Brilliant...but lazy....

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maninahat

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Blunderboy said:
I'm not brilliant but I sure am lazy.

I do love how half of this thread is people going. "Oh that's me. Brilliant and lazy."
Yet I see no proof of the brilliance.

Still, I guess everyone likes to feel like they're different or special.
That's why I prefer "most stupid thing you've ever done" threads. The egotists just don't bother. That is unless they want to brag about how impressive their stupidity was.
 

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this discribes me to a t I am often told how smart I am and that I have so much potential But to be honest I dont have the drive to reach it I would rather relax then put in any effort heck one time I one a poetry compition with a poem I wrote in the last five minutes of a two hour class I dicked around the whole lesson
 

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[b/]1. I call bullshit[/b] I get the impression this may in fact be a "cover" for people, they never have to try, so they never have to fail. They can sit there with a sense of smug supirioty without ever having to show anything for it, its a delusion that's very easy to have among a certain demographic of people *cough*. I get the feeling if half of thease people actually tried they'd realise they were in fact normal and not super special (of coarse I think in some cases the dedication and will to work for it is just as important as the ability being htere in the first place.)

[b/]2. its nothing to be proud of[/b] even if there was truth in the statement, again as I said, the dedication and will to work towards being "brilliant" is just as important. I don't see it as a bragging point because I think personally I just see it as wasting what you have...[b/]and acting like its a fucking good thing[/b]...or I dont know..some kind of "cool and rebellious" thing...

now I admit I am by no means perfect, I've been burned before by my own lazyness and attitude not to different from this, mabye its a kind of jealously really,

so what do you think? do you know anyone like this? do you agree/disagree?
I totally get this, and both sort of agree and disagree. I've had experience with the sort who utilise it as a sort of cover (Easily spotted by their derision of the work as simple or easy, and their failure to excel at it), but I'd actually consider myself as an example of this (Pitchforks away people, hear it out, yes, I know how stupid it sounds).

I used to be a good student, and I used to get good marks. I'm on a couple of academic scholarships. But I'm not good at applying myself, because being smarter than most of the people in my previous schooling meant I only had to do the bare minimum to excel. Now I have to actually work, and I'm alongside people who were either as smart as I am, or who worked harder, and I don't understand how to do the extra work necessary to get by, and I don't try as hard. It's like the start of Winger's speech at the end of the first episode of community.

I literally had one thing I couldn't do in my first 12 years of schooling, and that was circular trigonometry. So I spent 8 hours over a couple of days learning it all from scratch, until I had it. That was the only time I studied for a test. I was that jerk who got by without revising, because I pretty much knew it all after a once over.

It's frustrating, because I know I want to do it, but I can't get things organised and accomplish my goals. Point 2 covers this. It's not something to be proud of. I'm profoundly disappointed by my lack of work ethic, and my lapse in dedication. It's not something to brag about, and yeah, it's probably going to cost me a few thousand dollars if I have to pay my University fees if my scholarship gets revoked (Yes, this sounds very similar to one of the people in the video). I'm self-aware enough to realise that failing at applying myself well is not a particularly intelligent thing, but I can't get the attitude right. I think it really is an attitude thing. I don't know if it's depression or something, but I've been feeling very fucked up and apathetic. Whilst realising how stupid that is, which feeds back into it. Yay! Emotions!

So I wouldn't say that the idea is inherently wrong, but the people who truly have intelligence and lack the capacity to make the best of it, are usually intelligent enough to see how stupid that dilemna is, and are ashamed of it, and that those who would use it to excuse their performance with an appeal to an undemonstrated ability, are probably just ordinary in the most boring possible way.
 

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I knew a guy like that, but he was an okay kinda guy. Mainly because while he did view himself as brilliant, he never belived himself to be infallible. He waste lazy, he just felt the "3-4 hours outside the classroom for every 1 hour inside" was crap. He felt he had more important things to do, and considering the number of extraciricular activities he was doing, he was right.
 

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Amazing how many people are claiming this is them... I think actually trying is the real talent here.

Sure I feel the same way, could do better if I tried harder, seems to fit in with always wanting more. People always want more, and most think they could do better.

Captcha: rough diamond

Man that is too beautiful. That's right everyone, you're just a rough diamond needing a bit of polish.
 

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That was me when I was younger. Get good grades? HAVE YOU SEEN ALL THIS DAILY WORK, SHIT? I'll just ace the test and get by with a C.

Then I got to college, money was on the line, and I've had a 4.0 for 3 years now. Yes, part of it was the change in structure (Tests were worth more) but I was now actively trying to achieve.
 

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I personally know neither brilliance nor laziness.

On the same note I am not friends with talent either.

Though, I know many who have met these various things.
 

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Acton Hank said:
God, I hate those people, so focused on potential and possibilities that they can't understand that maybe their idea of success is different than yours.
i have on of those internet problems right now where i am not sure if you applying irony or not
manic_depressive13 said:
teebeeohh said:
I have been called "insanely smart" and have a a knack for picking up information by just listening to people talk
Fuck! People can do that?!

OT: Yeah, I find that kind of stuff annoying for few reasons:

1. They're usually not that brilliant.
2. They're usually not that lazy.
what i was referring to is that my brain seems to be much better to store information i hear than stuff i read or write (which is the most common way of studying among people i know). take for example a giant wall of text in a textbook, most people i know will read through it, make notes and read those notes to memorize what is in the text. this doesn't quite work for me and while i still do all the reading and the writing but to actually remember things a few hours later i have to read both the text and my notes out loud to memorize things.
i am not saying it's better than other ways of learning, it just saves me a lot of time since i don't have to spend as much going through my notes after every class
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just an engineer?....as opoased to what? president?....a heart surgeon president?
i guess people always expect people who have great results in school to end up doing something super special
 

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"Brilliant" is usually far too strong a word for the people who claim to be this trope. Maybe "not as dumb as some other people" but brilliant? Yeah, right. I'm a very lazy person, and I do think I'm reasonably intelligent, at least academically, but I'm no genius and I'm not "brilliant." So yes, while I probably could do well at some things in my life if I tried harder, I'm not about to say "I could save the world if only I cared to try."

HOWEVER, I'm also not one of those people who is only lazy because he's "scared to fail." I fail often, sometimes pretty hard, but it never gets to me. I'm lazy because I enjoy being lazy. It pleases me.

And TC, you'll find that TV Tropes is FULL of people like that, as is the internet in general. "Oh, I could do so much, but why bother? The world sucks." This is why TV Tropes got rid of Troper Tales and forbids self-examples now. Even they got sick of all the ego stroking on there.

CAPTCHA: "Evil Genius" That's another thing: people who claim to be "evil." If you were evil, YOU'D DO SOMETHING EVIL. Until then, you're just a dumb-ass who dreams of murdering the people he hates, LIKE NOBODY ELSE EVER DOES THAT.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
"Brilliant" is usually far too strong a word for the people who claim to be this trope. Maybe "not as dumb as some other people" but brilliant? Yeah, right.
This, completely. "Marginally intelligent but useless and insecure about it" is what I'd call them. The people who actually go about claiming to be "brilliant but lazy," that is.

Anyway, reasonably intelligent and somewhat diligent here :)

CAPTCHA: "think hard"
I wonder if captcha is programmed to do a sort of Wolfram Alpha search using the subject of the thread, and then find relevant captchas?
 

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I agree with one of those comments.
"Brilliant but lazy" is not doing any studying for a test and getting an A on it.
Most people who say that they're Brilliant but lazy are just lazy idiots who think they're smart.
 

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I have a better than average memory (it was close to exceptional when I was younger), am detail-oriented and a quiet person around those I'm not familiar with. Apparently, that made me smart. I've run into a lot of former classmates recently that told me they always thought I was smart. Well, the joke's on them... ha. By the way, in this case, a lot = ~10. So, I'd say I fit the bill here, except replace brillant with "adequate."

Being out in the real world now, I certainly don't feel smart. Doing things with very little guidance (as compared to the relatively on-rails progression of school life) is really hard for me. I think I'd do better in life if I could afford to hire someone to guilt and threaten me into doing things ^^. Being told okay, here's some basic guidelines, now go do this thing we're not entirely sure how to do is much harder than write what I told you the last few weeks in these blank spaces, with contextual and referential clues embedded in the questions for your convenience.

Looking back, I wish I had tried harder. I know so very, very little, and that's very intimidating. Verily.
 

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Vault101 said:
this is something I see quite a bit online, the person who is very very smart yet due to lazyness and or attitude they do not try...or get by on bare minimum...or do ok without effort but "could totally do better"
No offense, but you just accused people of laziness online without properly spelling laziness or use of caps. I'm not saying the occasional typo is bad, but this takes minimal effort.

Think about that.

I get the impression this may in fact be a "cover" for people, they never have to try, so they never have to fail.
Perhaps, but at the same time, I was relatively unchallenged in school. It made me fairly lazy because I didn't have to work at anything. This is a real thing. Does that mean it's always true? No, the same way 90% of claims of Aspergers on the internet are self-diagnosed and probably false, but still.

Also, I'm not sure TV Tropes is to be taken seriously. Some of those were fairly obviously tongue in cheek.

They can sit there with a sense of smug supirioty without ever having to show anything for it,
Yes, when I think "superiority," I think "flunked out of college."
even if there was truth in the statement, again as I said, the dedication and will to work towards being "brilliant" is just as important.
Maybe it's different in Aussieland, but here in the USA we hate actual effort. We strive for easy answers, especially if they're lazy ones. Also, apathy rules the roost and has since before you were born.

now I admit I am by no means perfect, I've been burned before by my own lazyness and attitude not to different from this, mabye its a kind of jealously really,
I'm not a Christian, but there are many Biblical passages that deal with the concept of "don't judge." I'm particularly fond of the one that (and I'm paraphrasing), says "before removing the speck from your neighbour's eye, first remove the plank from yours."

Maybe spend more time working on yourself before you start casting about at others.
 

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Blunderboy said:
I'm not brilliant but I sure am lazy.

I do love how half of this thread is people going. "Oh that's me. Brilliant and lazy."
Yet I see no proof of the brilliance.

Still, I guess everyone likes to feel like they're different or special.
What exactly counts as "proof of brilliance" in an internet forum?

I kind of see this comment as: I'm not brilliant but everybody else thinks they are,
so admitting I'm not brilliant actually makes me special.
 
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[b/]1. I call bullshit[/b] I get the impression this may in fact be a "cover" for people, they never have to try, so they never have to fail. They can sit there with a sense of smug supirioty without ever having to show anything for it, its a delusion that's very easy to have among a certain demographic of people *cough*. I get the feeling if half of thease people actually tried they'd realise they were in fact normal and not super special (of coarse I think in some cases the dedication and will to work for it is just as important as the ability being htere in the first place.)
I got accused of this back in high-school; I was called brilliant-but-lazy all through high-school, eventually culminating in being called into my headmistress' office to be accused of fearing that I would fail live up to the label of brilliance if I ever actually tried(and that she wanted me to start being brilliant at school because they needed more students to show off). What both of you miss is that, brilliant or not, I and many others can't be arsed to apply that much energy to something we have little to no interest in, even if we may turn out to be brilliant. I honestly don't know if I would have been brilliant at the work we were being given and I don't care, I apply myself to what I enjoy doing and that's all that really matters to me here.
 

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Also you have to remember that some people are simply not allowed to do something by virtue of being the wrong kind of person. There is always something standing in the way, whether it be gender, age, race, sexuality or socio-economic class.

I know the last one is definitely something I've had to contend with and still haven't found a way to get around it. I've lost count of the numbers of times I've gone for a job interview and been looked at like I'm scum simply because I'm working class and male.
 

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RedFeather1975 said:
There are brilliant people out there who are completely incompatible with what this world demands. Attack their sense of pride, threaten them, or make them hurt because they don't contribute. Whatever lines you want to cross. It's both desperate and futile.
Now go and burn with rage. Just feel that anger and need to spite consume you.
Strong the rage is in you, young one.


LET IT ENGULF YOUR HEART FEEL THE RAGE CONSUME YOUR VERY SOUL AND CRY AS EVERY FIBER OF YOUR BEING IS CAUSED TO SHIVER WITH EACH AND EVERY BREATH THESE PEOPLE TAKE.




Although, you're probably a douche bag, this is a worthless topic about people who don't know how to manage their life... then again if you're looking at garbage like this I'd hate to compare your life to theirs.