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Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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I was 20 when I found my first and current girlfriend. It mattered to me a lot. I was starting to think that I'll never experience a romantic relationship and it was really depressing.

If you want to experience youth, then you have to go out. Even if you don't particularly like that. You don't have to go to a party filled with obnoxious extroverts. Just find some people you're comfortable spending time with. It will make it easier. Experiencing youth and life in general means having to sometime do things that you don't want in order to get what you want in the long run. It's difficult at first because you lack experience, but you have to work to get what you want. And more often than not, working for something requires stepping outside of your comfort zone. You don't want to grow old and look back at what you didn't do because it was outside of your comfort zone at the time. Old people always preach about regrets and missed opportunities for a reason.
 

Yuno Gasai

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I seriously don't believe that having your first kiss, getting a first date or losing your virginity is as important as you're thinking it is right now - but I also understand why you would feel and think that way.

In a way, I almost envy you - you haven't experienced either of those things yet, so you get to choose who to share them with for the first time. That's something which is really great. I admire you for holding out for so long, because I was one of the girls who kind of rushed into everything. While I don't exactly regret the decisions I made when I was younger, part of me mourns not holding out for a little bit longer for someone who treated me better.

You could easily gather some dating experience, though. As other Escapists have said in this very thread, there's always online dating? It's actually a pretty excellent way to dip your toes into the dating scene. You can browse profiles of people you might like, get to know them a little online, then figure out if you'd like to actually meet them. Obviously, with online dating you do need to be a bit careful - tell people where you're going, always choose a public place, maybe ask for recent pictures before you meet, etc, - but ultimately I think it's worth it.

Focus on yourself for the time being. Do things that make you happy. Someone who's right for you will come along eventually, and chances are that they'll be worth the wait. ^.^
 

INF1NIT3 D00M

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Well, since everyone else is sharing...
I met a girl I cared about when I was 15. I liked other girls before her, but none of them ever felt the same way about me. Even if they did, I just liked their faces. You know, just like "Hey, she's pretty. I wish I could kiss her or go to the Big School Dance with her..."

I ended up dating this girl for the next four years, 'til we left high school and moved on to college. She wasn't my first kiss, or my first date. She was my first real Girlfriend, my first sexual partner, and the first person I could honestly say I loved. It was good, bad, and everything in between. But it's not "forever and always" like everyone always says. We broke up earlier this year. Life's never been better. I'm happier than I've been in years, she was happy(ish) when we met up to get closure, it worked out for everyone this way. Life began when our relationship ended. I learned from it, so I'd definitely recommend the OP experience it someday, but don't buy into the lie that First Love is your only love.

-Your first kiss shouldn't be your only kiss, don't cling so tightly to it. You likely won't remember it like your first sexual experience.
-You should definitely experience sex before marriage, but only with someone you care about, safely, and not just to do it.
-Again, First Love is not your only love. You probably won't understand until you figure it out on your own.
-Don't ever, EVER try to last "forever". It doesn't happen. You'll make yourself crazy. You'll do "romantic" things you'll regret later. Stuff like you see in romance movies, which is actually creepy in real life. You'll beg and bend over backwards for something that isn't fun even if you get what you want, and embarrasses you if you fail.
-DO NOT STRESS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. You're no more or less of a complete person for having another. Let it happen if/when it happens, passively pursue social contact with the opposite gender. Don't play people, and don't consider yourself a player. Nobody likes a player. Just go and hang out with people you like, whoever that may be. You're most likely to meet someone you care about that way.
-Remember that there is no shame in flying solo, unless you take that shame upon yourself. Own your relationship status, and focus on cultivating your Self. You'll likely become far more attractive that way. People like others who are motivated, passionate, and well-rounded. By taking your focus off of dating and putting into Fencing or Music, whatever you're interested in, you're giving yourself personality traits that many people admire. Looks aren't the only thing that's important. Nothing is worse than taking a pretty person on a date and realizing that they have no interests, hobbies, or opinions. Again, it's one of those things you'll just have to realize on your own.
-Don't get so caught up in the philosophical questions of who you are and what your actions make of you. You're a fool. You're going to die. Half of all people will find a reason to hate you over one decision or another, and an equal number of people will respect or relate to you. Archetypes break down on an individual scale, so don't worry which one you are. An archetype will never do you justice. Just do what makes you happy, what feels right, and watch as the narrative of your life gets real interesting, real quick.
-Go make stories. Good ones, bad ones, everything in between. Go places you wouldn't normally go. Try new things, from food to activities to music. Ditch the fear that you might make a fool out of yourself. What you want are stories to tell around the campfire, stuff for any situation. Bad relationships/dates? Don't worry, other people have had them too. You can swap horror stories and it'll be a grand old time. Did something dumb? Perfect, now you have a story for when everyone gathers around and tries to trump one another. Every story has a chance of being the Best Time, and then you'll have a story for that contest as well. Life of the party, that can be you if you just take some chances and leave the house once in a while. My suggestion is to set up a regular day with some friends, and then just go do something. Big, small, it's up to you. Something New is what you're after.

Most important Tip:
Don't shame people. Live by the golden rule. Don't allow yourself to feel shame about what you have or have not done. Do what you can to experience things, and don't sweat what you don't get around to. Everyone's got a different criterion for success. Do right by yours, and you're just fine. I know it sounds generic, but that's because people have known this stuff and attempted to convey it to others for thousands of years. After a while, it becomes so much noise. Just attempt to really take these tips in. Whoever you are, you can benefit from a chill pill. You have way less agency over love and fate and such than you think. There are no real secrets to influencing things, just let it go. Doing so actually seems to have the greatest positive effect on such matters.

EDIT: Do NOT do online dating. Not because of the people on there, it's not about your experience, none of those reasons. I'm telling you I don't think it's a good idea because everything about it puts you in the wrong mindset. You're not there to meet people, you're not there to have a good time. You may think you are, but that's not where you are or what you're doing. You're at a meat market for soulmates. You're shopping for a partner. It doesn't work well that way, at least not often. Certain people of a specific personality type(s) flourish in this environment, I'd be willing to bet cash money that it's not you because the odds are in my favor. Many times, it's differing expectations. You find people on Match.com looking to have sex with you with no strings attached. You find people on Fling.com looking for soulmates. You find 10 billion people you're not interested in, and maybe a handful of people who are interesting but unavailable. Partners that are right for you are like waldo in a puzzle the size of the Chrysler building. I can't say you'll *never* find them, but you'd have better luck and a better experience just taking it easy. Instead, allow yourself to be open to other people. Go with friends, meet new friends through them, meet new people through those new friends, and so on. Talk to strangers, and be open and kind to people you don't know. It can be hard to break those barriers, but the effort is more likely to pay off. Also, pretty much every dating website takes advantage of human tendencies in order to make the whole process less efficient and more profitable. Things like free accounts, but you can only message users if you pay to upgrade. Each website has it's own form of restrictions, if there isn't a pay-gate at the outset. So you're paying the money in order to search endlessly for your prince or princess in a sea of people you couldn't care less about. And if you're anything like me, you'll obsess over every message, over every new candidate, even over the lack of messages, and you'll drive yourself into an early grave with all the stress.
 

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24 here. Never kissed a girl, still a virgin. Don't really care but I do feel lonely sometimes. I think that I get out enough but I just don't know how to get conversations started.
 

EmperorZoltan

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OP: 24 is a great age to get started dating. I'm curious, is there any particular reason you've yet to be in a relationship? Active choice, lack of opportunity, shyness, super high standards? I'm not judging, but it's important to understand more about you before providing any kind of advice. What works for one person does not necessarily work for another, and some context would assist.

Before we get into anything like that, you should know there's nothing wrong with waiting till after your teenage years to experience relationships. You don't need to feel pressured or ashamed at being a little older before experiencing it, and there's no magic switch that flicks when it happens that changes who you are. You're the same person before and after, and putting it on a pedistal isn't the right way to look at it.
 

A BigCup of Tea

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Dismal purple said:
I am 24 years old. My cousins around my age are married and have children by now. But I have never had a boyfriend or had my first kiss (if that was ever important) yet. I have never met someone I like, or someone who like me.

I used to not care about this because I think doing it as a teenager is rushed, but now that I am 24 I am starting to feel the pressure. Even if I don't expect to find the one yet I wish I had at least some experience with dating. Maybe I'm rushing but it feels like I am living the life of a retired old lady sometimes, I never "go out" or anything. I want to experience youth.

I'm just wondering if anyone here have ideas or insights about people who didn't lose their virginity as a teenager. When did you get your first boyfriend/girlfriend? Did it matter to you when it happened?

captcha: groundhog day. I've been getting that one a lot lately.
hey i'm looking for a girlfriend wanna go out? ahh i kid i kid, i've been single for six years and honestly i'm not bothered by it, i mean yeah if i meet someone that would be cool if not...meh. Take things at your own pace, if you do meet someone take it slow and get to know them first, i have a friend who just rushes in and gets deep real quick (as in been together two days and already saying the L word!) if you want anymore advice or just want to chat about something you're uncertain of don't hesitate to message me i'd be more than happy to help
 

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21 Now. I don't really mind talking about these things so here goes.
I had my first serious girlfriend when I was 15, yes 15, We we were together till I was almost 21.

Stuff happens, we broke up but we're great friends and get together sometimes.

Backtrack 3 months, I was dating another girl, she wasn't the one, waaaaaaaay too egocentric, she only thought about herself and beh.. I need support too, I couldn't be the one giving all the time.

So yep, back to square one, not really that stressed out anymore, I came to accept that I'll eventually meet someone who will appreciate me.

What I'm trying to say is, 24 is still young, just get out more and try to open up a little.

Cheers
 

Dismal purple

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Remember the movie Back to the Future when Marty's mother told his sister to not chase after boys and just wait for it to happen? And then after the hero's little time adventure she had changed her mind? That's how I want to think about this. Unless I make some kind of active choice it probably won't happen.

Abomination said:
Are you much of a looker?
lol
Probably not.

Blood Brain Barrier said:
Have you considered that what you're feeling now is influenced by cultural factors and not truly "who you are"?
Absolutely. But there is also the notion that there is just something wrong with me. I can be pretty closed off to other people and I have had to work with that problem this year. And I got out with two new friends that I wouldn't have had otherwise.

EmperorZoltan said:
OP: 24 is a great age to get started dating. I'm curious, is there any particular reason you've yet to be in a relationship? Active choice, lack of opportunity, shyness, super high standards? I'm not judging, but it's important to understand more about you before providing any kind of advice. What works for one person does not necessarily work for another, and some context would assist.

Before we get into anything like that, you should know there's nothing wrong with waiting till after your teenage years to experience relationships. You don't need to feel pressured or ashamed at being a little older before experiencing it, and there's no magic switch that flicks when it happens that changes who you are. You're the same person before and after, and putting it on a pedistal isn't the right way to look at it.
Thanks.

Shyness, lack of opportunity. Some personal issues that I don't want to talk about that in this thread.
 

AidoZonkey

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Im 19 and only been on dates, again never done anything else and never kissed, but its nothing to worry about. I went though what you are feeling fairly recently, and I was really down about it. I struggled to understand why I couldn't find someone, but in the end, you just have to hold in there and think that there's gonna be at least someone out there. My eldest brother is 28 and he still hasn't found anyone but my other brother met someone and got married right out of uni. Its not a case of age, its just meeting someone at the right time.

Also don't rush, if you not into someone don't force yourself, its only gonna make you unhappy. I've known a few people who have done that and it only ended badly.

You also have a lot of confidence posting this kind of thread. It takes real guts doing something like this. I should know i did one like this in July. You could use this confidence to your advantage. Put your self out there the same way you made this thread
 

BarkBarker

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Meh, 19 and never met someone I genuinely believed was worth pursuing a relationship beyond a friend, and even then I'm picky, I don't want "kind of" friends in my life, it's a waste of my time, nor do I want "kind of" relationships of ANY kind, I find myself surrounded by what appears to be most of the shit that falls through filter and ends up all clumped together, and I'm not gonna alter my principles to get something I find no value in UNLESS those principles are kept.
 

Drummodino

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Dismal purple said:
Shyness, lack of opportunity. Some personal issues that I don't want to talk about that in this thread.
I'm in a semi-similar situation. I'm a shy, 20 year old hetero male with some baggage and I've never had a girlfriend. I had my first kiss at 17 with an exchange student and from there had several one night stands and one fuck buddy in my first year of university. Haven't had sex since I was 18 though.

Honestly I do want a relationship but I don't think I'm mentally ready for one. Looking back at that brief period of promiscuity, I definitely lacked the emotional maturity for it. I think I'm in a better place now but I still don't think it would work out. My advice would be to not rush into sex and drunken hookups. They aren't great and just lead to waking up with a pounding head and a feeling of self-disgust. I've been much happier since I've figured that out.

I'll conclude by saying just stay positive. Don't go looking for guys, but don't ignore them either. Hopefully that will work out for the both of us :)
 

Madgamer13

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28 years old here, I've kissed a few times but it has never amounted to anything. I never even felt anything when kissing, although the circumstances were always oppressive. I've never actually had sex, which for various reasons was a very good thing when taking the circumstances of my past into account.

I've been told that I'm a fairly handsome man, which tends to drag the attention of the ladies. The frequency of these women appearing in my life is usually one per year, which ends up turning into a project. Sometimes these women are merely seeking to treat me like a counsellor and they use their sexuality force me to listen to them, which I really wish they'd stop trying to do.

In more the more rarer, dire situations, a woman I'd run into would be seriously damaged psychologically, even to the point of being unable to control their own sexuality properly.

This is why I call meeting these types of women projects. The majority of the time I am able to encourage disconnection, but in some cases I get women who make a mistake in their approach, who then try their damn hardest to get me under their thumb.

I have always reacted really badly to manipulation and I really, really dislike women who will use their sexuality against me, which happens to form as a weakness for me, due to my inexperience with such relationships. I've always been an isolationist type and like to keep to myself, so unfortunately my experiences with women have reinforced my will to remain isolated.

I do hope that whatever type of woman is meant for me can find a way past my misgivings and provide for me the warmth of such a relationship, but I simply see too many women of the type that I dislike to bother trying. Maybe I am in the wrong area, maybe I'm actually an unlikable person at my core, but I choose not to underestimate the target I have the tendency to become, I can only ask that women interested in me heed my own wishes. Pity they never do.

Maybe things will change in the future, maybe they wont, I do know that I am right at the moment though, but I am unsure how.
 

Mister K

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Dismal Purple, my dearest lady! Please be calm about your situation. It is the only sphere of human interests and interactions, where everyone truly IS special.
I've known people that started having intimate relationship when they were 26. I knew others, who had it's beginning during tender age of 15. It all depends on you.
Do not rush anything, but also be not affraid of being the one to initiate a relationship. If you like someone, then ask him out to SIMPLY watch a movie, or have a cup of tea. A few talks, and you'll know this person better, and who knows where it will all lead. Never force it,however, because such things are supposed to happen naturally, easy.

To sum it up, do not rush and show a bit of initiative.
 

Strazdas

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Ill be your boyfriend.
Ok seriuosly though this isnt the end of the world. im a 24 year old male who has never dated in his life (let alone anything further) and i still live. thing is, do you want to do it? if you want and cant find one - now thats a problem. if you dont, then i dont see a problem there. and just ignore the pressures, you control your own life, not your parents or peers.
 

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You know with all these lonely & looking people, does the Escapist need it's own dating section? Or would that be an absolutely horrible idea?

Anyway OT. Don't rush or try to force any relationship, that crap never works. Hell I'll be 30 in a couple of weeks, I can't remember my first kiss & sex isn't really that big of a deal, it's fun, but no biggie.

Remember you don't have to be with someone to have fun, you can still have plenty of fun being single, maybe more.
 
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Dismal purple said:
I am 24 years old. My cousins around my age are married and have children by now. But I have never had a boyfriend or had my first kiss (if that was ever important) yet. I have never met someone I like, or someone who like me.

I used to not care about this because I think doing it as a teenager is rushed, but now that I am 24 I am starting to feel the pressure. Even if I don't expect to find the one yet I wish I had at least some experience with dating. Maybe I'm rushing but it feels like I am living the life of a retired old lady sometimes, I never "go out" or anything. I want to experience youth.

I'm just wondering if anyone here have ideas or insights about people who didn't lose their virginity as a teenager. When did you get your first boyfriend/girlfriend? Did it matter to you when it happened?

captcha: groundhog day. I've been getting that one a lot lately.
Hmm, in the last year and a half I've had a lot of experiences directly relevant to your situation.

When I was your age I was in the very same boat, except for being a man seeking a woman. No girlfriend, no kisses (except for that one girl at a party during which everyone was getting falling-down drunk), no one even interested or interesting. I also had missed dating in high school mostly because I was both mature for my age and very anti-social, so everyone around me seemed juvenile and a relationship would have been a bad idea. I figured college would provide me with better opportunities.

Of course, it didn't, because after missing my chance to learn the necessary social skills when I was younger and dumber, suddenly everyone around me knew how to make friends and I had no clue. Still, I didn't let it get to me much, I've always been comfortable as a loner, my handful of male friends were all I really wanted as far as personal interaction went.

However, that feeling that I was lacking female companionship would bother me more and more frequently. I even admitted to myself that I was lonely and worried that I would never get anywhere. Then a month before I turned 25 I very suddenly had a girlfriend. My only female friend, who I didn't even spend very much time with, had liked me for a while, and I decided that I might like her too, so I gave the relationship thing a whirl. Now we've been together for a year and a half.

So, my personal half of this story went pretty well, hopefully illustrating that you really can't ever expect when and where a relationship might occur, and it's certainly never too late for one. Even if you actively avoid such situations as might bring one about, they can still happen, so the best advice is just to do what you want and be open to what can happen.

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Now, there is another thing I'd like to get into. My current roommate, one of my best friends, I've been living with for 3 years now. For the purposes of this story, I'll call him Matt. When he was 19 he found his first girlfriend, and their relationship was one of those things where they really liked each other right away and made the mistake of jumping too far into it too quickly. They broke up two or three times over the next 2 years and when they finally called it quits for good, it kinda messed Matt up.

Matt's always wanted the whole wife, kids, happy home thing. Ever since having his heart thoroughly broken by his first girlfriend, he has continued to seek female companionship, but in the last couple years, as he's become more desperate and more lonely, he's made a lot of mistakes. Too many and too personal to go into all of them, but let me tell you where it has all led him.

These days, Matt spends a lot of time on a "dating" site called OKCupid. He still claims to want to settle down with a serious girlfriend, that he wants a meaningful relationship, but the thing is, OKCupid is less a dating site than a site for cheap hookups. He's met at least half a dozen women there who were simple one-night stands, a couple others whom he dated for a week or two before deciding he didn't like them.

He's got no idea what he actually wants anymore, and the more he tries to grab at that perfect rosy future with the wife and the kids, the more dumb decisions he makes with women.

So, if you actually bothered to read this extended diatribe, I congratulate you on surviving my overlong and verbose explanation of a simple concept: relationships are best when they happen naturally. And whatever you may think, it's unlikely that you won't find one yourself, naturally, as long as you are willing to put yourself out there and just be open to it, as it seems you are. So, don't sweat it, let it come to you, and don't let your preconceptions cloud your judgement, because it won't be like what you expect. That I guarantee.
 

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I dont know.
I kind of got into the whole dating think so naturally that I dont remember how it started.
i dont think it should be a big deal or feel pressured about it if you are not interested.
But most of the times if you are out in the world and meeting enough people, men tend to approach you.
I am more concerned that maybe it is lack of exposure?
 

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Dismal purple said:
I am 24 years old. My cousins around my age are married and have children by now. But I have never had a boyfriend or had my first kiss (if that was ever important) yet. I have never met someone I like, or someone who like me.

I used to not care about this because I think doing it as a teenager is rushed, but now that I am 24 I am starting to feel the pressure. Even if I don't expect to find the one yet I wish I had at least some experience with dating. Maybe I'm rushing but it feels like I am living the life of a retired old lady sometimes, I never "go out" or anything. I want to experience youth.

I'm just wondering if anyone here have ideas or insights about people who didn't lose their virginity as a teenager. When did you get your first boyfriend/girlfriend? Did it matter to you when it happened?

captcha: groundhog day. I've been getting that one a lot lately.
It's an odd sort of day when you see someone post online your exact thoughts and feelings on the subject word for word. I'm 19 going on 20, I also havnt had a girlfriend or go through the "firsts" stage of any relationship. I never felt any connection between others that would signify me liking them or going out on a limb to pursue them (or them chasing me). I often wondered if perhaps it was just my mindset of going against what was the norm for my age (dating tons of girls, sleeping around etc).

My siblings are all much older than me, the 2nd youngest being 35 and having his kid the other day. However within an asian family, I do get a lot of pressure to go and just date anyone purely for my parents to feel i am able to/push for the last kid to get married and produce a brood.
I dont go out, i don't enjoy the social activities that are common for my age these days, and do jokingly get called the hermit or old man in the house.I game, i read books, i enjoy anime, i like to learn of all the creative and fascinating things in the world. We all want to enjoy our youth, but we like to enjoy it at our own paces dont we?

Personally, just enjoy being single. Enjoy the lifestyle that you can call your own. Dont ever force for a relationship, cause then it's not ever going to really mean anything. If the time comes you find someone with the same thoughts and feelings with you appears, then go for it. Don't feel pressured, your young :)

P.S. You owe me a coke, I knocked half my can over my desk upon reading Christmas cake :p
 

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AidoZonkey said:
You also have a lot of confidence posting this kind of thread. It takes real guts doing something like this. I should know i did one like this in July. You could use this confidence to your advantage. Put your self out there the same way you made this thread
Thanks

TheVampwizimp said:
So, if you actually bothered to read this extended diatribe, I congratulate you on surviving my overlong and verbose explanation of a simple concept: relationships are best when they happen naturally. And whatever you may think, it's unlikely that you won't find one yourself, naturally, as long as you are willing to put yourself out there and just be open to it, as it seems you are. So, don't sweat it, let it come to you, and don't let your preconceptions cloud your judgement, because it won't be like what you expect. That I guarantee.
I have a friend who is 20. In five years time he wants to be married and have children. But at the same time he asks me if I think he ever can find a girlfriend. He's had a girlfriend before but I think he needs to mature a little bit if he wants to get married, I think his expectations are too high with that time frame.

Avalon1440 said:
P.S. You owe me a coke, I knocked half my can over my desk upon reading Christmas cake :p
=D
 

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I didn't have my first kiss until I was 21. I know you'll hear this a lot, but you just have to be patient. Someone will come along. Try not to worry about it too much, either. You shouldn't measure your self-worth based on the presence or absence of another person. Despite what people say, having a boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever isn't the most important thing in the world. Do things you like to do. Enjoy life.

I'm actually kind of glad I never had a boyfriend as a teenager. I feel like I approached it from a more mature angle being 21, and I know I made well-reasoned decisions that I don't regret at all.