Boycott Microsoft

[Canadamus Prime]

Nice speech, however...

Organised Boycotts just don't work.

Most gamers don't have the will power for that. They may talk a good game, but it'll only last until the next Call of Duty or whatever comes out and then the whole thing goes out the window. I know there are already gamers out there who are going to buy the damn thing despite it screwing it's customers up the ass because it's got some exclusive that they like. Way to see the big picture guys.

Technically true but given how easy it is to just buy a different system this one might be easier to swallow. From the sounds of things there's already going to be a pretty hefty unofficial boycott of xbox one. Personally, I've never bought an xbox so I'm already ahead of the game.

Did I mention the blindly devoted sheep who'll throw away their consumer rights for a few shallow exclusives? I'm pretty sure I did.

 

[Snotnarok]

Yes, boycot Microsoft. Go PC gaming, where you will game on a... Microsoft machine.

They don't control any DRM on windows, they don't get any licensing fees, they make no profit on games sold on PC unless bought through the Games for Windows Live service.

OT: It's not going to happen, people are going to buy it anyway, they will ***** they will whine then they will cave because a game they liked is on it. Then boycott will turn to "It's not so bad...Actually it's neat that I can share games across Xbox's with friends"

The XBone isn't going to be the next 3DO, it may come in dead last but it'll still sell.

I have no interest after many 360 failures and my general hatred of DRM, so there was no plan to buy this even prior to their hilarious plans for DRM

 

[TallanKhan]

I was a dual console user this generation (PS3 and 360) as I felt both had some decent exclusives. I was always more favorable towards the PS3 (mainly because PSN is free) but had intended to buy both consoles this generation. No more. Microsoft have lost my business for this generation at least.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Yes, boycot Microsoft. Go PC gaming, where you will game on a... Microsoft machine.

Linux, that is all. And no, do not think of it at the Windows killer, as the people who think so are kidding themselves into thinking that Linux is some sort of Windows competitor. It's not, but it's a viable alternative.

How is linux a viable operating system when it's obscure to over half of the population? It's nearly impossible to boycott something that's almost mandatory for day to day lives. I will be boycotting their system to let them know that I'm no longer a consumer in their gaming products.

Citation please.

I'm being very picky here I know, but this is something from which I need the numbers to back you up. This is not directed at anyone in particular, but I find it hard to believe that half the IT population doesn't know Linux.

Or was it the European population? Doubt it, as some (quite possibly more) countries there are running Linux...

That's one problem; no descriptive modifiers were given. Half of which population, again?

Also; I said viable alternative. My original post also elaborates on the fact that I cannot fully run away from MS as my parents are resilient to change and for some games that I don't want to mess around in Wine too much for. I've been able to do it, but my laziness prevents me from doing so all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
http://www.zdnet.com/latest-os-share-data-shows-windows-still-dominating-in-pcs-7000013351/

My original post also elaborates on the fact that I cannot fully run away from MS as my parents are resilient to change and for some games that I don't want to mess around in Wine too much for. I've been able to do it, but my laziness prevents me from doing so all the time.

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So yeah, good luck boycotting their OS. I can't because my grades are dependent on it.

 

[thesilentman]

Yes, boycot Microsoft. Go PC gaming, where you will game on a... Microsoft machine.

Linux, that is all. And no, do not think of it at the Windows killer, as the people who think so are kidding themselves into thinking that Linux is some sort of Windows competitor. It's not, but it's a viable alternative.

How is linux a viable operating system when it's obscure to over half of the population? It's nearly impossible to boycott something that's almost mandatory for day to day lives. I will be boycotting their system to let them know that I'm no longer a consumer in their gaming products.

Citation please.

I'm being very picky here I know, but this is something from which I need the numbers to back you up. This is not directed at anyone in particular, but I find it hard to believe that half the IT population doesn't know Linux.

Or was it the European population? Doubt it, as some (quite possibly more) countries there are running Linux...

That's one problem; no descriptive modifiers were given. Half of which population, again?

Also; I said viable alternative. My original post also elaborates on the fact that I cannot fully run away from MS as my parents are resilient to change and for some games that I don't want to mess around in Wine too much for. I've been able to do it, but my laziness prevents me from doing so all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
http://www.zdnet.com/latest-os-share-data-shows-windows-still-dominating-in-pcs-7000013351/

My original post also elaborates on the fact that I cannot fully run away from MS as my parents are resilient to change and for some games that I don't want to mess around in Wine too much for. I've been able to do it, but my laziness prevents me from doing so all the time.

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So yeah, good luck boycotting their OS. I can't because my grades are dependent on it.

Problem with stats like those is that they don't consider dual boot scenarios. Hell, there's no proper way to figure out the true market share of Linux as there's no licenses for the majority of the distros (Windows uses licenses, as we all know) or tied to specific hardware and only that hardware (Apple has this approach, once again common knowledge).

The closest we've gotten is the Humble Bundles, which is still skewed as the Linux users still pay more on average than Mac and Windows. If anything, Humble Bundles show that there is a market for games on Linux, but no one's ready to keep asking for it in the industry today.

I do sympathize with you on being tied to MS products though. For a full year, I could only use .docx for my papers. I've gotten around that as of late by saving it as a .doc though, so I can start slowly moving away from Windows. My main issue is more the culture in which Windows thrives more than anything else, with it being first in the market and having a massive case of vendor lock-in. :-/

 

[Not Lord Atkin]

I genuinely and truly do not want to see Microsoft stay in the console business anymore

I think this sentence says it all. Microsoft should either come to its senses or abandon the console market. I don't think anyone here wants it to go out of business in general, the OT only seems to imply wanting them out of console manufacturing business.

In other words, please, just leave your PC and Windows arguments be.


In all seriousness, while I think that Microsoft may be going a bit too far with this, a flat out boycott is not necessary in this case. The public opinion is already at its all-time low, people just aren't going to buy the bloody thing, boycott or not. You don't need to organise them into not buying shit they weren't going to buy in the first place.

 

[neppakyo]

I think the point is just to boycott the xbone. Windows 7 is still a good OS, windows 8 is a piece of shit.

 

[EstrogenicMuscle]

Linux, that is all.

I played my Steam library on an Ubuntu partition the other day. Every PC of mine has an Ubuntu partition. No, Ubuntu isn't for tr00 Linux enthusiasts. But I don't know what I'm doing, so it doesn't matter. Neither are most people who use an OS. Ubuntu is free as in free beer. So there is no reason not to install it. And among the easiest and most user friendly to use.

I had a good time playing a good game of Cave Story+, Shatter, Spirits, and a few others. But the Linux library is still incredibly tiny. And Wine is still incredibly flawed, to the point I can't even play Recettear without hassle.

I support Linux, but it has a long way to go. I'm kind of hoping that Valve tries to pour money into it. Because if so, it finally might get the kind of power behind it that it needs to take on Microsoft. Microsoft is a billion dollar industry off of Microsoft, so if someone can give them a proper competitor, they have a massive market.

Google also did okay with Android, though Android and Chrome OS are no alternative to Windows. And Android is definitely a very closed system. But with enough work, it would also be possible for Google to give us a Linux alternative. Perhaps Valve and Google could work together on an OS to take down Microsoft?

Either way, in the meantime, sorry. I'm definitely not buying and XBOX One. But I'm going to keep buying copies of Windows 7. There's no adequate replacement right now for someone like me who continues to build computers out of old and new parts. Linux is nice but it just isn't as good for gaming. Especially if you have the level of know-how that I do.

I just want an operating system to sit down and play a game of Touhou or even The Last Remnant with.

 

[Entitled]

Having less indie developers is somehow a downside? They are low budget for a reason, there is nothing to miss about cheap games. If you are so interested in these cheap games, you need not look further than basic crap game sites like miniclip.

In this generation Minecraft alone on the Xbox 360 sold more than any Gears of War, on PC+Xbox360 sold more than any Halo, and on all platform, sold more than any Call of Duty.

Microsoft's reply to this, is that they want to make sure that at least they secure the last generation's Minecraft on the Xbone, while throwing out every other indie developer, including the ones who will inevitably make next generation's Minecraft equivalent, then they can start playing catch-up months after the hype.

Missing out on all of this generation's Braids, Journeys, Dear Esthers, World of Goos, and Mark of the Ninjas, isn't something that they could afford, even if these wouldn't be wildly successful products on their own, the "classy" reputation that they bring certainly moves lots of hardware sales.

 

[Evil Smurf]

Sorry, I'm sticking to Microsoft, and sticking to Windows on my computer, Apple Macs don't support SLI. Plus I don't like paying extra for my hardware to be encased in aluminium.

strickly speaking a hackintosh does

I'll not buy buying a console anyway, I'm sticking with my MacBook Pro (running OSX, android, Ubuntu 12.10 and Windows 7)

 

[geizr]

There's no need for a boycott. Just don't buy the damn thing. Really is that simple. Microsoft will either learn from its mistake and change, or its Xbox division will die in flames (Microsoft, as a whole, is way too large and stable a company for something like this to take it down, but it still won't be too happy about it; also, fire Balmer).

 

[Zenn3k]

If it wasn't for State of Decay, and State of Decay alone, I'd have already cancelled my Live subscription.

 

[PotatoLord]

The problem is that blanket boycotts don't work. They send the wrong message to the company. If sales drop across the board, they won't be able to figure out what exactly caused it. Sure, there's this boycott that started over the Xbox One, but that couldn't possibly account for all of these lost sales on Windows 8, could it? No, what we need to do is boycott the product that we are unsatisfied with. Boycott the Xbox One diligently. Do not buy one, do not encourage others to buy one, do not buy games for it, even for friends. If Microsoft sees a disproportionately large loss of profits from the Xbox One, then they will know that's where they done fucked up.

So, if anything, we should boycott the Xbox One. You know, the console that we already weren't going to buy.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Remember when we boycotted Mass Effect?

Remember when we boycotted Modern Warfare 2?

Remember when we boycotted Left4Dead2?

Remember when we boycotted Battlefield 3?

Remember what a dismal failure every single boycott was? Because the market adapts to the very few people who boycotted? Because most of the boycotters had no teeth and got the game anyway because oh I hate what they're doing, but I NEEED IT I NEED IT.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Remember when we boycotted Mass Effect?

Remember when we boycotted Modern Warfare 2?

Remember when we boycotted Left4Dead2?

Remember when we boycotted Battlefield 3?

Remember what a dismal failure every single boycott was? Because the market adapts to the very few people who boycotted? Because most of the boycotters had no teeth and got the game anyway because oh I hate what they're doing, but I NEEED IT I NEED IT.

The Boycott against windows ME by techs worked fine. It Depends on how bad something is broken. Microsoft forced the military and many companies to boycott the xbone already due to their design.