Bronies! Are you ashamed of yourself? - UPDATED
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And other people's opinions don't matter to you at all?TimeLord said:
I know a lot of people, particularly on the internet, like to say they don't care what anyone thinks, but if nobody cared what anyone else thought our society would cease to function. Have you experienced prejudice against your particular hobby? If so, how did you overcome it?
My tribe versus your tribe. I'll do my damnest to convince myself that my tribe is better than your tribe.SonicWaffle said:
People don't hate on bronies (bacon lovers, gays, hippies) in order to make them feel bad, but in order to feel good about themselves. It's a self-validation thing.
A wise man (I forgot who, maybe he wasn't that wise, or he was) once said "A man's worth is determined by the enemies he made."
To that, I say, "A man's self-worth reflects in how many things he despises." Yeah, I just came up with that.
I wouldn't consider myself a brony, but I do know a few things about the show. I don't see what's wrong with it, people are acting as if it heralds the twilight of modern animaton (hurr hurr), but seriously, it's just a cute and simple slice-of-life cartoon. With some magic, drama and hamming it up involved.
Captcha: Dinosaurs on a spaceship
What...WHAT!? Captcha, you like reptiles on flying vessels!? Clearly, you will burn in hell, heathen!
because for some reason it moved here from off-topic where I tried to post of. The mysterious Gods Of The Internet apparently judged thusly. Though, it being at least partially about Warhammer 40K, that's gaming...DJ_DEnM said:
What's interesting to me is that it isn't the brand or the narrative universe that appears to be the bone of contention, just the context. A friend laughed when I mentioned playing Warhammer, but the same friend didn't raise an eyebrow a few months back when I said I'd played the demo for Space Marine. It appears that if you're holding a controller then dabbling in that universe is fine, but woe betide you if you're playing the exact same scenario with little plastic models.Scorched_Cascade said:
I dunno - like I said, I think it's the models and the tabeltop setting more than the universe.Scorched_Cascade said:
I felt like throwing an attention-grabbing title in there, and hoping that at least some Escapists would bother to read the OP without resorting to shouting ;-)Scorched_Cascade said:
Well... no. If I cared what other people think I wouldn't go walking round my local city wearing my Doctor Who trenchcoat and an 8-bit tie. I wouldn't sit in a McDonalds playing Pokemon on my 3DS. I wouldn't have gone to America for an Internet gaming expo.SonicWaffle said:
So you're saying that now that geek culture is verging on mainstream, we're fated to break apart and start sub-dividing into smaller and smaller subcultures with all the attendant wars that implies?Vegosiux said:
You have a point there, but my question isn't so much about why people hate than it is about why people hate these specific things. What makes one geeky pursuit any lamer than all the others?Vegosiux said:
Would you wander about with your dick out? Not trolling, serious question - if you really don't care what others think then why does it matter if they see your junk?TimeLord said:
I really don't think you're going to find any Brony willing to admit that they're ashamed, especially on the internet and this site. Because Bronies aren't supposed to feel ashamed. Goes against their image. I'm sure there are some out there who do though. Not because they feel bad about watching the cartoon, but because the way other people treat them. The teasing and laughing is easy to shrug off. It's the glaring looks, the disgusted breaths, the behind-your-back comments that get under your skin and make you ashamed.
My friend got me a Rainbow Dash shirt as a semi-joke for my birthday. At first I was a little worried about wearing it out in public. Don't have that problem now as I wear very often. Have it on as I'm typing this actually.
My friend got me a Rainbow Dash shirt as a semi-joke for my birthday. At first I was a little worried about wearing it out in public. Don't have that problem now as I wear very often. Have it on as I'm typing this actually.
Pretty much, yeah. While geekdom was niche, it had no problems with staying within its monkeysphere. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number] As it closes in on mainstream and gets larger, the "geekdom attributes" get diluted and blurred.SonicWaffle said:
A geek, by definition was someone who was not mainstream, liked a particular field or hobby, and was likely an introvert. So we either change the definition, or we break the current "geekdom" into subsets to maintain some kind of status quo.
Well, popularity or unpopularity, mostly, I think. Also the "guilty pleasure" effect may kick in, sometimes it's "I shouldn't like this, but I secretly do, so I better publicly hate on others who do so I maintain my personal integrity".SonicWaffle said:
Sometimes it is as simple as finding a notable difference that sets "me" apart from "them" and twist it so that you're on the "good" side of it. The hate on bronies doesn't come from them liking MLP, it comes from them liking something that is both notable enough and different enough to be worth making a fuss over in the name of self-validation.
Am I making any sense here? I hope I am.
And in your opinion, why is MLP looked down upon more than other things which the culture at large has labelled as nerdy?Sniper Team 4 said:
No, that would be stupid because I'd get arrested. Also I said "I do what I want because I enjoy it". I would not enjoy that. I never said I'd do anything. I said I wouldn't care what others think about what I do. I'm not going to think "Oh maybe I shouldn't listen to this music in case my friends think I'm weird". I'll listen to whatever I want and if my friends don't like it then that's their problem not mine. I don't see the point in limiting what you do in life just because someone disagree or thinks you're a little crazy.SonicWaffle said:
Baring stupid examples like going around naked.
Let's say you have friends over at your house, where you (probably, I haven't done huge amounts of research) can't get nicked for being naked. You decide to whip off your keks and bare it all to the world. Would you consider, even for a second, how these friends might judge you or would you just go ahead and do it?TimeLord said:
This, to me, is the crux of the "I do what I want and I don't care what people think" issue - it always seems to be within certain mental boundaries which, once crossed, the person stating that they don't care dismisses by saying "well of course not that, don't be stupid". It's more of an "I do what I want, within certain socially defined parameters", and in this case my question is what parameters have defined that MLP is something to be kept quiet and what exactly has made it so.
Well of course it's going to be within certain socially defined parameters. But the examples I used in my first post were all gaming or geek examples. Which is exactly my point. I'm not ashamed to admit and show that I'm a geek, to my friends or complete strangers. Because I don't care if they disapprove because I enjoy being a geek.SonicWaffle said:
Yes, but the point here is that even within "I'm a geek", we appear to be stratifying and saying "Yeah, I'm a geek, but that guy is more of geek, because what he likes is pathetic"TimeLord said: