed makes him merely very good, but certainly not OP.

If we're talking about ridiciously OP, then I dare you to top Yuria(Julia) when she gets the narga tome (the most OP magic tome I have seen with a strength of 30 and all those stat bonuses.)
My money is still on Canas, who can solo entire maps, and because Julia only becomes overpowered when you give her an overpowered weapon (duh). I don't know about your game, but I was consistently able to get Canas's hp over 40, and his magic, defence, resistance, and speed maxed out (with no boosters to help him), effectively making him invulnerable until the last two maps, where again, you only need to use him to win. Also, when I say kill a dragon in two hits, I mean one with 120 hp and about 25+ resistance.

My point being if you want to compare them fairly, you need to take away her utimate weapon and compare them stat to stat, and that too seems a little biased, because Canas can only gain 30 levels in game, and it looks like she gains more, but that second point is probably moot if I checked growth rates.
Maxed Stats? Jesus, you must be lucky! He turns out like this on average (with bit less defense and a little more resistance.)



I know what dragon you speak of(It's resistance is actually 40 along with its defense).
The thing is Canas' ability to kill the dragon in two hits is contingent upon 2 things.

1. Canas must use the Luna spell (because otherwise he can't really damage the dragon)
2. Canas has to get two critical hits in a row (which is pretty unlikely)

If we're gunna compare the two without their ultimate weapons (Luna & Narga), then canas' ability to dispatch the dragon quickly becomes impossible.

Both start with similar bases and both can only gain 30 levels. (Geneology of the Holy War, the game Julia's from, has a level cap of 30, but it doesn't reset after class changes).

In the picture, above Julia's only gained 21 levels and she already puts Nino to shame.
Give me a little while, I'll put my Canas up, I just don't have it now and am currently busy. I guess I am just lucky with builds though, usually Lucius gets right up there too.

Incidentally, Canas only needs to get one critical hit, which luna can boost up to 30+, if your attack is too low, use Nils to boost it.
Discounting Nils and supports(tis cheating to use someone else), Canas can deal a max of 29 damage with Luna (Mag caps at 29). 1 crit = 29 x 3 = 87 damage. 120-87 = 33 which is more than 29. Therefore Canas, needs two crits to kill the dragon in 2 strikes.

Canas usually is like this: average stats [http://www.serenesforest.net/fe7/average/canas.html]

speaking of lucky characters, Lute always seems to be pretty good for me.

In that case, do you count supports (as in friends who have support conversations) as cheating? If not, you can just put somebody near him, and slaughter the dragon with the damage boost they give you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AinX2j20fMk

Although, now I don't really need to show you my Canas, he usually ends up as good (usually better) than your Lute (who I never really use and I know she isn't fully levelled yet).

I do find it rediculous though that you say Canas's speed is low, maybe the growth rates are but for me he usually gets up pretty high, and I consider a low constitution a plus, it lets me move him around the battlefield faster.
Well part of it's just getting lucky with the RNG. That said Canas is speedy enough, It's just that dark magic is heavy so non-flux stuff tends to slow him greatly (doesn't matter to much execept vs. bosses).
 

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Kinguendo said:
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But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.

The FAMAS isnt as accurate or as powerful as a sniper rifle... but its still OP in both BF3 and Black Ops.

Mitsurugi isnt as strong as the big characters... but he isnt much weaker. He isnt as fast as the fast characters... but he isnt much slower. And while he range isnt equal to Astaroth, when you include the fact that he is much faster than Astaroth and does better than average damage then its obvious who is statistically the better character. Thats the exact same with every character you pair Mitsurugi up against, he will be better than them when taking all three things into considertion.

He has better range than most characters, he has more strength than most characters and he is faster than a lot of characters... thats probably the only one he isnt better than most people on but when you consider he can just play keep away with his range and power then he has the upperhand against the fast but weak characters who really need to close the distance to get a hit in. Like I said, that is that.
So what you're saying is, is that he's slightly above average and an all-rounder, as opposed to being actually over powered. o_o
No, you might want to re-read what I wrote. I explained it rather thuroughly, dont waste my time pretending I said something I didnt.
Saying 'Most' characters and 'alot' of characters doesn't make him over powered, it makes him tougher than some, but not OP. o_O
 

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As powerful as Tryndamere is he is nowhere near some of the shit that was in the League in its early days.
Some examples include Twisted Fate when he was released, had a 2 sec AoE stun on a 5 sec cool-down and his teleport was available at level 1. Xin Zhoa was much more tankier than now, had much more damage than now and more CC, he could 1v5 teams without a sweat. Jax, dodge was easier to get and would work on towers, and he has some sick ratios on his abilities to boot. Eve's old passive that stopped her attacks from causing your tower to defend you. Also Ryzes spellflux that was a bouncing ball of death in its heyday. "Oh God it's Yi".

And then there where the unintended things (though I'm not sure this counts). Karthus could become immortal, his passive wouldn't time out. Anivia's stun wouldn't end after a while and instead could happily travel across the entire map if you were lucky. And then there was Nasus' ultimate, which would hurt people for 0.01% of their health every second for every point of ability power they had, except that they forgot to add the decimal point...

In fact Tryndamere was quite a bit more powerful back then, cleanse didn't just make you resistant to cc but made you immune, his q also gave attack speed if I remember correctly and his ultimate lasted longer.

Long story short, League of Legends is fairly balanced nowadays, especially compared to when it just came out.


Edit: How could I forget Heimer and his minion trick :(

 

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Terminate421 said:
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Burrito With Legs said:
Sonic's final smash isn't over-powered. Metaknight is the most over-powered character in the game.

For me, it's probably how over-powered some of the weapons in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 are, namely the Akimbo FMG9s and the Type-95 Rapid-Fire.
Yes but Metaknights final smash is weak and can easily be dodged. Plus I never have any problems with fighting him. Bot or friends.
Over powered? Lucas's is instakilling game breaking over powered, at least ness has the option to avoid it. The only way to survive lucas is to use the "turn into a rock" move that Kirby has.

Lets not forget about Ike's.......

Meta Knight takes a fair deal of skill to use, if you use it right, you can get insta-kills you have earned.

Sonic's is a mix for me.
Ikes smash is perfectly survivable.
Now if you properly mod ssb
And come up against a sephiroth.......

No hold that thought
If you mod wrong and you get a botched version of Dark samus
That was the most overpowered thing I saw in a game as of yet
(Moved at the speed of light in ball form untouchable and leaving a path of destruction behind her)
 

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Solo-Wing said:
In Super Smash Bros Brawl this award goes to Sonic and his Final Smash. I am fairly certain his Final Smash is why Smash Orbs were banned in tourneys.
Based on Final Smashes only, I believe that Pikachu's Final Smash, Volt Tackle, is much cheaper than Sonic's, because Volt Tackle can go through solid surfaces, is easier to control, and lasts just as long as Super Sonic (assuming you don't press the B button every second that you are using the Smash Move).

On the subject of SSBB, I believe that Ike and Snake are too overpowered. They try to disguise Ike a standard powerhouse, but his move sets give him too much reach and makes it difficult to get close enough to him without taking a broadsword to the face. Snake's bit is about his arsenal, but his standard attacks alone do a ton of damage (not to mention that he's too fast to be considered a powerhouse). With other powerhouses, they have reasonable setbacks that make them more balanced for gameplay; Ganondorf is powerful, but slow (similarly with Bowser and King Dedede), and Wolf's move sets are different and sluggish, so he mostly relies on his normal move set and blaster.

Also, I want to say the whole Mod Racers game (for PSP) is too overpowered, at least to newcomers. I get that a game shouldn't let you win all the time and by losing you learn to get better, but this game is ridiculous. ON THE FIRST RACE, if you do not utilize ALL of the game's racing techniques (Boosting, Drifting, Tricks off Ramps, Weapons, etc.) you will be lucky if you even get 4th place (you need to be in at least 3rd to proceed with the story). If you utilize SOME of these techniques, you might get into 3rd. If you practice and become better with the techniques and familiar with the map, you might be lucky enough to 2ND PLACE. This was literally the first PSP game that made me rage quit because it is ridiculous. I can expect this insanity on the later races, but not from the get go.
 

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Luca Blight from Suikoden II

The guy takes THREE parties to fight, six people each party, doesn't go down.

Challenges the hero to a duel after that, still doesn't go down.

Finally, gets shot with a volley of arrows, makes a freakin badass speech, goes down.

If that doesn't scream overpowered, I don't know what does.
 

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ScreamingNinja said:
Saying 'Most' characters and 'alot' of characters doesn't make him over powered, it makes him tougher than some, but not OP. o_O
No, it doesnt... and completely misunderstanding a point doesnt disprove that point.

Let me ask you, have you played games before?

I seperated the three factors of power to show how he is over powered, and in doing that I seem to have confused you as you can only see them as seperate. I'll try to make it more simple then...

Lets say strength, reach and speed each have a potential of 10 so the total potential would be 30. Astaroth would have 10 strength, 10 reach and 1 speed. Mitsurugi would have 8 strength, 7 reach and 6 speed. Statistically they would be exactly the same but Mitsurugi would still have the advantage as his speed far exceeds Astaroths where his Strength and Reach does not far exceed Mitsurugis.

Fighting games arent just determined by who is the strongest, that is not what determines who is and is not OP... it very rarely does in gaming. Mitsurugi is OP because he is better than average at the very least in all aspects.
 

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Kinguendo said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Saying 'Most' characters and 'alot' of characters doesn't make him over powered, it makes him tougher than some, but not OP. o_O
No, it doesnt... and completely misunderstanding a point doesnt disprove that point.

Let me ask you, have you played games before?

I seperated the three factors of power to show how he is over powered, and in doing that I seem to have confused you as you can only see them as seperate. I'll try to make it more simple then...

Lets say strength, reach and speed each have a potential of 10 so the total potential would be 30. Astaroth would have 10 strength, 10 reach and 1 speed. Mitsurugi would have 8 strength, 7 reach and 6 speed. Statistically they would be exactly the same but Mitsurugi would still have the advantage as his speed far exceeds Astaroths where his Strength and Reach does not far exceed Mitsurugis.

Fighting games arent just determined by who is the strongest, that is not what determines who is and is not OP... it very rarely does in gaming. Mitsurugi is OP because he is better than average at the very least in all aspects.
But Astaroth would still have more strength and reach, thus meaning you just have to block more. Thus, Mitsurugi isn't op. Thus, point dis proven!