BNP to appear on Question Time at BBC - Antifacists break into building

[ablac]

Ever strike you as though nick griffin is only on due to the MASSIVE viewing figures coming with this. Also if anything this will lower support he is just some racist fuck who read mein kampf (sorry if mispelt)at thirteen and never took into account it was the ravings of a madman.If they really want to stop him just vote against him the next election.

 

[Bretty]

The BNP isnt the problem here.

The fact that people thought that the BNP spoke for them is the problem. Let the BNP speak to diffuse the bubble that they have any idea how to actually lead a nation. We all know their policies on immigration, but what else?

They are a 1 solution party and that will make them never get in power. Tonight will show this.

But there is an immigration issue in the UK, my Grand Dad will tell me as much as he can how screwed up things have become and that he is just a tiny minority in what used to be an almost 100% BRITISH neighborhood.

I hope to watch the debate online and hope that the audience is split between immigrants and nationals.

 

[bad rider]

Its sad to see honest people fighting against political freedom.

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

I think the protesters are all idiots, they are supporting the very thing they are against through trying to deny someone the freedom of speech, even if that speech is stupid, ignorant and racist.

Oh and yes I will be watching Question Time to watch the BNP's stupid policies get ripped to shreds when facing rational questions.

Amen brother you speak the thruth!

 

[Pingieking]

i don;t understand what all the fuss is about. the freedom of speech is the freedom of speech and everyone no matter how crazy deserves the chance to speak. I mean when the KKK guys get a chance to speak on TV in America no one goes crazy and storms the studios. This whole storming the studio thing is just going to work against the protesters and make them look like bad guys and push forward this mans goals.

I think the fuss isn't really about the freedom of speech, but the possible freedom of letting anybody have access to mass media. The first freedom is a gaurantee, but the second is something that I'm not overly comfortable with, knowing that humans are creatures of emotions more so than logic. Any idea, no matter how crazy/illogical/disgusting/immoral, is capable of becoming mainstream if its frontman is charasmatic enough and has access to mass media.

Edit: Forgot to make the second point. Yes, I totally agree that those protesters are morons, who have a strange resemblence to those PETA and anti-abortion people. Do those "anti-fascists" not see the irony and hypocracy that reeks out of themselves?

 

[benylor]

Its sad to see honest people fighting against politiccal freedom.

Indeed. No matter how odious the enemy, it ends up boiling down to censorship.

Some things deserve to be censored, but Voltaire was right when he said "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it". Well, it was probably more like "Je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce que vous avez à dire, mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort votre droit de le dire" on account of him being French, or possibly it might have been in Latin, but the point still stands. It's a hallmark of enlightened society, for better or worse, to allow any viewpoint to be discussed.

Let them express their views, but tolerate their bullshit not. They can say what they like, sure... We can say what we like back, remember

 

[Terramax]

It's on too late for me to watch, but I'd really like to see it. Can anyone here tape it for me?

I think the protesters are all idiots, they are supporting the very thing they are against through trying to deny someone the freedom of speech, even if that speech is stupid, ignorant and racist.

I agree. And the public are more aware of the BNP's presence because of protestors being on the news in near-violent protests against them. Had they been grown up and ignored the party they'd still be just another obscure radical group no-one took seriously.

 

[Raven's Nest]

The only reason they should be allowed to be broadcasted on national TV is because it's the only way for mainstream media to display integrity.

We know political scandals are warped by tabloid journalism, I'd like to think the BBC can infact remain neutral in simply broadcasting the news.

To say that we shouldn't allow something to be broadcasted because "we or the current political party don't want to hear it or be heard" is an assault against democracy and free speech. Values that the BBC ought to hold higher than it's dispostion towards the subject in question.

I can't wait to see that arsehole's points torn to shreds in front of the biggest audience he'll ever get. For every person that watches it and agree's with him, he'll have tens of thousands more to oppose him. Frankly I think he's digging his own grave.

 

[bad rider]

It's on too late for me to watch, but I'd really like to see it. Can anyone here tape it for me?

I think the protesters are all idiots, they are supporting the very thing they are against through trying to deny someone the freedom of speech, even if that speech is stupid, ignorant and racist.

I agree. And the public are more aware of the BNP's presence because of protestors being on the news in near-violent protests against them. Had they been grown up and ignored the party they'd still be just another obscure radical group no-one took seriously.

Watch it on the bbc iplayer.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

To me, if I chose to build a party based on the idea that all religious people should be made to wear a hat at all time, catholics bowler hats, muslims fedoras, etc, and Question Time thought it'd make amusing TV to let me on to show just how nuts I am, then where's the problem?

I'll be truly shocked if Griffin isn't utterly destroyed by this debate, considering how hard QT can be on regular politicians without anything to hide.

I get the feeling the people protesting are thinking he's going to get on Question Time and just get to stand there going 'We want all darkies out, who's with me?' and the panel and audience are going to give him a standing ovation. He's not going to get an easy ride, I'm sure of it.

 

[Terramax]

Watch it on the bbc iplayer.

Cool, thanks, I will do.

 

[scotth266]

I most certainly will be watching. Those protesters are idiots though. Aparently freedom of speech means nothing to those people, and by aiming their hatred at the BNp they practically give the BNP the right to act like a victim in all of this. Disgusting.

Exactly. They complain about the program giving the BNP credibility, while in fact THEY have given the BNP some measure of credibility by attempting to silence them. The irony is delicious.

I won't be watching, namely because I don't get British programming. I think. I forget, to be honest. It'll be on the Net anyway.

 

[Steelfists]

I might watch it if it is available. maybe on iPlayer.

But, what's wrong with Fascists? nothing wrong with Fascists.
It's just that these one's are extremely racist and such. gives Fascists a bad name.
the poor Duce would turn in his grave...

I'm definately watching.

And i couldnt agree more. the bnp are a stain on the arse of fascism. Proper fascism such as that demonstrated in italy works and is beneficial

Yes, it worked excellently. Italy couldn't defeat the effing Ethiopians... The concept of the individual abolished in Italy. 250,000 Italian soldiers were captured by 30,000 British soldiers. Italy was ravaged by war. Mussolini got hung by an angry population.

I'll keep democracy, thanks. At least when we invade an African country we can fuck it up properly.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

I'll keep democracy, thanks. At least when we invade an African country we can fuck it up properly.

Colonialist superpowers were democracies now?

 

[HarryNotLarry]

While am a big supporter of free speech, I find this whole exercise a bit sensationalist and pointless. Nick Griffin is a Nazi, plain and simple. He can't argue your way out of that.

 

[Spaghetti]

I'm hoping to watch it, assuming there is some way of watching it in America. I miss the BBC :-(

Returning to the subject, I kind of have mixed feelings about the protesting. Yes they're attempting to restrict freedom of speech, which is a bad thing, but they are protesting against something evil. At least we know that people are actively hating the BNP.
It's like Edmund Burke said:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

I think the BBC has done the right thing though. The only way to defeat the BNP is through reasoned debate. By kicking and screaming, you're almost sinking to their level of unreasonable nonsense.

Either way, good luck to the panelists, I hope they tear Griffin a new one

 

[Squarez]

I respect the BBCs commitment to freedom of speech in all forms, so in Nick Griffins case expressing his freedom of speech, people can see what an ignorant moronic twat he is.

All these protesters are cunts, and forget that freedom of speech isnt equivalent to pick n mix. Its all or nothing.

I wont be watching though, as I have better things to do than see real intelligent politicians (who are dicks) engaging ignorant and stupid "politicians"/bigots (who are twice as much dicks).

Once more though, against those protesters, its clear the expression "you always become the thing you hate the most" is a fact. Seeing those pricks try to enforce their views like facists makes me sick. Whats the matter, you think the majority are too weak willed and stupid, and will see the BNP on tv and automatically vote for them? Grow up you ignorant, politically correct cunts.

Being anti-nazi =/= Being a "politically correct ****"

By the way, protesting against someone going on TV is not denying freedom of speech, Nick Griffin can say what he wants, but it's not a right to be put on a panel, with a microphone in front of million's of people.

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

Good on the protesters.

Not to say everything they do is justified, but it's a damn good sign that people are against them this much.

 

[ugeine]

By the way, protesting against someone going on TV is not denying freedom of speech, Nick Griffin can say what he wants, but it's not a right to be put on a panel, with a microphone in front of million's of people.

Especially one which is publicly financed and has direct anti racism legislation.

 

[ben---neb]

I don't agree with the BNP but boy do I love the fact that they can stand up there and proclaim their views to the country without any fear of censorship or reprisal.

Freedom is an absolute, either you have in its entirity of you do not. Freedom of speech should be granted to all even if their views are horrid, short sighted and inhuman.