Blood Bowl 2

[BloatedGuppy]

Welp, gave it a go after browsing the tutorial, won my first 2 games in a campaign as the dwarves...wasn't easy, but it was much more fun than the first time I played it.

Glad you had fun. Dwarves are actually a pretty challenging team for a new player. Their lack of mobility and reliance on Guard to effectively compete against bashy teams makes them something of an uphill struggle in the early going.

The easiest teams for new players are probably Orcs and Humans. Norse and Amazon perform well in the early going but level out pretty quick.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

I played the first game a bit, and I can definitely see the appeal, but I found the UI kind of clunky.

Having little familiarity with the tabletop game, it took a while before I got the hang of it. I think this is mostly because my initial thought was to play it like a sports game, but when you get down to it, it's really a strategy game wrapped in a sports package. Once I kind of got that and realized how much you had to pay attention to special characteristics of your players, I began to get better.

Even still, I never got THAT good, because it just wasn't something that really compelled me to put a ton of time into it. So for right now I think I'm good just getting my butt kicked by the AI. I'm intrigued by BB2, I'll wait for the reviews to see if I pick it up.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Welp, gave it a go after browsing the tutorial, won my first 2 games in a campaign as the dwarves...wasn't easy, but it was much more fun than the first time I played it.

Glad you had fun. Dwarves are actually a pretty challenging team for a new player. Their lack of mobility and reliance on Guard to effectively compete against bashy teams makes them something of an uphill struggle in the early going.

The easiest teams for new players are probably Orcs and Humans. Norse and Amazon perform well in the early going but level out pretty quick.

I remember a couple years ago when I first played the game I tried the high elves (I like throwing, so figured i'd give it a go) and got obliterated that way, so I said fuck that and went for the complete opposite this time. lol probably explains why both games scores were 1-0...

however in the second game I took my runner and hid him in the corner just outside the endzone before the game got over, there were 3 turns left and I figured I should "run out the clock" rather than give the orc team the ball back since half of their team was injured or knocked on their asses currently, which worked to my advantage (I think?).

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I remember a couple years ago when I first played the game I tried the high elves (I like throwing, so figured i'd give it a go) and got obliterated that way, so I said fuck that and went for the complete opposite this time. lol probably explains why both games scores were 1-0...

however in the second game I took my runner and hid him in the corner just outside the endzone before the game got over, there were 3 turns left and I figured I should "run out the clock" rather than give the orc team the ball back since half of their team was injured or knocked on their asses currently, which worked to my advantage (I think?).

Yeah Elves and Dwarves are kind of distaff counterparts. All Elf teams play an offensively explosive game and rely on dodge and other high agility tricks. It's often beneficial as an elf team to have as few players in tackle zones at the end of a turn as possible, to prevent bashy teams from hauling you to the pitch and breaking your AV7 heads. Dwarves are super high armor, so they're almost impossible to knock out of the game. Once they have their cage set up they just march inexorably down the field. Where Dwarves start to run into trouble is against super mobile teams that can stretch them out defensively, or against high strength bashy teams like Orcs or Chaos who can overpower the smaller Dwarves. Chaos in particular, since they get a lot of armor break.

Your strategy of parking near the end zone and dragging out a few turns is pretty common with slow/bashy teams. I used to do that with my Chaos teams a lot. Park myself in scoring position and then spend 2-3 turns trying to inflict maximum carnage before running it in. I had one game where 5 turns in my opponent was down to 4 players.

 

[CannibalCorpses]

Welp, gave it a go after browsing the tutorial, won my first 2 games in a campaign as the dwarves...wasn't easy, but it was much more fun than the first time I played it.

Glad you had fun. Dwarves are actually a pretty challenging team for a new player. Their lack of mobility and reliance on Guard to effectively compete against bashy teams makes them something of an uphill struggle in the early going.

The easiest teams for new players are probably Orcs and Humans. Norse and Amazon perform well in the early going but level out pretty quick.

You have got to be joking...dwarves are by far the easiest early team to play. You literally get an extra 1 out of 6 chance on every roll to have a positive outcome and after a few level-ups they become much harder. You only need speed with the other teams because they die so frequently leaving gaps in your line...the dwarves almost never go down and with a deathroller you've got something to take anything on.

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1. I play it quite frequently since i got hooked on it in 1992 and have played lots of teams and lots of tournaments. Blood Bowl 2 im dubious about...it will be little more than a graphics update and a few tweaks to problems that never got sorted before.

2. Multiplayer is often a terrible thing with Blood Bowl, especially when a good team can die so quickly for no good reason other than chance. It goes both ways but losing 3 months worth of team because of bad luck is pretty shitty.

3. Nope, i'll stick to playing against the computer who wont cry at me or threaten me for beating it

 

[kris40k]

Dwarves are super high armor, so they're almost impossible to knock out of the game. Once they have their cage set up they just march inexorably down the field. Where Dwarves start to run into trouble is against super mobile teams that can stretch them out defensively...

As a Skaven player, I never really liked playing against Dwarves due to the strength of their cage and my speed advantage makes of a bit of a boring game. Once I get the ball, I'm gone, there is pretty much no catching my rats. Similarly, once the stunties had their cage set up, I might as well just back out of the way and let them walk it in. No way I was breaking through it.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Definitely tempted. Love me a good sports game and while I'm not the biggest connoisseur of the ol' handegg, Blood Bowl seems like a nice spin on things.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

You have got to be joking...dwarves are by far the easiest early team to play. You literally get an extra 1 out of 6 chance on every roll to have a positive outcome and after a few level-ups they become much harder. You only need speed with the other teams because they die so frequently leaving gaps in your line...the dwarves almost never go down and with a deathroller you've got something to take anything on.

For a new player? I disagree. They're extremely dependent on proper positioning, their level 1 roster is uninspiring, they lack mobility and exceptional positionals, and the Deathroller is a tricky unit to employ correctly.

I had a Skaven vs Dwarf game this weekend. Guy's team was about 300 points above mine in team value and I was considering just conceding off the hop because it's such an ugly matchup if he's got a lot of tackle. There was a pitch invasion off the kick-off and I ended up scoring off the hole in his line. He spent the rest of the first half chasing me around fruitlessly, got his Deathroller ejected on a meaningless knockdown, and conceded halfway through the second when he rolled double skulls trying to 5 man my Rat Ogre.

They're not exactly an advanced tactics team like Vampires or Ogres or something ridiculous like that, but compared to vanilla staples like Orcs, Humans or Undead it's pretty easy to fuck up with Dwarves.

As a Skaven player, I never really liked playing against Dwarves due to the strength of their cage and my speed advantage makes of a bit of a boring game. Once I get the ball, I'm gone, there is pretty much no catching my rats. Similarly, once the stunties had their cage set up, I might as well just back out of the way and let them walk it in. No way I was breaking through it.

Totally understand, I generally prefer bashy teams but I had a long campaign with Dark Elves once and Dwarves were easily my 2nd most hated matchup (behind the eternally noxious Khemri).

 

[Rebel_Raven]

I've been wanting to get in on blood bowl a while. Know little about it. Hoping they have the amazon team.

 

[Frankster]

1)Yeah I indulge in a little blood bowling when mood gets me. I'm looking forward to BB2, if only for the expanded story mode. My favorite team is Orcs, get in there and smash some heads! Win by kicking the enemy to death! Waaagh!

If for some crazy reason violence isn't enough to win you the match, then time to rely on the sneaky gobbos!

2)I'd have to think about it, not usually a fan of multi at the best of times when it's not coop. God only knows why I still play moba games, especially as it only feeds my multiplayer anxiety.

3)Not at this time but I wish you the best of luck for it. I'll be one of the cheerleaders for the time being

I've been wanting to get in on blood bowl a while. Know little about it. Hoping they have the amazon team.

They do! Well BB1 has, dunno about BB2 yet but would be surprised if amazon team were amongst the starting roster in the sequel, they will inevitably come in one of the expansions.

Anyways if you're new to the series picking up the complete edition of BB1 would be a good intro, not least because they have pretty much all the teams which BB2 won't have for a long time.

 

[Mikeybb]

I've been wanting to get in on blood bowl a while. Know little about it. Hoping they have the amazon team.

Well, I know they had them in the previous edition.
By all accounts they were lightly armoured, but when it came down to it they knew how to deliver the goods.

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I'll stop posting now.

 

[Windcaler]

Ive played blood bowl a whole lot. Usually a game or two every couple of months. I havnt played Blood bowl 2 (or looked at it since the original release announcements) but it has kind of turned me off of it because it feels like a base game that intends to release DLC after DLC after DLC till they nickel and dime us to the point of the game being incomplete without purchasing everything. Its basicly the same feeling I got from Evolve and look how that turned out.

I just want a full game without stuff cut off for DLC but so far I dont think blood bowl 2 is going to follow that business model

 

[Politrukk]

It looks like they're churning out a cheaper smaller sequel that doesn't add much and only subtracts.

A definite no from me.

 

[kris40k]

If anything, we could get a Blood Bowl Escapist User Group set up, and perhaps support both BB2 players getting organized now, as well as BB1 players that are holding out for the GOTY/sales/etc. but want to get something going in the meantime.

Anyone feeling motivated?

 

[sonofliber]

You mean one of the best games ever? why yes, i do play it, while i havent play it a lot online, i do remember one of my first matches versus an undead team, i manage to kill his star player by taking him out of the field (he got killed by the crowd), poor guy coudnt belive it, it was his best player and had been with him since the beginning, good times

i have preorder blood bowl 2 but for the ps4 since my pc runned the beta with lag

 

[rodneyy]

Ive played blood bowl a whole lot. Usually a game or two every couple of months. I havnt played Blood bowl 2 (or looked at it since the original release announcements) but it has kind of turned me off of it because it feels like a base game that intends to release DLC after DLC after DLC till they nickel and dime us to the point of the game being incomplete without purchasing everything. Its basicly the same feeling I got from Evolve and look how that turned out.

I just want a full game without stuff cut off for DLC but so far I dont think blood bowl 2 is going to follow that business model

i wouldnt say the game has been chopped up in the way most games do dlc. apparently it would have taken another year or something and doubled the production cost of the game to do all the teams at once. so its not so much they made it then took pieces off to sell seperatly as they made the whole base game and a few starting teams and will let the rest of the teams out in drips and drabs when they are ready.

tbh its preaty similar to the way they did BB1 just instead of calling it dlc back then they just released a new edition every now and then that was the same as the last one but with a few new teams in it. i think there were 4 different versions in the end.

it might even work out better at some point down the line when prices drop you could get the base game on the cheep then buy 1 or 2 teams you like. of course at this point they have not said too much about how it will all work but as bad as some dlc practise's can be i could see this one being a more logical one that does not leave you at a disadvantage. sure you cant play as a team but you should be able to play against it in league play. it feels a bit more like the board game, buy the base game with board, rules dice etc and then when you want to play with other teams go and buy them one at a time. if you they were going for that authentic boardgame experience then its oddly accurate.

as for myself not got it yet was planning to wait and see how the beta went let people play it a bit and see if any major bad points pop up. maybe get it on steam then not play it so can get refund if needed. see how they do in the first few weeks of it being live.

so far it doesnt seem to be doing all that badly a few gripes people are having of minor changes to the rule set and not really knowing if something is a bugged stat or intended (for some reason they have taken out pass block, odd stuff like that). a few flawed UI decisions but generally better than in bb1.
my main concern seems to be the game not letting you choose when to or when not to use many optional skills. maybe it was an attempt to speed up the game times so you are not spammed with a bunch of queries every turn, but some of them are very important to the tactical side of the game. better to throw an inaccurate pass when you got 3 guys bearing down on your thrower and not enough backup to stop them than reroll it get a fumble and give away an easy td, or elect to not use side step and get a sneeky chain push to expose the ball carrier or crowd surf someone.

 

[Cette]

Grabbed it on preorder fors the access to the multiplayer beta and free Lizardmen day 1.

Turned out pretty disappointing as only 4 of the launch teams are even in the beta. After managing to console myself that Necromantic and Nurgle weren't going to be available for the foreseeable future I'd managed to psych myself up for a regular chaos team. Turns out being blue balled on that was the order of the day.