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emeraldrafael

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And here I thought norway and its like breeded out all those ultranationalist types.

anyway, im failing to see how WoW plays into this other than being mentioned. Though with how old this news is I dontthink this is going to be as bad as believed.
 

Versuvius

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I believe this is an appropriate little image. Even though this is a year old, now it's being re-reported the anti-gamer groups and god botherers will crawl back out of the midden.
 

Aurgelmir

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Interestingly Norwegian media have been very balanced about the parts about his gaming habbits, I mean he said SO MUCH MORE CRAP TODAY! That if videogames is what you take away from this they you are not very clever...

Just saying
 

Ickorus

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A Satanic Panda said:
It's all ok guys, I got the popcorn.



In other news I fully expect the Escapist covering the media responce to this, and a wave of "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" comments.
I still want to live on this planet, I just want that Breivik to get the fuck off.
 

The Funslinger

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overpuce said:
Rastien said:
Ugh the modern day bug bear

In no perticular order bug bears throughout history

Video games
Music
TV series
Films
Radio
Grammer phones
Theatres
Poetry
Literture

Cave drawings? i dunno i got bored but yeah everyone likes a scape goat and refuses to take the consequences for their actions
You forgot dancing, holding hands, as well as Magic the Gathering.
And Dungeons and Dragons. That was a big one!
 

Lt._nefarious

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Yeah video games totally caused this, I mean who would've ever thought that a medium that just happened to contain violent would NOT cause problems. It turns the youth today into monsters and blah blah blah I'm an old republican bible basher with no idea how the world works blah blah blah...

Ugh *Does that anime thing where the eyes go all big and dark and there is a big drop of sweat* why can't people blame his mental health, y'know, the thing that caused the tragedy?
 

geK0

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The only solution is to shut down all mediums of art, expression and communication, and prevent human contact of any kind!
 

Hero in a half shell

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xSKULLY said:
i know full well he wants to become a martyr but ill take a martyr over a extremist every day of the week, especially if that extremist is put in a place were he can influence others (prison)

also i have 0 fear of these scum bags and i will not let them pressure me into not killing them because "my friends will take revenge" i know a pacifist will probably come at me with the cycle of violence argument but you know what bring it on i will kill your buddies to because the day we fear terrorism and let terrorist's dictate our actions is the day terrorist's win.
Buckle your seatbelt, it's time for a HISTORY LESSON!

I'm from Northern Ireland. Back in 1916 there was a terrorist attack called the "Easter Rising", which happened in Dublin. Native Irish people who wanted the English out of Ireland took over a Post Office and tried to declare a Republic. The British army had a huge garrison in Dublin at the time, including warships, which joined in the fight.



The English rounded all the survivors and conspirators of it, and had a choice of what to do with them.
Now, the Easter Rising was really unpopular to the local people, and right across Ireland, because of the amount of death and destruction it caused in vain:

There was considerable hostility towards the Volunteers in some parts of the city. When occupying positions in the South Dublin Union and Jacob's factory, the rebels got involved in physical confrontations with civilians trying to prevent them from taking over the buildings. The Volunteers′ shooting and clubbing of civilians made them extremely unpopular in these localities.[93] There was outright hostility to the Volunteers from the "separation women", (so-called because they were paid "Separation Money" by the British government) who had husbands and son fighting in the British Army in World War I, and among unionists.[94] Supporters of the Irish Parliamentary Party also felt the rebellion was a betrayal of their party.[95]
(The Irish Parlimentary party was the MAJOR Republican party of the time, and they didn't even support the movement! Showing how unpopular and fringe extremist these guys were.)


Everyone thought they were dicks. No one supported their paramilitary efforts, and their actions during the rebellion actually made many people revile them. The British were in no danger of more attacks, no one supported the rebels.
So naturally the British had them all summarily executed, including a guy who was so wounded he had to be strapped to a chair in front of the firing squad. This did not go down well. This did not go down well at all. People were shocked at British brutality so much that the result was a massive boom to the number of people wanting to join Sein Fein (a fledgling, militant political organisation) and the IRA.

However, opinion dramatically shifted to the rebels' side in the next two years. Initially, this was caused by the revulsion over the summary executions of 16 leaders?some of whom, such as James Connolly, who was too weak to stand from wounds sustained in the fighting?and of other people thought complicit in the rebellion. As one observer described, "the drawn-out process of executing the leaders of the rising, it was like watching blood seep from behind a closed door."
Their support then gave those two extremist organisations the power to become the main forces behind Republicanism. Que almost 100 years of violence culminating in a 30 year all out balls-to-the-wall Civil war, that only stopped when both sides realised they couldn't murder everyone who opposed them, and that the British named 'The Troubles' because, like Tom Cruise, they can't handle the truth.

Today Northern Ireland is a mess. We're completely socially divided, there are still paramilitary groups on both sides that wield massive power and influence, and it honestly would not take much to plunge us right back in to war. If the British had not killed the leaders of the Easter Rising then virtually none of that would have happened. Sinn Fein wouldn't have gained it's influence, the IRA would have remained a small fringe group, and although there would almost certainly have still been strife over the occupation, my country would be 100 times better off and thousands of people that lost there lives in our petty land squabbles would still be alive today.

To bring this little excusion into the bloody past of the Emerald Isle to a close I will just say that This is why you don't create martyrs. If this guy is executed for his beliefs it will create sympathisers, who will then actively work to further his insane, violent cause, and this could create a chain of events that would mean 100 years from now Norway was a civil warzone. You may think I am using a bit of poetic liscence there, but that is exactly what has happened in Northern Ireland.
Martyrs are dangerous for the exact reason that due to their actions hundreds or even thousands will rise in their place. Letting a terrorist rot in prison is not letting them win, in fact it is the best way to defeat them.

How can someone create terror if no one remembers them? How can someone inspire a cause if they are forgotten about? How can someone be heroic if they are pathetic? They will be completely neutralised if we stick them in prison and forget about them. Put them on a platform, give them a voice and then execute them, and you will just have multiplied your problem exponentially.

Sorry, this was a really long post about a rather insignificant detail of your own personal opinions, but it's just something I've experienced the consequences of firsthand, so you can't blame me for getting a bit over-passionate about it.
 

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Der_SchwarzAdler said:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/19/world/europe/norway-breivik-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
It's american news, who gives the shit, much of the rest of the world has a liberated free media and doesn't pay this BS any heed.

Case in Point



As an Anglo-American I have nothing against Americans, but your news is criminally retarded.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
A Satanic Panda said:
It's all ok guys, I got the popcorn.



In other news I fully expect the Escapist covering the media responce to this, and a wave of "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" comments.
Solid effort, but where's the cold beverages?!
God, just imagine eating all that popcorn without a soda or something...

OT: Why do we always get associated with the really crazy ones?
 

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Shit storm hits the UK:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132002/Anders-Behring-Breivik-trial-Norwegian-mass-killer-played-violent-video-game-Call-Duty-16-hours-day.html

"The revelation came as Breivik described how he became a deadly marksman by honing his gun skills by playing the violent Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare computer game."
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http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=R6c&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:eek:fficial&q=breivik+game&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dbj7rP54nTTRWEMoA1Rme-kfvtgyM&ei=Q2GQT6q3HOmf0QWR_sSFAg&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQqgIwAA

As per usual alarmist and clueless reporting. Just so disappointed how many respected publications (i.e not the mail above) are reporting as fact that you can improve your skills with a real gun from playing COD. Rather than reporting what he said and calling him out for being an idiot as what he is a saying would not work. You don't need great aim when unfortunately your victims don't have much of a chance to escape or fire back.
 

General Twinkletoes

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Might have been posted already, but rock paper shotgun have a very good article on this, debunking most of the BS going around about it

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/19/breivik-testifies-about-gaming-press-ignores-the-facts/
 

ElPatron

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The Mini-14 has to be the rifle with the worst rep EVER.

It gets flak for being inaccurate and a myriad of other reasons... and now it was used by the world's mos proficient killing spree.

In Norway some journalists are convinced that the Mini-14 is the same thing as the M14 and try to convince the public that criminals have access to military weapons used in actual conflicts.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
I mean you would fit right in because you have one set view on terrorism (that is, incidentally, ridiculous)
In fact he has got it right. When you fear terrorism, they win.

It's unacceptable that a handful of outlaws are able to dictate how you live. Same thing with crime, I suppose you don't like not being able to go to anywhere without risks. Not that you like the place or anything, but it's ridiculous having crime dictating where you can or can't go.

xSKULLY said:
why should i be scared of them? they are coward who kill collage kids with assault rifles and i have nothing but contempt for them.
The term "assault rifle" implies full auto.

Sorry for the nitpicking but using the term incorrectly is exactly what some people want: making guns scary to the general population.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
You are giving Breivik way to much credit. Hes a crazy radical, not fucking Hannibal. Its not like he can control you by looking into your eyes.

When he gets into prison hes more likely to be surprised in the shower than greeted with praise.

I dont know where the hell you get your information but prison is NOT full of crazy people who want to cut people open for no reason.
You're a mess, lol.

So you believe the "prison *****" thing (it's more American than European) but you don't believe that prisons are full of neo-nazis?