Brink : No Girls Allowed
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I don't get how you guys can see it that way. Gender is a form of customization. It is half assed customizing because you can't even choose the most basic option, male or female.voetballeeuw said:
The choice of what kind of hat you want is surely a microscopic choice compared to the gender you play as. At a time when the gaming community is expanding, it just doesn't make sense to exclude half the population.
If a game boasts customization, I'd expect gender to be the foremost choice given to the player, seeing as it's one of the quickest and easiest ways to feel like your avatar represents you.
Now, I'm a guy, and I doubt I'd play as a female in this game, but it sure would add a lot of immersion and depth to the game if it wasn't just dudes running around, no matter what trousers or socks they're wearing.
I guess this is an issue where there isn't really an objective answer, it all boils down to how you view character customization and what choices the developer made.
I for one prefer playing as a female character but I guess I'll settle for having fun trying to make the ugliest guy possible.
I for one prefer playing as a female character but I guess I'll settle for having fun trying to make the ugliest guy possible.
That's actually a really good point which has to do with the game mechanics and not social pressure. Excellent job sir!CardinalPiggles said:
That isn't that uncommon. It is more rare to actually see a game that does let you have a female character...
Such a bad reason to whine. Seriously, female characters do not need to be represented in every single scenario because some scenarios simply would be unreasonable featuring them.
Mount and Blade Fire and Sword? No female commanders.
TF2? Only female character sitting safely in her office yelling out orders (Fine with that).
Battlefield, Call of Duty none on the first lines of fight... And don't even get me started about multiplayer.
Deus Ex (Original and the only good one): Nope.
I say if this decision is made only because game designers wanted it to be so. Fine, let them.
But if it was made out of lazyness than well... Don't deliver unfinished product. Simple as that.
Mount and Blade Fire and Sword? No female commanders.
TF2? Only female character sitting safely in her office yelling out orders (Fine with that).
Battlefield, Call of Duty none on the first lines of fight... And don't even get me started about multiplayer.
Deus Ex (Original and the only good one): Nope.
I say if this decision is made only because game designers wanted it to be so. Fine, let them.
But if it was made out of lazyness than well... Don't deliver unfinished product. Simple as that.
You can probably explain the lack of females away in the story. "Females are too valuable, without them we can't continue to exist, this is also why you don't see childrenl; they're both our future!"
Whilst it is disappointing, it is also understandable: Having to tweak all of the clothes and options to work with a female character is just extra work, which they obviously don't think is much of an issue. Unless people want it to be...
Whilst it is disappointing, it is also understandable: Having to tweak all of the clothes and options to work with a female character is just extra work, which they obviously don't think is much of an issue. Unless people want it to be...
EvE has no need for character hitboxes which break balance(if you've never seen a game where everybody abuses being female for an advantage go play an fps with the option, i'l wait), EvE's avatars exist purely as a pretty homemade portrait and as such takes a fraction of the time to actually make properly, EvE has also been adding new options for a hell of a long time to that system.mirasiel said:
51% of the population of the world, not 51% of the target audience, having no female option is nothing new to FPS games.
while I can appreciate the general victimized minority to feel the collective need to have a bit of a whine (oh hey i'm colourblind, that actually affects 'gameplay' and yet nobody gives a crap), but this idea is so shallow and blown out of proportion that it's idiotic.
The company are not doing it to offend you, the company have good reasons for their decision, the community comes up with plenty of good reasons (and bad but ignore those) why it, shouldn't/can't/doesn't matter if it does, happen.
The decision not to include female characters sadly echoes the long history of Western society trying to pretend that women don't exist and/or don't matter. I for one am really tired of seeing half of the people in the world left out or ignored. This sort of thing is really insidious because whether intentionally or not, the developers are saying that women don't matter. By simply excluding women all together, the message is simply that they are of no importance. I wasn't completely sold on the game as it was, but even if this were the greatest game ever created, I would refuse to buy it.
Yes, yes it does. Halo 3 had female voices (with "gender neutral" avatars), ODST had the same and even had a few female avatars for Firefight mode, and Reach has female voices and two sets of avatars so that both genders are represented. So, since only the first two were male-only, there are now officially more Halo games that include females in their multiplayer than there are Halo games which do not.TheDarkEricDraven said:
And Section 8? I had to actually look that up, because that's a pretty obscure example. Did anybody buy that game?
Besides, Halo has never really claimed to have a very robust character customization feature until Reach, and even then your entire body and face are obscured by armor. The same can be said, as far as I can tell, about Section 8. Brink does claim to have a robust customization feature, so that's why "the upset".
I think when Gears of War and Halo can be cited as examples of games which are more gender inclusive than another game, the developers of that third game should probably rethink things.
Solution: make it an all female cast.Silver Salmu said:*le snip*
but basically just this:
Seriously, set it in a future where for whatever reason 99% to 100% of the population are female. I mean who would care? Women wouldn't feel left out and really are guys going to complain?
If this obstacle of dual-genders is such a challenge then why should developers so often give up on female characters and focus 100% on males?
I think for developers who have in the past decided to go 100% male cast for the simplicity of animation and interactions, then for each game they should take it in turns, one game go all male, then the next game go all female.
I'm no feminist, nor even female, I am just fed up of so many games being sausage-fests. I want to see more females in games even if it means to the exclusion of all male characters.
I don't expect nor particularly want them scantily clad, just distinctly women, warrioresses
Video games are serious business.aLibrarianOfSorts said:
Why does everything have to be a comment on Western Society? And why Western Society? In what mythological fairyland have women experienced more equality in recent decades and centuries than in Western nations?
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These are the best statements ever!Nautical Honors Society said:
OT: Because every 13yo perv would run around in their underwear.....
Hmm, a fair point I suppose.bahumat42 said:
This takes me to something else I thought of though...why male? If you have to reduce your customization then fine, but why choose male when we know the industry is looked upon as a male pastime (when theres no reason it couldnt include females).
The argument you've posed is reasonable enough, but they could've avoided all of this if they'd gone with androgynous characters.
Might sound weird, but why do the characters have to be male? They have a pretty far-fetched story as it is (ark an all) so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that people were now androgynous. Then you could customize it to be as masculine or feminine as you pleased, and again greater variety would be available while sacrificing pretty much nothing.
The spartans in Halo, for instance, are completely androgynous, could be a girl or a guy in those suits, and it ceases to be an issue. Obviously harder to do without helmets and armor, but I bet it would've been achieveable.
Would've had balls to try and do it anyways, and so would have my respect.
Well my thought is I was gonna buy the game cause I was looking forward to cutomising my charatcer but as I can't play as a female I'm not buying it 
Its a shame but will it really stop you from enjoying the game also its entirely possible that they could release female character customisation options after launch as free or paid for DLC
though I don't know if that will happen or not create enough of an uproar about it and you increase your chances of remedial action taking place.
though I don't know if that will happen or not create enough of an uproar about it and you increase your chances of remedial action taking place.