Brazil Debates "Offensive" Games Ban
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This another law that will only make it worse for our small legal game market, since pirated games are already illegal and this will not make them more illegal, but you can buy it easily in the streets(and it is easier and even more socially accepted to buy pirated versions, although i'm clean from this kind of buying for more than 6 years now).
But we are near elections and our politicians start showing service....
But we are near elections and our politicians start showing service....
I mean no disrespect to the brazilian readers, but doesn't that country have _other_ things to worry about? With the gangs and the drugs and not to meantion the deforestation. Should their government really focus on banning games and jailing people for playing them?
More to the point, when will this "witch hunt" for videogames ends? And are they really all that bad, since the world was pretty screwed up way before your Average Joe got his hands on a version of Pong.
More to the point, when will this "witch hunt" for videogames ends? And are they really all that bad, since the world was pretty screwed up way before your Average Joe got his hands on a version of Pong.
Yup. It forbids the development, manufacture, distribution, trading and importation of "offensive" video games. I'm watching this bill closely. If it passes, it'll become just one more reason for emigration.Chipperz said:
The Government use things like this to distract from fairly disasterous domestic affairs.
Brazil has a massive drug epidemic with widespread poverty and lawlessness. The government done little to deal with real world issues and should stop focusing on irrelevant censorship over titles that have neglible affect on the culture of the majority.
Brazil has a massive drug epidemic with widespread poverty and lawlessness. The government done little to deal with real world issues and should stop focusing on irrelevant censorship over titles that have neglible affect on the culture of the majority.
It's not a democraxy, they don't need votes, they just do what they're told and pick on easy targets.vshade said:
Like US Republicans they focus on 'morals' which blind people to their abuses of power to attain wealth. People are stupid, they would rather starve if the government promises a strict 'moral' code, in terms of expression at least, than prosper under a government with liberal views.
That bill is stupid for a number of reasons. As someone stated, here, in Brazil, 99% of game copies are ilegal, pirated copies (The rest is probably PS3 titles). Banning anything will have no effect on players (except, maybe, PS3 titles, but I bet those can be imported anyway). It just might impair game designers, like brunoraymundo here, to produce freely, and that will be the main loss - on our own production!
TO add to the debate: here we have no kind of rating over games. So you either sell a game on any shop to any 8 year old (strange how those little fellas like GTA, isn't it?) or don't sell to anyone, if it was specifically banned (wich very few titles where, for no particular reason over others).
TO add to the debate: here we have no kind of rating over games. So you either sell a game on any shop to any 8 year old (strange how those little fellas like GTA, isn't it?) or don't sell to anyone, if it was specifically banned (wich very few titles where, for no particular reason over others).
Hmmm, not much to say. In general it shouldn't surprise anyone because the US is on a censorship kick, and if we're trying to limit the free speech in our own nation, then it's not like we can really champion free speech in other nations. The wind might change but a lot of nations that want to limit their free speech seem to be jumping on the bandwagon right now, and later on if we do eventually quit the current nonsense it's not like we can blame them for passing the laws at the same time it was an issue here.
Also I'd imagine it's being done for economic reasons. Brazil is "the nation of pirates". Generally speaking I'm not entirely sure if the intent is to actually limit the content, but rather to limit legitimate sales. Basically they lock the companies out of the market so they can't sell their product legally, and this even further limits their actions against pirates who are going to distribute their stuff anyway. It just means that the world court and other groups will have their hands effectively tied in going after Brazil. Really we already had an article explaining how much money is involved in games piracy down there.
I also think part of the problem is that people underestimate Brazil a bit. While culturally backwards, they have a lot of modern technology in places. If they could get themselves in line they could even potentially become a true first world country unlike a lot of other nations in the general region. Brazil is capable of playing "the game" internationally fairly well.
Also consider that allegedly some of the biggest titles internationally are ones coming from Japan through companies like ATLUS and such. The Megaten franchise includes some rather interesting "spins" on Christianity and such. Some of the music liscences and such associated with such games can get fairly complicated. I'd imagine they might be thinking ahead in that policy to "double block" Japan given their influance in the games market, as well as to effectively "ban" music and such associated with some of these games that have popular soundtracks. Giving little grounds for them to demand the pursuit of pirates.
So basically the pirates continue to operate as they are now (having been doing something illegal) they make a ton of money, kick it back to the goverment, and the goverment doesn't have to worry as much about international pressure since none of the people having their work pirated can sell their wares in Brazil legally.
I'm probably not articulating this properly, but with the size of their video game piracy I think Brazil is easily advanced enough to make a play like this.
Also I'd imagine it's being done for economic reasons. Brazil is "the nation of pirates". Generally speaking I'm not entirely sure if the intent is to actually limit the content, but rather to limit legitimate sales. Basically they lock the companies out of the market so they can't sell their product legally, and this even further limits their actions against pirates who are going to distribute their stuff anyway. It just means that the world court and other groups will have their hands effectively tied in going after Brazil. Really we already had an article explaining how much money is involved in games piracy down there.
I also think part of the problem is that people underestimate Brazil a bit. While culturally backwards, they have a lot of modern technology in places. If they could get themselves in line they could even potentially become a true first world country unlike a lot of other nations in the general region. Brazil is capable of playing "the game" internationally fairly well.
Also consider that allegedly some of the biggest titles internationally are ones coming from Japan through companies like ATLUS and such. The Megaten franchise includes some rather interesting "spins" on Christianity and such. Some of the music liscences and such associated with such games can get fairly complicated. I'd imagine they might be thinking ahead in that policy to "double block" Japan given their influance in the games market, as well as to effectively "ban" music and such associated with some of these games that have popular soundtracks. Giving little grounds for them to demand the pursuit of pirates.
So basically the pirates continue to operate as they are now (having been doing something illegal) they make a ton of money, kick it back to the goverment, and the goverment doesn't have to worry as much about international pressure since none of the people having their work pirated can sell their wares in Brazil legally.
I'm probably not articulating this properly, but with the size of their video game piracy I think Brazil is easily advanced enough to make a play like this.
sliply slope here... no wait, were nearing its end.CantFaketheFunk said:
well goodbye to all rpgs everywhere or hell prity much everygame with a storyline can be affiliated with religion.
hmmmm hes walking up the stairs with a gun, he is a marine.
reaction Oh no hes walking up the stairs, hmmm you know some people depict the entrence to heaven as alot of stairs going upward. OH CHRIST HES GOING TO HEAVEN WITH A GUN...... (ok that was a bit of a extreme example)
what next banning all racisim adverts due to them highlighting racisim, or banning all tv programs which arent about everything nice?
Wow, just... Wow. I was hoping that was a mistranslationbrunoraymundo said:
Well, you'd always be welcome in England, we only have the one loony game-hater, and the government just gives him enough power to let him think he's important so he'll shut up
