BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma Continues the Magic Rebellion

[Fappy]

I have one quick question for the fans.
I've heard the story of this game is good, but do I need to play the past versions to completely understand the story? or can I just get this one and understand everything?

Get Extend so you can get a gist of what's going on. The story is very interesting and the characters incredibly well-developed. I'd argue it's one of the best game casts in a LONG time.

Anyway, very excited to hear this. I guess all that work on P4: A side tracked Mori's boys and now we can FINALLY get on with the story. All the newbies have interesting Drives according to Dustloop and the mechanics have gone through a BIG rehaul.

Also, Bullet has an INSANE Distortion Drive it goes:

720+A>720+D>1080+D (requires an extra 50% Heat). Yeah, 2520 degrees (SEVEN full rotations) to use the second followup. There go a LOT of joysticks.

Wow that hurts my brain. I fucking hate excessive rotations... especially if you need to do them in the air

 

[RaikuFA]

I doubt it, I decided to get KoF13 last year, had some issues with the tutorial. Decided to go to SRK and see if I could get some help in learning how to peform this problem(don't remember, had cancel in its name). All I was met with was being called "scrub" told to go back to Smash and even a mod joined in(I looked for it but it seems to have been deleted). I said screw it its just the FGC being the FGC. I practiced a bit in practice mode, played the campain for a few days, decided to go online. Got curbstomped then a message from my opponent saying I should have my hands broken because I suck so much.

Went NOPE then traded it in at GS. Hell as much as a SMT fan I am and I consider P4 as the ultimate example of character development in fiction I'm not gonna get the upcoming fighter.

Also you guys seems to worship this guy: http://youtu.be/51uMToqY8VI

I'm sorry that happened to you, but a bad day on SRK and online doesn't really indicate much. Especially the online part, if that's the worst you've experienced then you've had it easy. It's got nothing to do with the FGC in particular it's the scrubby online badmouthing trash that makes every community look bad. As for SRK? I have no idea of the nature of the conversation but I'd have loved to help you had I been there. I'm sad to hear that one of our biggest sites treated you poorly but you're the one letting it affect your enjoyment of the game and your view and treatment of others.

Also I can't even tell who that man is, I'm a scrubby 09er who played marvel 2 in an arcade maybe once in my life and never had the kind of group that would make me so defensive that I would try to turn away someone interested in my favorite genre.

See I'm going, without getting both sides to the story, at least play devil's advocate here because I've seen the "n00b" queries go both ways. Mostly because the reaction that one gets is almost entirely dependent on what you ask and how you ask. I say this because I've yet to encounter a forum that restricts the ability of registered members to use its search function. So if someone comes in asking a very common question it indicates to the established community that this person didn't bother looking to see if others had had similar questions and decided that they where a special, unique snowflake deserving of everyone's attention and they will (deservedly) be treated accordingly (see also: mocked mercilessly). Similarly if the inquiry is phrased in such a way that the individual is essentially asking for the community to explain either incredibly basic game mechanics and/or really, really dumb the game down then they are likely to once again be met with hostility because such a question indicates a complete lack of research and is a waste of everyone else's time. If neither of these criteria where met then whatever happened was unfortunate and maybe you just caught people on a bad day.

Well, lets see, I just searched cancel in srk and no results relating to KoF13.

And I doubt it was just a bad day since it was a span a week or so.

 

[Dango]

Well fuck, I just bought Continuum Shift Extend for PS3 the other day.

And Bullet's outfit and assets are... interesting...

 

[Bakodo]

Well, lets see, I just searched cancel in srk and no results relating to KoF13.

And I doubt it was just a bad day since it was a span a week or so.

Two different results from SRK: "Cancel - cancels are a staple mechanic in virtually every Street Fighter. A cancel is defined by any action that interrupts the normal animation of an attack causing another attack to be initiated. IE, the full animation is canceled out of early, allowing for time for the second attack to combo. The second attack is generally a special or super. Ryu's low medium kick to fireball is a textbook example of this combo."

"Cancel is a general term in any fighting game and can mean many things, depending on the context. Usually it refers to canceling a normal into a special in the Street Fighter series, denoted by "xx" in combo notation. This is also known as a "two in one", as you perform the motion for the special immediately after inputting the normal. An example of a cancel with Ryu is: low forward xx fireball, which means you would input down+forward kick, then immediately move the stick to down forward, forward, and press punch.

Some moves are cancelable and some are not; refer to each individual game for details."

The problem with SRK, and from the sounds of it the problem you run into, is that a given game's section is primarily intended for people who have the fighting genre basics down, and are transitioning into that game, rather than starting with it. It's likely why you had trouble finding cancel in the KOF section, as cancel is a general term for the genre. There's a section just for players who want to learn general basics, but from what I know, it uses Street Fighter as the base, so it can be a bit confusing starting with a different game. It's why I prefer Dustloop, which unfortunately doesn't help you since it focuses primarily on Aksys-developed games, and doesn't have a section for KOF, although it does have a basic glossary explanation for general fighting game terms.

On topic, looking forward to this, as I actually DO play Blazblue for the plot. Seems most of the stages in the trailer are new, which makes sense since all the characters are traveling to Ikaruga, and no longer in Kagutsuchi. The three new characters all look like fun, especially Bullet and Azrael, although the fact that Bullet has a 1080 distortion drive scares me.

 

[Neoseek]

Awesome can't wait!

Noel looks different, also liking the look of that Azrael guy

 

[RaikuFA]

Well, lets see, I just searched cancel in srk and no results relating to KoF13.

And I doubt it was just a bad day since it was a span a week or so.

Two different results from SRK: "Cancel - cancels are a staple mechanic in virtually every Street Fighter. A cancel is defined by any action that interrupts the normal animation of an attack causing another attack to be initiated. IE, the full animation is canceled out of early, allowing for time for the second attack to combo. The second attack is generally a special or super. Ryu's low medium kick to fireball is a textbook example of this combo."

"Cancel is a general term in any fighting game and can mean many things, depending on the context. Usually it refers to canceling a normal into a special in the Street Fighter series, denoted by "xx" in combo notation. This is also known as a "two in one", as you perform the motion for the special immediately after inputting the normal. An example of a cancel with Ryu is: low forward xx fireball, which means you would input down+forward kick, then immediately move the stick to down forward, forward, and press punch.

Some moves are cancelable and some are not; refer to each individual game for details."

The problem with SRK, and from the sounds of it the problem you run into, is that a given game's section is primarily intended for people who have the fighting genre basics down, and are transitioning into that game, rather than starting with it. It's likely why you had trouble finding cancel in the KOF section, as cancel is a general term for the genre. There's a section just for players who want to learn general basics, but from what I know, it uses Street Fighter as the base, so it can be a bit confusing starting with a different game. It's why I prefer Dustloop, which unfortunately doesn't help you since it focuses primarily on Aksys-developed games, and doesn't have a section for KOF, although it does have a basic glossary explanation for general fighting game terms.

On topic, looking forward to this, as I actually DO play Blazblue for the plot. Seems most of the stages in the trailer are new, which makes sense since all the characters are traveling to Ikaruga, and no longer in Kagutsuchi. The three new characters all look like fun, especially Bullet and Azrael, although the fact that Bullet has a 1080 distortion drive scares me.

So that gives them an excuse to harass and berate a newcomer?

The problem is that this is a community that lives off of this attitude. Take a look at Aris' comments and look at the number of people saying he's right.

Also, his apology and SRK's were not real apologies. They weren't sorry it happened, they were sorry they got caught and called out on it.

 

[Bakodo]

So that gives them an excuse to harass and berate a newcomer?

When did I ever say it did? Please don't put words in my mouth.

The point I was making was explaining why you weren't finding cancel in the KOF section (nothing to do with the community), and the problem with SRK's layout (once again, nothing to do with the community). Is SRK a bad community? Like I said earlier, I use Dustloop, so I wouldn't be able to judge. I was simply commenting on your example of searching for cancels, which, by the way, is an example of improper site design, and has no bearing on the quality (or lack thereof) of a given community. And since it seemed, by searching for the word cancel, you were curious about it, I tried to point out some definitions for it. I wasn't going anywhere near your argument about the community, since once again, I'm not active at SRK.

I only commented on your example, and not your point, so please don't put words in my mouth and act as if I'm arguing against your point. Just because someone disagrees with an example does not automatically mean they disagree with the larger point behind the example.

 

[RaikuFA]

So that gives them an excuse to harass and berate a newcomer?

When did I ever say it did? Please don't put words in my mouth.

The point I was making was explaining why you weren't finding cancel in the KOF section (nothing to do with the community), and the problem with SRK's layout (once again, nothing to do with the community). Is SRK a bad community? Like I said earlier, I use Dustloop, so I wouldn't be able to judge. I was simply commenting on your example of searching for cancels, which, by the way, is an example of improper site design, and has no bearing on the quality (or lack thereof) of a given community. And since it seemed, by searching for the word cancel, you were curious about it, I tried to point out some definitions for it. I wasn't going anywhere near your argument about the community, since once again, I'm not active at SRK.

I only commented on your example, and not your point, so please don't put words in my mouth and act as if I'm arguing against your point. Just because someone disagrees with an example does not automatically mean they disagree with the larger point behind the example.

Sorry, I'm still pissed at the FGC for thinking their actions are justifiable.

 

[Zio_IV]

Well, lets see, I just searched cancel in srk and no results relating to KoF13.

And I doubt it was just a bad day since it was a span a week or so.

Well, from the sound of things, there is nothing any of us can say to convince you that the FGC isn't as bad as you think it is. And you know what? That's totally fine. You're not the only person to share this view, and you certainly won't be the last. But just because you were treated that way doesn't mean that everyone is like that.

For example, I can't share any of your sentiment simply because I've never encountered this animosity you claim to have received. I've been in Dustloop for over two years, I show up to minors on the west coast every month (when I can), and I play extensively on netplay, and I've never once been treated like I don't belong. You had a bad experience. That sucks, it really does. I wish things would've gone differently for you so we could have gotten another FG enthusiast in the mix. But that doesn't mean that's the reality of the FGC. It's one facet of it, yes, but not the majority of it, let alone what it's all about.

OT: So much hype for the new design (although I'm curious how Noel got Bolverk back). Can't wait for the arcade release in winter.

 

[Bakodo]

Sorry, I'm still pissed at the FGC for thinking their actions are justifiable.

Fair enough, and no offense taken. I had horrible experiences with the community for League of Legends when I played in beta, and walked away from it until a few months ago, so I know where you're coming from. If you're still interested in the games themselves, I'd encourage you to try other sites and other sections of the community to see if you can find some people to play with who are less toxic than the ones you've encountered so far, but if you're not interested, I don't really blame you.

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

You know what though?

If there is someone being a prick to someone else SMT related, they get called out on it and shunned. When the FGC does it, they get praised and revered.

Ha. The people you personally interact with do not represent the whole.

I suppose it's nice that you haven't run into the sort of people I used to on a regular basis, but don't act like any fanbase, of anything, it a bastion of decency everywhere, because where there is something people like, there are people willing to be a huge fucking dick about it. And they never travel alone.

I don't know about you but I'm not going to like a community that encourages bullying.

See first sentence. I know my share of fighting game enthusiasts, and neither of them "bully" anyone. One of them was on a live streamed tournament, and even when he won, he stopped being excited for himself long enough to extend a hand to shake the other guy's, whether the other guy actually shook it or not. There are more than enough dicks everywhere, as I've mentioned, but just because they're the most vocal doesn't mean they're all there is.

And honestly, they're just people on the internet, so you shouldn't give two shits what they think if they're just going to be pricks anyway.

 

[Black Reaper]

You know what though?

If there is someone being a prick to someone else SMT related, they get called out on it and shunned. When the FGC does it, they get praised and revered.

Ha. The people you personally interact with do not represent the whole.

I suppose it's nice that you haven't run into the sort of people I used to on a regular basis, but don't act like any fanbase, of anything, it a bastion of decency everywhere, because where there is something people like, there are people willing to be a huge fucking dick about it. And they never travel alone.

I don't know about you but I'm not going to like a community that encourages bullying.

See first sentence. I know my share of fighting game enthusiasts, and neither of them "bully" anyone. One of them was on a live streamed tournament, and even when he won, he stopped being excited for himself long enough to extend a hand to shake the other guy's, whether the other guy actually shook it or not. There are more than enough dicks everywhere, as I've mentioned, but just because they're the most vocal doesn't mean they're all there is.

And honestly, they're just people on the internet, so you shouldn't give two shits what they think if they're just going to be pricks anyway.

I think you wanted to reply to RaikuFA there

 

[RaikuFA]

Just took a look at this: http://www.toptiertactics.com/5847/the-real-reason-e-sports-cant-go-mainstream-anytime-soon/

Agree 100% with this part:

When low-tier players jump into forums or onto streams and talk about the game, sure they?re misinformed. But if proponents of e-sports and competitive gaming want their hobby to become slightly more publicly acceptable than pissing in grandma?s garden in broad daylight, they?re going to have to play nice with the newbies. Think about the rest of the world for a minute. Ever go to a sports bar on Super Bowl Sunday, or sit around talking football with your cousins at a barbeque? Ten dollars says conversations like this don?t pop up very fucking often:
?Did you see that pass? Manning is amazing! I can?t believe that play isn?t more popular at the 40.?
?Dude, shut the fuck up. Have you ever played football competitively? Even in the minor leagues? I bet you didn?t even play on the high school team.?
?What does that have to do with anyth-?
?Yeah I didn?t think so, you fuckin scrub.?

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

I think you wanted to reply to RaikuFA there

I surely did. Formatting failure on my part; sorry about that.

Honestly though, probably better off not bothering anyway.

 

[RaikuFA]

I think you wanted to reply to RaikuFA there

I surely did. Formatting failure on my part; sorry about that.

Honestly though, probably better off not bothering anyway.

Yeah I got it. Was a bit confused about some parts you said.

 

[Zefar]

Can we get an official PC release too?, we only have Calamity Trigger and I liked it a lot D:

Doubt it, they released Calamity Trigger on GFWL with VERY little advertisement and probably didn't make that much money out of it.

If they had gone Steam + GFWL it would have sold better. The crowd that hate GFWL are few but loud people. But the people who visit GFWL store are most likely even less. I just don't see how they can not have put it on Steam already. Do they want it to die on the PC market?

It was actually hard to tell when the game came out too. I wanted Continium Shift as well but it never saw a PC port what I can recall. Which is a pity.

No one plays fighters for the story, they play them to make sure newcomers aren't allowed near their "sacred land"

Actually I liked the story in BlazBlue quite a bit and wanted to know what happened with most characters. What I would want more is a full jRPG style game with action type combat in the world of BlazBlue.
Street Fighter series might not have a good story but BlazBlue does. So does Guilty Gear XX series which are also fun to play through for the story.

I didn't bother to play it online either. I did play vs my friends or brother but that's about it.