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fix-the-spade

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Jordan_17 said:
A) What do you think of the B.N.P

B) If you, like me, are tolerant and belive in equal rights but also in respecting opinions what would you do if you knew someone who voted BNP or some other facist political party?
A: Facism by another name.

B: Nothing, but they certainly wouldn't be a friend of mine.
 

gh0ti

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AndyFromMonday said:
Wait a minute, some people in the UK actually want to vote for a racist political party? Oh seriously, are people that damn stupid these days? Who, in their right mind, would vote for a party who discriminates against other people for evolving into a different enviroment? It just blows my mind how people can be so stupid these days.
Germans weren't stupid in the 1930s, the trouble is the Nazi party, like the BNP today, were good at telling people what they wanted to hear and trying to tone down their overt racism until they had gained power.

As for the original post, the BNP are a stain on humanity - ignorant thugs who revel in cynical manipulation of public hysteria, hypocrits who feel so secure in their own superiority that they blame others for their every failing.

If I knew someone who supported the BNP, I would respect their views, disagree strongly, and break off as much contact with them as possible. It is society's place to ostracise those with obscene beliefs, not the government - this is the central tenet of free speech.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
Wait a minute, some people in the UK actually want to vote for a racist political party? Oh seriously, are people that damn stupid these days? Who, in their right mind, would vote for a party who discriminates against other people for evolving into a different enviroment? It just blows my mind how people can be so stupid these days.
Well to be fair the BNP don't go out of there way to appear racist so that's not why they'd be voted for (well apart from a few). They'll appeal to those who have lost jobs to foreign companies or people who don't like the number of illegal immigrants coming into the country. Although the people who vote for them are stupid on the whole, or misguided

A) I can't actually think of anyone who deserves my hate more at the moment. They pretend to be British (which also appeals to some people) when they oppose equality and democracy (at the very least they don't want minorities having it) which are part of modern Britain. Also there over use of the British flag have made non-racists who are merely patriotic nervous about flying the flag.

B) try and convince them not to vote

One thing I do take solace in is that every one posting here seems a fairly sensible, non-discriminatory individual. Now I just wonder how representative of the world the escapist is
 

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http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/storage/BNP%20leaflet%203.JPG

http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1115980_posties_refuse_bnp_leaflets

http://blog.muradqureshi.com/dont-be-fooled-bnp-is-still-racist-and-fascist/

BNP won't win
 

ChromeAlchemist

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D_987 said:
Let people beleive what they want - its not like the BNP are ever going to get into power - people are to well informed for that. I say tolerate their opinions, even if you disagree with them.
Couldn't disagree with you more. The BNP have influence and are tied too closely with the National Front, and they are using that influential power to affect the freedom and well being of others to the point where people can and have been negatively affected.

I'm not saying ban them, you are right about the general public being too well informed for them to get into power, however not everyone is well informed, especially young people. That's why religious extremists get packed seminars all the time.
 

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WrongSprite said:
B) I'd set their house on fire.
No, because then other people can't live there. Simply walk in with a machete/hammer/melee weapon and kill them. No sound, and someone else can live there.
 

sms_117b

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I think with a bit more thought in what they say, in fact, some thought before they say anything and the general current climate in the UK they'd easily get into power especially looking towards lower/middle class people, but, because they have the whole "whoa, they're a racist" and "British Nazi Party" thing going on they wont.

I'd do nothing if someone I knew voted BNP, maybe ask why, but nothing generally
 

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gh0ti said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Wait a minute, some people in the UK actually want to vote for a racist political party? Oh seriously, are people that damn stupid these days? Who, in their right mind, would vote for a party who discriminates against other people for evolving into a different enviroment? It just blows my mind how people can be so stupid these days.
Germans weren't stupid in the 1930s, the trouble is the Nazi party, like the BNP today, were good at telling people what they wanted to hear and trying to tone down their overt racism until they had gained power.
Both the NAZIs and the BNP right now took advantage of the credit crisis and depression and inflation etc. in order to rise to power. They just blamed it all on someone else. For the NAZIs, it was the Jews, and for the BNPs, it's immigrants. It's the same with UKip (Why they're so successful currently).

As for the questions:

A- The BNP are a bunch of facists who try to clain they're "respecting Britain and it's people" when they're actually just blaming everything on immigrants. I even respect the Monster Raving Loony Party more than the BNP.

B- I would probably just have a long debate with them about why the BNP is evil and wants to put immigrants in death camps. "Did I say death camps? I meant happy camps, where you recieve the finest food and the best doctors and be able to exercise regularly."

I've actually looked at the BNP website (*shudders*) now and found these two articles acceptionally funny:

http://bnp.org.uk/2007/12/is-the-bnp-racist/

http://bnp.org.uk/policies/immigration/

Among other things, they call charities racist and believe that asylum seekers are bogus.

And that's why I hate their guts. =D
 

Lord Azrael

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I think the BNP and suchlike a reaction to the stale nature of modern British politics where all the parties are practically indistinguishable. The BNP could possibly gain support as they promise firm, definite action, whatever that might entail rather than the other parties' fence-sitting and namby-pambyism. The same goes for UKIP and the Greens.

Restricting people's freedom to speak is not a sensible way to go about quashing any political party, that can only lead to smouldering resentment that might one day come and bite you in the arse. Sensible, open debate is the way forward, if they really are full of shit then surely this will out given adequate debating opponents?

I'm not rascist... I hate everyone equally! :p
 

Tehpwnsauce

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WrongSprite said:
A) Racist ignorant fools who are disgruntled with their lot in life.

B) I'd set their house on fire.
After making sure that there was no possible escape routes.
 

AMCization

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I am pretty sure that no-one is saying the BNP will win (Atleast anyone who knows anything about politics) But they stand to hit bigger than before in the MEP, and with the way expenses are going.

Lets just say there are a lot of disgruntled working class white people in Britain.
 

Lord Azrael

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Tehpwnsauce said:
WrongSprite said:
A) Racist ignorant fools who are disgruntled with their lot in life.

B) I'd set their house on fire.
After making sure that there was no possible escape routes.
Come now! What kinds of comments are these? Where could that possibly lead? It's this kind of knee-jerk reactionary response that stirs up tensions and overrides reason and common-sense.

It's also strange that no-one seems to see any similarity between the BNP (fascist) and parties like RESPECT who I would describe as liberal fascists - do what we tell you and behave exactly as we tell you or we'll come and stamp on your face and disrupt your summits! This kind of boisterous aggressive politicking is best resigned to the 14th century!
 

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first off don't think im a racist or anything, but i agree with some of their policies, such as 'no the EU' and be more for the British people than everyone else, and jobs for British workers first before looking for foreign labour.

but however i don't agree with the ways they want to get their goals (the extremist methods)

i also think they have a better chance than ever before of getting an M.E.P on Thursday due to all the scandle lately. but if this happens then it will be due to the fault of the current corrupt government.
 

Susano

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Ireland has Libertas, the toned-down equivalent. Maybe they are trying to set up a party in every country, for world domination!
 

AMCization

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The wording of some of there policies is pretty funny.

"We shall actively "Encourage" stars like Amir Khan to return home, but say that this will not result in a loss of talent"

I believe Encourage was their most used word.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
Wait a minute, some people in the UK actually want to vote for a racist political party? Oh seriously, are people that damn stupid these days? Who, in their right mind, would vote for a party who discriminates against other people for evolving into a different enviroment? It just blows my mind how people can be so stupid these days.
And that isn't even the best part. Apparently "the BNP aims strongly to appeal to those members of the population who consider immigration to be a threat to jobs, a cause of rising crime, and a basis for cultural decline". Yet the most disgusting part of this is that they only want to get rid of anyone who isn't caucasian. So they claim they want to stop cultural decline, yet they wouldn't get rid of anyone who was, for exmaple, Polish, because they're white.
I'm aware that this sounds more like I'm complaining about the way they do things rather than the principal of it, and could be taken the wrong way. What I mean is that they use all this as a cover-up for textbook racism.
 

ix_tab

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Reminds me of Australia's bad old days with the One Nation party.

Even though there will always be assholes who vote for them, they will be sidelined due to the fact that they are racist nutbags. I have enough faith in humanity for that. It will be unfortunate to be from their constituant if they get a seat though.