Blizzard reveals Real Money Auction House Fees

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Nimcha

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It was my understanding this game is mostly singeplayer right? If so, I don't see much problem with this since buying stuff doesn't give you a competitive advantage against players who don't (like in an F2P MMO).
 

Baldr

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Did they totally do away with listing fees? or the proposed: free up until the 11th concurrent listing, then it costs?

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From the looks of it no listing fee, but only 10 concurrent auctions at a time.
 

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Nimcha said:
It was my understanding this game is mostly singeplayer right? If so, I don't see much problem with this since buying stuff doesn't give you a competitive advantage against players who don't (like in an F2P MMO).
Well, judging from the past (I haven't bothered checking out any D3 information), I can assume that you would need the best items you can get to make your character as effective as possible. In D2 the character builds were very dependent on equipment. Some more, some less, it ranges from around "I need this stuff to pack a significant punch" through "I need this for my build to be effective" to "I cannot play without these trinkets". There are builds based around unique items. As in, they function only barely without them. And an ineffective build is 1. not fun 2. maybe impossible to play (at higher levels).

In Oblivion you need some character optimisation to be effective (less so in higher levels). In Diablo, you need character optimisation to be effective at all.
 

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I think it's probably more than people were expecting, people will still just trade outside the auction house for the chance to make more profit. The only people who end up suffering for it will be people who actually wanted to just have a nice LAN game to play.
 

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Awesome. So now I can make a side-job of dicking around in Diablo 3. Hurrah for capitalism!
 

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Saviordd1 said:
Meanwhile at Blizzard Headquarters....



I mean really? Not even giving a fuck now Blizzard? Just saying "Fuck it, as long as we make money who cares?"
It's... their product and they can do what they want with it?

If you don't like it you don't have to partake.
 

M-E-D The Poet

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I don't see how nobody is able to read here that it says that you can actually earn money by playing the game.

Or its late and I just read that wrong.
 

Joseph Alexander

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Rack said:
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Ahhhh and Blizzard makes it's next great move in the battle to prove that they are still the undisputed champions in screwing over their fanbase. The contender, EA, is like the short scrappy fighter, landing many blows in a short period of time. Blizzard is like the heavyweight, slower to come out with such bullshit, but when they do it's a big punch. :p
How is this feature screwing over people!?
You can buy the gear with in-game currancy.
You can still get the gear by killing the boss yourself (and with a bit of luck)

It just gives people that want the easy way out, a chance to do so. At the risk of losing money.

It's ALL OPTIONAL!
3) Play single player only. Put up with lag, the inability to pause or mod the game for absolutely no benefit. Occasionally need to grind the everliving fuck out of the game to proceed.
if your playing alone(using the beta as proof here) you can pause, and i had next to no lag even while running a stream and downloading a FTP game on steam.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Blizzard makes another Diablo game, and takes the opportunity to design all sorts of evil stuff into the game? It's like... so meta, man.
like how in Civil War Marvel's editors saying "tony is right" meanwhile all the writers and fans are backin' the captain.
 

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Ranorak said:
RJ 17 said:
Ahhhh and Blizzard makes it's next great move in the battle to prove that they are still the undisputed champions in screwing over their fanbase. The contender, EA, is like the short scrappy fighter, landing many blows in a short period of time. Blizzard is like the heavyweight, slower to come out with such bullshit, but when they do it's a big punch. :p
How is this feature screwing over people!?
You can buy the gear with in-game currancy.
You can still get the gear by killing the boss yourself (and with a bit of luck)

It just gives people that want the easy way out, a chance to do so. At the risk of losing money.

It's ALL OPTIONAL!
Its screwing people over because blizzard would be taking a pretty decent chunk of someone elses work. While doing no extra work themselves themselves. All they are doing is streamlining a process that had been done 3rd party successfully for years.

And so what if its optional? So, because something is optional.......you can't complain about it? I'll wager if I asked you 20 questions, I could prove you are a hypocrite.
 

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I'm not sure how I feel about this.

While it seems like a good business decision given the huge volume of $ that will change hands in the RMAH, I am more fearful about how the rest of the industry is going to copy this and inevitably turn it into a disaster.

I mean, we've been living with WoW clones for the last decade... I really hope this isn't the next big thing.

Less juicing the customers for every cent they have and more making games that are innovative and worth the price. I haven't seen enough of D3 to determine if it is going to be guilty of the former, or if it will fall under the latter.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
So...the reason I can't play Diablo 3 offline is so Blizzard can have the auction house, which I won't use, in order to make more money for themselves without doing any additional work.

Yeah...fuck that.
I think you hit the nail on the head, good sir. I was thinking the same thing. Didn't have a whole lot of interest in Diablo 3 in the first place, but this certainly didn't add any appeal.
 

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M-E-D The Poet said:
I don't see how nobody is able to read here that it says that you can actually earn money by playing the game.

Or its late and I just read that wrong.
Have you seen the economy of games that have this sort of economy? Its not pretty.
The game usually settles down to a dollar being more or less four hours of in-game work, and the only people who benefit of being able to trade at all are the people who are willing to shell out real money.
Anyone who manages to turn any sort of profit through the game are playing to the point where its nothing but a below minimum wage job. Its not even like Second Life where you are either making art or interacting with real people.

Let's not kid ourselves about the "its optional" thing. Because even if you try to ignore the RMAH, most people are probably still going to be nagged by thinking about what to do with their equipment because wasting money hurts, especially for those who just dropped $60 or however much it is on the game. And when does worrying about money ever make a dark fantasy adventure better?
 

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Saviordd1 said:
Meanwhile at Blizzard Headquarters....



I mean really? Not even giving a fuck now Blizzard? Just saying "Fuck it, as long as we make money who cares?"
At least it's better than outlawing trading virtual goods for real money anyway.
 

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samaugsch said:
Saviordd1 said:
Meanwhile at Blizzard Headquarters....



I mean really? Not even giving a fuck now Blizzard? Just saying "Fuck it, as long as we make money who cares?"
At least it's better than outlawing trading virtual goods for real money anyway.
It was against the rules if not from day 1, but for a looooooooooooooooooong time in D2. Its also against the rules in WoW. And in lots of MMOs. Lot of good that does huh?
 

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girzwald said:
samaugsch said:
Saviordd1 said:
Meanwhile at Blizzard Headquarters....



I mean really? Not even giving a fuck now Blizzard? Just saying "Fuck it, as long as we make money who cares?"
At least it's better than outlawing trading virtual goods for real money anyway.
It was against the rules if not from day 1, but for a looooooooooooooooooong time in D2. Its also against the rules in WoW. And in lots of MMOs. Lot of good that does huh?
Oh. For some reason, I was thinking this was occuring in WoW auctions. Guess that's what I get for not paying attention to the article. -_-
 

Clive Howlitzer

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Good thing I am not buying anything related to Blizzard or I might be slightly concerned. They lost me as a customer at Starcraft 2.
 

Zeh Don

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Why do people care at this point? Everything about Diablo reeks of the taint of World of Warcraft. This isn't an MMO - and yet, now it is. Micro-transactions and all.

Joseph Alexander said:
...and i had next to no lag even while running a stream and downloading a FTP game on steam.
So, if it works for you, fuck everyone else?
They should employ you at Blizzard - you'd fit right in.