Brink : No Girls Allowed

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binvjoh

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Macrobstar said:
binvjoh said:
Macrobstar said:
binvjoh said:
Lazy developers.

It's not like it would take that much work.
I hope thats sarcasm, as someone elsehas already stated in another very long post, it would take quite a lot of work actually
And obviously they must be right?
Well no, its just they made a reasoned argument with believable points, you just said it wouldn't take much work, who am I going to beleive?
Basically he/she said they would have to completely re work the animation for female characters, because male and female bodies are differant in certain areas
They might be right. I hadn't read their post until you alerted me of it.

Anyway, what I guess I actually mean/want is that they would have started out with the goal of having both male and female characters available. I'm not going to "demand" that they add it in now.
 

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I'm in the boat of choosing sex is, kinda, the first step of customization. Plus, like I've found from a friend of mine who usually picks girl toons in games, much more appealing to our eyes.

I'm sick of seeing space marines and other big ugly guys running around killing each other. Some pretty ladies would definitely improve the entire FPS genre, especially since they are all the same nowadays anyways.
 

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SteewpidZombie said:
Well I could argue the same for non-male games. Mirrors Edge, Portal, Tomb Raider, Metroid Prime, Beyond Good & Evil, Diablo 1&2 (I wanted to have a male Sorceror or a female Necromancer, Buuuut NOOOOOOO says Blizzard), Eternal Darkness, Heavenly Sword, ect.

But in this case...yes...Brink is just being lazy
The only problem in this list as that most of these have little or NO customisation. I'm not sure about Diablo or eternal darkness, but all of the other games you listed are story driven games around a female lead role.

You dint get the choice because this is part of the story, and yes, you may well say well why couldnt the character be male to begin with, but the point is that this is how the writers intended their character to be.

Put simply, you dont get the choice because you dont get a choice.

OT: i dont really see the problem, the vast majority of the game will be spent AS the person, so you wont get a good look at who you are anyway. The only difference is the sounds and voice of the character.
 

RichardThompson

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This is a game, right? Specifically a first person shooter, not something like the Sims where it actually matters what your person looks like?
I'm interested in Brink because shock-horror, the trailer looked good. I personally think the people in it look like they've been bred as some super-humans with genetics far beyond the reach of the best athletes in the history of man.
Who's to say with these super-humans that some of mask-wearers aren't female, you just can't tell due to the minimum pectoral growth being roughly 3 feet broad?
 

mythicdawn12

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Kukulski said:
Does thinking that this is good because I would feel bad shooting women make me sexist or outdated?
It makes you human. That's a natural feeling, males are generally programmed to protect females.
 

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Aris Khandr said:
Any game that offers even the most basic of character customization options, but does not include the option to select your gender, is immediately ignored by me. That's why I have not and will not play the Gothic series.
How can you read his post up from ur high horse?
How about you get off and stop hating them for doing the right thing.
It is always a good thing when a company focus more on the core game-play and more important things than being able to have boobies in the game.
 

caviar1

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you could select the "female" option (introduced in halo 3), granted all that changed was your death noise was feminine. broadening, I think a better question might be why a male avatar is always the default, i hardly ever choose a female character in games because it's not what was already there, when i fire up ME3 and the default character model is a girl, ill save the galaxy as Cynthia Shepard.
 

Aris Khandr

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UmbrellaAssassin said:
How can you read his post up from ur high horse?
How about you get off and stop hating them for doing the right thing.
It is always a good thing when a company focus more on the core game-play and more important things than being able to have boobies in the game.
Clearly, we'll have to disagree on that. My philosophy on things is "don't do them half way". And leaving an entire gender out is certainly "half way" in my eyes. Bully for the boys who get more options, but I, for one, am tired of the idea that female gamers are only worth catering to "if there is time".
 

caviar1

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but they didn't, that's why you can customize everything...except your gender, that's the whole reason why this is an issue
 

Kyle Roberts

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I don't really care i was planning on making my self as armoured as possible like normal full face mask,helmet Ect... so gender dosn't matter to me.
 

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Eh, it's not too bad obviously, no girls in TF2 (you cannot see the pyro properly is my point) and I literally remember that the only reason people were girls on halo:reach was because of the hilarious noise they made when they died. That's it really. Rather have decent customization than a half-arsed one.
 

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i think it's because of the 3 body classe, because they probably didin't know how to make a supper buff girl without making it look weard.
 

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Aris Khandr said:
Any game that offers even the most basic of character customization options, but does not include the option to select your gender, is immediately ignored by me. That's why I have not and will not play the Gothic series.
Wait, Gothic had *any* options regarding cosmetic customization of your character? How did I miss that? I thought I got that ugly mug because my nameless self was born with it. =p
 

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bahumat42 said:
well go get some girls to play games. As of the time of writing the market shares (especially for shooters) show that their not being played by females (not by large enough amount to take into consideration when building said genre of game). They have finite time and would rather add a feature which will net them money. And thats capitalism. Money controls everything ^^
You do realize that perhaps if these features were in there, and many developers/marketers didn't treat shooters like they were for males only, then female players might feel more welcome to actually play these games. It works both ways. If I feel like you're making a quality game, I'll give you my money. If you're treating my desire to play a game and hyping up the incredible ability to customize someone that looks like me, but then excludes the half of the population I belong to by making an excuse about "time", then you won't.

We're a very large part of the market and over half the population. There's just no excuse for this stuff.
 

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Wicky_42 said:
Just thought you'd like to think a bit more on the issue, Jumbo Palace.
Well when I thought of the "heavy" category I wasn't thinking fat. I was imagining tall, wide, and muscle-bound. Qualities few women want or can even achieve if the desire is present. It makes far more sense for a male character model to be a large imposing figure than a female.

I'm not a sexist, and I fully advocate for the inclusion of proper female characters in games, but in this circumstance it doesn't seem to fit. Unless female characters were limited to small and medium builds, which would then cause concern from people like yourself since heavy wasn't included. It's a lose lose.
 

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JUMBO PALACE said:
I'm not a sexist, and I fully advocate for the inclusion of proper female characters in games, but in this circumstance it doesn't seem to fit. Unless female characters were limited to small and medium builds, which would then cause concern from people like yourself since heavy wasn't included. It's a lose lose.
Considering this is fictional and not bound to realism, I'd say they could've just, I don't know, created a female type to fit the Heavy role. :)