Get Secret Armory of General Knoxx. It's what the endgame for Borderlands should have been. And convince your friends to buy it and play it with you.
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Yeah, but unfortunately it's not much more exciting, either. On my playthrough 2.5, it was 4-5 levels above me (or something like that, it's been a while) and I knew how to fight it but ran out of ammo on nearly all my guns since he had so much health and only had my 2-shot revolver with regenerating ammo left to fight him with. What is kind of an annoying fight the first time turned into a 80 minute war of attrition.Ruiner87 said:
though the ending gets expanded on in some of the dlc BTW, but yes that was pretty anticlamactic
though what bothered me more was that none of the characters (especially roland who is very much stated to be a military man) never seem to think to disassemble and reassemble the various instruments of killing they acquire along the way so that they could take that 5x scope off that 20 round shotty with horrid accuracy and put it on something that could use it
though what bothered me more was that none of the characters (especially roland who is very much stated to be a military man) never seem to think to disassemble and reassemble the various instruments of killing they acquire along the way so that they could take that 5x scope off that 20 round shotty with horrid accuracy and put it on something that could use it
The ending is indeed antuclimatic, I admit that. While borderlands plot may not be great, the story (the charrtecers, the details of what the world was like before the cretures came is evident in the evnorement, it shows story through gameplay.)
The dlcs, Knox especially has a much more entertaining plot.
The dlcs, Knox especially has a much more entertaining plot.
I bought and sold Borderlands three separate times. I'd always buy it, get caught up in the gameplay for a few weeks, then get bored, and sell it only to buy it again a few months later.
Next game they should:
-Let you create your own character since the ones you can pick are pretty much two-dimensional cardboard cutouts
-Fix the weapon system so that I'm not picking up the same gun a thousand times just with a different paint scheme
-Make the towns more, I don't know, alive?
Next game they should:
-Let you create your own character since the ones you can pick are pretty much two-dimensional cardboard cutouts
-Fix the weapon system so that I'm not picking up the same gun a thousand times just with a different paint scheme
-Make the towns more, I don't know, alive?
Go through Playthrough 2 quickly and load up Secret Armory of General Knoxx.
I'm not kidding, do it, now.
For all the crappy missions and terrible story that the normal game had, General Knoxx made up for it.
I'm willing to say it was more fun than the original game.
And it's even more fun on Playthough 2.
I'm not kidding, do it, now.
For all the crappy missions and terrible story that the normal game had, General Knoxx made up for it.
I'm willing to say it was more fun than the original game.
And it's even more fun on Playthough 2.
I had a lot of fun with borderlands although the ending was awful its a lot of fun to play with a couple mates. The DLCs were brilliant
I agreed completely about the story. I was like what? That can't be it. I actually thought something else was going to happen afterwards. Am I the only one who still has no idea who the weird lady in your head is who talks to you all through the game? Who are you lady? Why do you care about me?
I bought this game a long time ago though, for more money and i was still happy. The gameplay was damn fun and it lasted a long time. I don't regret the purchase. But yeah, it seemed like they threw the "story" in just to have one. This thing isn't gonna be winning any writing awards.
The story is this: You are a vault hunter, you search for the vault. Eventually you find it. THE END.
Edit: see this is why i rarely buy DLC. its gonna cost another $40 full price (cant buy it at the sale price just now) to buy all the DLC for this game. That means in the end I will have spent almost $90 on ONE game. With awesome gameplay mind you, but a crappy story. How bad do i want to extend borderlands? I'll have to think harder about it.
/rant
I bought this game a long time ago though, for more money and i was still happy. The gameplay was damn fun and it lasted a long time. I don't regret the purchase. But yeah, it seemed like they threw the "story" in just to have one. This thing isn't gonna be winning any writing awards.
The story is this: You are a vault hunter, you search for the vault. Eventually you find it. THE END.
I don't have any of the DLC, thanks for the tip. Imma buy this.DarthRiko said:
Edit: see this is why i rarely buy DLC. its gonna cost another $40 full price (cant buy it at the sale price just now) to buy all the DLC for this game. That means in the end I will have spent almost $90 on ONE game. With awesome gameplay mind you, but a crappy story. How bad do i want to extend borderlands? I'll have to think harder about it.
/rant
Really, what did you expect to find in a vault on the planet pandora, cookies?
Pandora's box ring a bell?
EDIT: The blue chick talking to you is the AI on the Hyperion 4N931 satellite you see orbiting Pandora at the end. - Since this seemed to be unclear for someone
There's actually quite some story to it, if you bother to pay attention. I played trough the game 5 times, and am half way trough my 6th, so I kinda found most of the back story hints, but every now and then I find something new
anyway, try playing it and ONLY doing the story missions until you get to the vault and then going back for the side missions. You'll be horribly underleveled by the time you get to the trash coast, and the game will be pretty damn challenging.
Also try the underdome DLC if you're up to just kill stuff until it overwhelms you...
Pandora's box ring a bell?
EDIT: The blue chick talking to you is the AI on the Hyperion 4N931 satellite you see orbiting Pandora at the end. - Since this seemed to be unclear for someone
There's actually quite some story to it, if you bother to pay attention. I played trough the game 5 times, and am half way trough my 6th, so I kinda found most of the back story hints, but every now and then I find something new
anyway, try playing it and ONLY doing the story missions until you get to the vault and then going back for the side missions. You'll be horribly underleveled by the time you get to the trash coast, and the game will be pretty damn challenging.
Also try the underdome DLC if you're up to just kill stuff until it overwhelms you...
Don't get Mad Moxxi's Underdrome. If story really is so important that you are willing to overlook golden gameplay, then it simply isn't for you. That should save you some money.
But the real question is: why does the story bother you so much? Its clearly just an excuse to go and play the game, which you have said you enjoy. Why not just take it at face value, enjoy all the crazy shooting, and be happy?
But the real question is: why does the story bother you so much? Its clearly just an excuse to go and play the game, which you have said you enjoy. Why not just take it at face value, enjoy all the crazy shooting, and be happy?
Borderlands, IMO, did some things right. The story was not one of them...
One of my big complaints though is the Weapons. Yes, with all the part available, there is a metric fuck-ton of possible weapons, problem was is that you get the same fucking weapons. Also, the fact that money had no use except for respawning after dying.
What I would fix?
- Make money actually valuable; This can be done by making harder to come-by in the wild.
- Larger selection of guns; Like I said earlier, with all the combinations, you end up seeing the same guns constantly, with only slight (and largely unimportant) differences. Simply mess with the randomization algorithm so it produces more than just 5 or six different guns all the time.
- Add some character... or maybe just characters; You gave us four unique PCs, with obvious history, yet didnt capitalize on it. Add some character specific missions to flush out the each PC's back story.
Thats just some... I could come up with others, but that would make this post longer, and would start entering into the realm of catering the game to me and me alone.
One of my big complaints though is the Weapons. Yes, with all the part available, there is a metric fuck-ton of possible weapons, problem was is that you get the same fucking weapons. Also, the fact that money had no use except for respawning after dying.
What I would fix?
- Make money actually valuable; This can be done by making harder to come-by in the wild.
- Larger selection of guns; Like I said earlier, with all the combinations, you end up seeing the same guns constantly, with only slight (and largely unimportant) differences. Simply mess with the randomization algorithm so it produces more than just 5 or six different guns all the time.
- Add some character... or maybe just characters; You gave us four unique PCs, with obvious history, yet didnt capitalize on it. Add some character specific missions to flush out the each PC's back story.
- Larger and possibly more effective skill trees; the skill trees were basically stat boosts for each character and specific weapons. Kinda boring, but considering its a FPSRPG, im not sure how one would go improving what Borderlands did (haven't played too many FPSRPGs myself. One thing you must do however, is make the tree larger, or have less skill points, as I did the math a while back, there is three skill tree branches, with 7 skills each, and each skill having 5 levels; so thats 7x5 or 35 skill points per tree, for a total of 105 skill points to max everything. You get 1 skill point per level, starting at 5, giving you 46 skill points total (this is without DLC) there are several more skill points and levels with DLC, but the trees stay the same size. Im not sure right now, but you could possibly max one branch, and almost max a second. Okay, this point is larger than intended.
Thats just some... I could come up with others, but that would make this post longer, and would start entering into the realm of catering the game to me and me alone.
I loved it, but that ending? Felt like a kick in the you know wheres.
I co-op'd with my friend and then my husband to properly hear/witness their reactions. It was a lot more fun those times.
The DLC was fantastic though, I feel like they realised what was lacking in the main "story" and pulled off great DLC's.
I co-op'd with my friend and then my husband to properly hear/witness their reactions. It was a lot more fun those times.
The DLC was fantastic though, I feel like they realised what was lacking in the main "story" and pulled off great DLC's.
Before I give my opinion on Borderlands I should state a few things
1) This is my opinion. Not an attempt at trolling.
2) Expressing you opinion, especially when asked (not personally but generally in this case) is not trolling.
3) Having a different opinion then you doesn't automatically make me a troll.
Ask you've probably guessed from my disclaimer I didn't like this game. It wasn't terrible, just very mediocre. The combat mechanics were indeed tight. But any thing less is just unacceptable now days any way. I've never been much of a fan of cell shaded graphics. But why make every thing brown, yellow, and orange? The whole game just looked ugly.
Co-op is only slightly better. Because human interaction makes most games better. But it just felt unnecessary. I do have to give (the 360 version) credit for having same couch multiplayer. Something that's almost dead in gaming. But I really with I'd have bought something else instead. After beating it once and getting about half way through in co-op I just felt no joy in playing it. It felt like a job. An endless grind to find slightly better weapons to kill slightly more difficult monsters in areas that look slightly different from one another.
My favorite part of the game was toward the end when the sand and rock gives way to snow. Because OMG A NEW COLOR! And I have to agree with OP, the ending is anti-climactic and disappointing. Especially in a game that expects you to play it more then once.
I didn't bother with the DLC because why? I saw some of the screen shot and it just looks like more desert and trash.
Oh, spoiler, there is a D2 reference. In the form of a pun. Hurp Derp.
1) This is my opinion. Not an attempt at trolling.
2) Expressing you opinion, especially when asked (not personally but generally in this case) is not trolling.
3) Having a different opinion then you doesn't automatically make me a troll.
Ask you've probably guessed from my disclaimer I didn't like this game. It wasn't terrible, just very mediocre. The combat mechanics were indeed tight. But any thing less is just unacceptable now days any way. I've never been much of a fan of cell shaded graphics. But why make every thing brown, yellow, and orange? The whole game just looked ugly.
Co-op is only slightly better. Because human interaction makes most games better. But it just felt unnecessary. I do have to give (the 360 version) credit for having same couch multiplayer. Something that's almost dead in gaming. But I really with I'd have bought something else instead. After beating it once and getting about half way through in co-op I just felt no joy in playing it. It felt like a job. An endless grind to find slightly better weapons to kill slightly more difficult monsters in areas that look slightly different from one another.
My favorite part of the game was toward the end when the sand and rock gives way to snow. Because OMG A NEW COLOR! And I have to agree with OP, the ending is anti-climactic and disappointing. Especially in a game that expects you to play it more then once.
I didn't bother with the DLC because why? I saw some of the screen shot and it just looks like more desert and trash.
Oh, spoiler, there is a D2 reference. In the form of a pun. Hurp Derp.
I thought the combat was shoddy, the weapons were uninteresting, the story was god-awful, the quests were mundane, most of the game was spent grinding and the stylized visuals were wasted on environments that consisted only of desert wastelands, scrapyard villages, and military compounds.
It was a mess of bad decisions, and I blame Gearbox.
It was a mess of bad decisions, and I blame Gearbox.
You know, except for one DLC taking place entirely in a forest, and another DLC taking place in 3 arenas consisting of every terrain in the game (desert, mountain, snow, compound, foest).BlazedWithPower said:
Ironically, the third DLC also takes place in a desert, but it's the most fun of any of the DLCs or the original game.
The fourth DLC is more desert and bland, yeah.
for the first game in a possible series, it's not bad, they now know what to improve on and work with, really my only complaint is that i leveled up too fast.
I actually hated the third DLC, just driving around in the car but it has that final boss that drops the best weapons so it kind of compensates. Also the final missions of that DLC are quite fun but overall it was meh. Still worth the price though.DarthRiko said: