Breaking Bond: Why Skyfall is the Worst Bond Movie Ever

[EvilRoy]

It?s interesting what a little emotion can do. I posted this thread in anger (hence the lack of formatting) and it became a quasi-interesting social experiment. After reading some of the responses I realized that I had inadvertently created a trap for people to embarrass themselves with. There should be a word for such a person because trolling is something entirely different and douchebaggery is too general.

I have no idea how you reached this conclusion. I've read the entire thread and only a few people have posted a series of cringe worthy responses, you being chief among them.

I did come to realize why Skyfall elicited such a strong reaction from me. In North America (this may be true in Europe as well, I?m not as well traveled as I would like to be) there has been a disturbing trend in people in general. It went from ?be perfect?, to ?well you?re not perfect but try to be?, and now it?s ?fuck it, you?ll never be perfect, just be crappy?. Now accepting yourself is important, but so is self-improvement. Nowadays kids in school can?t fail a test or subject or they?ll complain to their parents and get the teacher fired. It?s sending out the wrong message. It?s sending the message that we can stop trying to be better.

I am trying to be a better me. I am actually trying to be less of an asshole to random people on the internet. That?s not much in evidence here so... there?s a lot of work to do in that regard.

In Skyfall Bond fails his mission. He fails and nobody says anything about it to him because it?s okay to be a failure now. That is the wrong message. I don?t believe that we, as a species, have peaked already. I think we can still be better and there?s nothing wrong with having a hero fail as long as he is punished for it. As long as we get to see that he understands that he has failed and will try to be better.

Captcha: have an inkling (well it took a bit, but now I do)

"It's okay to be a failure" is really only the outlook used with some groups of children. In the adult world it has more recently become "work until your usefulness is played out". Bond is going to be quite thoroughly punished for it, perhaps not by the agency but more by the ravages of alcoholism and time. To my mind the ending wasn't "oh well it's okay to mess up" but rather a silent admission that Bond is getting old and worn out, and no longer holds relevancy in the world.

 

[Nimzabaat]

It?s interesting what a little emotion can do. I posted this thread in anger (hence the lack of formatting) and it became a quasi-interesting social experiment. After reading some of the responses I realized that I had inadvertently created a trap for people to embarrass themselves with. There should be a word for such a person because trolling is something entirely different and douchebaggery is too general.

I have no idea how you reached this conclusion. I've read the entire thread and only a few people have posted a series of cringe worthy responses, you being chief among them.

I did come to realize why Skyfall elicited such a strong reaction from me. In North America (this may be true in Europe as well, I?m not as well traveled as I would like to be) there has been a disturbing trend in people in general. It went from ?be perfect?, to ?well you?re not perfect but try to be?, and now it?s ?fuck it, you?ll never be perfect, just be crappy?. Now accepting yourself is important, but so is self-improvement. Nowadays kids in school can?t fail a test or subject or they?ll complain to their parents and get the teacher fired. It?s sending out the wrong message. It?s sending the message that we can stop trying to be better.

I am trying to be a better me. I am actually trying to be less of an asshole to random people on the internet. That?s not much in evidence here so... there?s a lot of work to do in that regard.

In Skyfall Bond fails his mission. He fails and nobody says anything about it to him because it?s okay to be a failure now. That is the wrong message. I don?t believe that we, as a species, have peaked already. I think we can still be better and there?s nothing wrong with having a hero fail as long as he is punished for it. As long as we get to see that he understands that he has failed and will try to be better.

Captcha: have an inkling (well it took a bit, but now I do)

"It's okay to be a failure" is really only the outlook used with some groups of children. In the adult world it has more recently become "work until your usefulness is played out". Bond is going to be quite thoroughly punished for it, perhaps not by the agency but more by the ravages of alcoholism and time. To my mind the ending wasn't "oh well it's okay to mess up" but rather a silent admission that Bond is getting old and worn out, and no longer holds relevancy in the world.

Yeah, that is another issue with Daniel Craigs Bond. We get two movies of him working up to be the Bond we know. Then a movie where he is clearly on the decline. I understand that we've had about 20 odd movies of Bond in his prime, but that is what I paid to see. Also, I do not want to see a movie where Bond is just sitting in his apartment drinking out of the bottle and wondering where it all went wrong. While that would be a "dark" and "gritty" take on the Bond franchise, and i'm sure that the people who loved Skyfall will fall over themselves with how "deep" it is, that's not Bond.