Bronies Get the Cracked Treatment

[hittite]

Can I retract my comment about it being drivel and substitute it with a bemused expression and a half-uttered exclamation of puzzlement?

Be my guest. Pretty much everyone has that response at least once to the show. For me, it was the episode where Pinkie Pie went (more) insane.

[http://gifsoup.com/view/2421105/pinkie-pie-gone-insane.html]
But that's mostly because by that point I knew about... a certain fanfic that shall go unnamed.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

It was missed due to the simple fact that so many of you do use that horrifying destruction of the English language. Whimsy i have no problem with, but you people are a scourge upon the world and you intolerable behaviour has cause many unnecessary modwraths to be inflicted on innocent individuals fed up of your nonsense.

oh and before you think of replying (or anyone to quote me in anger)

This is my offical response to all of you.

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You are a very angry individual. I think you need a hug and muffins.

I'll point out that the "innocent individuals" you mentioned could easily have simply not said anything, or worded what they did say in such a way as not to get in trouble for it.

Also, "horrifying destrution of the Enlish language"? You are clearly new to the internet if you think that that's bad. It's simply a jargon shared by people who like the same show and generally only really use it amongst themselves.

Maybe instead of using all of your energy raging at people for speaking about something you don't like, you could use it to go to places, you know, not discussing it? This thread is a prime example. You came here with the full knowledge (at least I hope you did) that you would get into a discussion just like the one we're having.

Instead of being mature, you're being offensive to those people who, really, haven't done anything to you. You came here, knowing it would start trouble, essentially making you the same as those you hate. Or rather, how you perceive those you hate. I'm sure some of them just do it for shits and giggles, but most of us don't freak out about it, or go out of our way to cause people trouble.

That being said, I hope that this wraps this discussion up, and good day to you.

 

[Outcast107]

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I think someone just needs a hug.

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

Bronies is a fandom I too, cannot stand. It's not that they like the show. I don't care less about what people like. It's how they go about justifying plastering it everywhere, like they're some bizarre kind of colourful horse-based revolutionaries. Look at us, we don't fit in with male gender stereotypes! We're rewriting the definition of manly!

Ugh. Every freakin' time. Look. It's a girl's show. If you want to watch it, go ahead and watch it. I'm not going to complain. However. Those avatars. Those gifs. You don't have them because you like them, you have them because they're My Little Pony. I personally don't like my avatar. I chose it because I had nothing else to choose from. I'd change it, but it's kind of associated with my name now, and I'd rather not confuse people. But I like Armoured Core. Kind of. I enjoyed the second game. Okay, back on track.

You don't like the show. You've become the show. While I think Trekkies take it a little bit too far sometimes, and I don't get their jokes, I can understand why you'd get into a franchise as big as that. THAT, at least, is the target audience. You guys are getting off over a story about FRIENDSHIP. I'm not sure how hard I have to hit these nails for you to understand. They are happy little horses who are struggling to understand friendship. This is morality for kids. You should not be entertained by this drivel. Good God.

Much of my thoughts on this, here. Most of the phenomenon is because it's a fad, people just going through the motions because that's the cool thing to do right now. I'd be fascinated to see how people of these guys actually watched this on their own, with absolutely zero influence whatsoever from anyone else, and actually, genuinely enjoyed it. I bet I could count them on my fingers.

I might need an extra hand to count the ones that watched it because it's a fad, but genuinely enjoyed it afterward.

The hive mind is an interesting but disturbing thing. People can convince themselves of almost anything as long as it's socially acceptable to a large enough group somewhere. The ferocious need to fit in, for solidarity, to feel like part of a greater whole seems to override all sense in most people. And when told something to the effect of "Uh, don't you think you guys are being a little ridiculous?", rather than ask themselves "Wait, am I?", they instead spew some automated response in an attempt to gain cred with their peers.

It's just amazing how this is the form it so often takes.

 

[Melon Hunter]

Bronies is a fandom I too, cannot stand. It's not that they like the show. I don't care less about what people like. It's how they go about justifying plastering it everywhere, like they're some bizarre kind of colourful horse-based revolutionaries. Look at us, we don't fit in with male gender stereotypes! We're rewriting the definition of manly!

Ugh. Every freakin' time. Look. It's a girl's show. If you want to watch it, go ahead and watch it. I'm not going to complain. However. Those avatars. Those gifs. You don't have them because you like them, you have them because they're My Little Pony. I personally don't like my avatar. I chose it because I had nothing else to choose from. I'd change it, but it's kind of associated with my name now, and I'd rather not confuse people. But I like Armoured Core. Kind of. I enjoyed the second game. Okay, back on track.

You don't like the show. You've become the show. While I think Trekkies take it a little bit too far sometimes, and I don't get their jokes, I can understand why you'd get into a franchise as big as that. THAT, at least, is the target audience. You guys are getting off over a story about FRIENDSHIP. I'm not sure how hard I have to hit these nails for you to understand. They are happy little horses who are struggling to understand friendship. This is morality for kids. You should not be entertained by this drivel. Good God.

Much of my thoughts on this, here. Most of the phenomenon is because it's a fad, people just going through the motions because that's the cool thing to do right now. I'd be fascinated to see how people of these guys actually watched this on their own, with absolutely zero influence whatsoever from anyone else, and actually, genuinely enjoyed it. I bet I could count them on my fingers.

I might need an extra hand to count the ones that watched it because it's a fad, but genuinely enjoyed it afterward.

The hive mind is an interesting but disturbing thing. People can convince themselves of almost anything as long as it's socially acceptable to a large enough group somewhere. The ferocious need to fit in, for solidarity, to feel like part of a greater whole seems to override all sense in most people. And when told something to the effect of "Uh, don't you think you guys are being a little ridiculous?", rather than ask themselves "Wait, am I?", they instead spew some automated response in an attempt to gain cred with their peers.

It's just amazing how this is the form it so often takes.

That bolded part will apply to pretty much any form of media ever. When was the last time you picked up a book, game or film, or watched a TV program without any form of encouragement or endorsement beforehand? I know I can't remember, and I get through a lot of media. I know this will mean nothing to you, but the vast majority of fans genuinely enjoy the show, and don't simply watch it because it's the 'cool' thing to do. You can keep repeating "It's just a fad" to yourself, but that isn't going to change anything.

 

[Paladin Anderson]

I've watched some ponies. I don't see the attraction. But I find bronies pretty entertaining and completely harmless.

Sad thing is, no matter who you are, where you're from, what do you, or how you look, people ARE going to hate you and criticize you. Then there are those who will be bitterly disgusted at your entire existence.

They have nothing better to do and that's pathetic.

The first step of maturity is overcoming those who want to push you down to lift themselves up. Letting them get to you only means they win.

 

[TheHorribleSmell]

"Much of my thoughts on this, here. Most of the phenomenon is because it's a fad, people just going through the motions because that's the cool thing to do right now. I'd be fascinated to see how people of these guys actually watched this on their own, with absolutely zero influence whatsoever from anyone else, and actually, genuinely enjoyed it. I bet I could count them on my fingers."


That's both accurate and completely wrong. There's a lot more than a handful of people who enjoy the show because it's good (which, seriously, it is. That's why this whole thing started in the first damn place), but the amount of people who use it in EVERYTHING just because it gives them a sense of community is arguably bigger. I watched the show myself only knowing a fraction of how big it was, and enjoyed it immensely. I thought it was damn odd that I liked it so much at first, and only found out later that I was FAR from alone. I'm a brony because the show is good, no other reason. It just helps that other actual bronies are probably the nicest, most talented and overall best community on the internet right now.

Fad bronies, on the other hand, are one of the worst. We dislike them almost as much as you do, yet we still get lumped up with them because vocal minorities within a larger group will always get more attention than their quieter counterparts.

 

[hittite]

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I started watching because a lot of people on the internet said it was good.
I didn't find most of the rest of the fanbase until almost a month after I started watching.
I kept watching because it makes me happy. Simple as that.

 

[Eomega123]

I liked the article. They did some research, and they didn't jump on the OMGPONIZGAAAAAYYY boat that some people have taken. Though they did use the G1 image. We bronies (or at least 99% of us) do not like G1. We tolerate it, however. G3.5 on the other hand needs to burn in a fire (don't google it unless you have brain bleech handy).

And for people talking about bronies invading forums, I haven't seen a single pony comment anywhere it wasn't applicable for the past several months, and I go on this site pretty much daily.

 

[Melon Hunter]

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Two words: Vocal Minority. Everyone hates the people who spammed pony GIFs and reaction images for no good reason. Also, I'm intrigued by your announcement that you believe you're responsible for stopping our 'plague' (nice emotive choice of word there, by the way) spreading even more on these forums, along with a choice selection of other users. Do you have an organised club going, or is it on an ad hoc basis? I'm genuinely interested, as it seems there are a dozen or so users who have a united anti-brony front on the Escapist, and a couple of them have mentioned they actually go out of their way to post on pony threads before.

 

[Erttheking]

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Two words: Vocal Minority. Everyone hates the people who spammed pony GIFs and reaction images for no good reason. Also, I'm intrigued by your announcement that you believe you're responsible for stopping our 'plague' (nice emotive choice of word there, by the way) spreading even more on these forums, along with a choice selection of other users. Do you have an organised club going, or is it on an ad hoc basis? I'm genuinely interested, as it seems there are a dozen or so users who have a united anti-brony front on the Escapist, and a couple of them have mentioned they actually go out of their way to post on pony threads before.

You mean like the two at the beginning of the thread? I do recall one of them receiving a permeant ban and the other receiving a warning.

 

[Erttheking]

It was missed due to the simple fact that so many of you do use that horrifying destruction of the English language. Whimsy i have no problem with, but you people are a scourge upon the world and you intolerable behaviour has cause many unnecessary modwraths to be inflicted on innocent individuals fed up of your nonsense.

oh and before you think of replying (or anyone to quote me in anger)

This is my offical response to all of you.

<youtube=LoXfiSU_wqE>

You are a very angry individual. I think you need a hug and muffins.

I'll point out that the "innocent individuals" you mentioned could easily have simply not said anything, or worded what they did say in such a way as not to get in trouble for it.

Also, "horrifying destrution of the Enlish language"? You are clearly new to the internet if you think that that's bad. It's simply a jargon shared by people who like the same show and generally only really use it amongst themselves.

Maybe instead of using all of your energy raging at people for speaking about something you don't like, you could use it to go to places, you know, not discussing it? This thread is a prime example. You came here with the full knowledge (at least I hope you did) that you would get into a discussion just like the one we're having.

Instead of being mature, you're being offensive to those people who, really, haven't done anything to you. You came here, knowing it would start trouble, essentially making you the same as those you hate. Or rather, how you perceive those you hate. I'm sure some of them just do it for shits and giggles, but most of us don't freak out about it, or go out of our way to cause people trouble.

That being said, I hope that this wraps this discussion up, and good day to you.

I'm not actually that angry on a day to day basis,because in the real world people don't run around yelling about ponies.

Its a lovely place

And i retort that they had every right to stop your plague from spreading and speaking their mine.

I'm not new to the internet, and i don't mind jargon, in fact due to the fluid nature of language evolution i encourage helpful new phrases like LOL because in context of saving time and space they are effective, what you have is a failed attempt at whimsy, which i wouldn't mind if it was on one of your pony boards, because nobody else ever has to see those

And i think you misunderstand me if you think i have an issue with the show, its fluff sure, but everyone watches fluff, whether it be action fluff in the form of transformers or romantic fluff of every rom com ever. Its harmless entertainment and should be treated as such.

No i have an issue with the religious fervour in which many people who own the term brony would choose to act. Now granted this has died down of late, but i honestly believe without actual effort put in by me and others this board would be much worse than it currently is.

And back on track i have several issues with bronies, one of which is that a person would be so close minded as to define their lifestyle by a program they choose to watch? you know who else did that, trekkies, do you know what happened to them? everyone looked down on them too. Being so consumed and one minded towards any aspect of any medium means you aren't truly experiencing what the form is capable of. Countless times i read people claiming that its the only good thing on television. Which is pure nonsense. Its a staple of the immaturity and short sighted thinking which is associated with the group.

And the reason I and many others are so annoyed by you and your comerades is the thorough spamming and overexposure you forced us to in the early months of 2011, not just on this board but around the web. As un-accepting and closed minded as you accused others of being, you were yourselves, refusing people who had valid opinions that your show wasn't the cartoon renaissance and with shows like the regular show, young justice and adventure time all showing various different ways the form could be used, arguing that your opinion was right and screaming it on all the forums just painted the show in a bad light, ironically creating the opposite to what you wanted, the actions of your community actively dissuaded people from watching the show.

And here it is again if you got confused, no issue with the show. Its you guys who are the problem.

Oh yes, I'm soooooooo certain that they base their entire lives around it. After all you must know so much about what they do offline. I also like how you assume that we're all like that and it's just not a handful of people that even we edge away from. Dissuade people from watching the show...didn't stop me .

 

[javelinstark]

I'm actually pretty relieved to read this entry, because it's evidence that bronies are far from gone and I was beginning to worry I jumped on the bandwagon way too late. But what do you think of it? Was it too hard on bronies, or was it just hilarious?

Brony for life man. as long as it stays good ill stay to watch. if it starts to suck ill just keep watching the good ones over and over again. who cares about the bandwagon

 

[Melon Hunter]

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Two words: Vocal Minority. Everyone hates the people who spammed pony GIFs and reaction images for no good reason. Also, I'm intrigued by your announcement that you believe you're responsible for stopping our 'plague' (nice emotive choice of word there, by the way) spreading even more on these forums, along with a choice selection of other users. Do you have an organised club going, or is it on an ad hoc basis? I'm genuinely interested, as it seems there are a dozen or so users who have a united anti-brony front on the Escapist, and a couple of them have mentioned they actually go out of their way to post on pony threads before.

You mean like the two at the beginning of the thread? I do recall one of them receiving a permeant ban and the other receiving a warning.

Yes... actually, the one other prominent anti-brony around these parts is Abandon4092 (I think that's the number). As for the one that got banned, they were prone to making rather unpleasant posts around the Escapist, so I'm not surprised they got banned for that post. It was pretty much par for the course. To be honest, the forum health meter punishes vitriol and vehemence hard. I guess that's why so many of the old guard on the Escapist have now been banned.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

Christ, I wasn't expecting a short story. I'll break it up a bit and hit it point by point.

I'm not actually that angry on a day to day basis,because in the real world people don't run around yelling about ponies.

Its a lovely place

And i retort that they had every right to stop your plague from spreading and speaking their mine.

Umm, why would you want to silence a group of people who aren't causing harm? If there's no harm being done, rules/laws bing broken, there's no reason to silence it. As I said before, if you don't like it, simply don't partake.

I'm not new to the internet, and i don't mind jargon, in fact due to the fluid nature of language evolution i encourage helpful new phrases like LOL because in context of saving time and space they are effective, what you have is a failed attempt at whimsy, which i wouldn't mind if it was on one of your pony boards, because nobody else ever has to see those

While I agree that keeping the pony related topics in pony specific place would cause less grief for all involved, very few people would get into the show, which I know you would count as a blessing, and people that were curious about it wouldn't learn because more likely than not, they'd not visit the pony specific sites. It's unreasonable to pack away a group of people into specific areas just because you don't want to see what they have to say. If they do it on their own, it's different, but expecting them to do it because you don't want the grief is...well, kinda unreasonable.

And i think you misunderstand me if you think i have an issue with the show, its fluff sure, but everyone watches fluff, whether it be action fluff in the form of transformers or romantic fluff of every rom com ever. Its harmless entertainment and should be treated as such.

No i have an issue with the religious fervour in which many people who own the term brony would choose to act. Now granted this has died down of late, but i honestly believe without actual effort put in by me and others this board would be much worse than it currently is.

That last line specifically amuses me. Did you ever stop to consider that the people simply moved into the pony specific group because it was faster and easier to discuss it? You know, the thing that I addressed above? Moving on to the whole chunk though, yes, it's fluff. It's harmless entertainment. It's also hamrless to be fans of it, and really like it. I don't have t-shirts, music, toys, or anything else like that, and I'd like to think that I'm the average "brony." You make it sound like we can't go five minutes without quoting it before we start frothing rainbows or something.

And back on track i have several issues with bronies, one of which is that a person would be so close minded as to define their lifestyle by a program they choose to watch? you know who else did that, trekkies, do you know what happened to them? everyone looked down on them too. Being so consumed and one minded towards any aspect of any medium means you aren't truly experiencing what the form is capable of. Countless times i read people claiming that its the only good thing on television. Which is pure nonsense. Its a staple of the immaturity and short sighted thinking which is associated with the group.

You're making it sound like the vocal minority stand for the silent majority. See the point above. We're not all like that. Just like most people that don't like the show/bronies, the group you fall into, aren't actively hunting down areas to show their ire in.

And the reason I and many others are so annoyed by you and your comerades is the thorough spamming and overexposure you forced us to in the early months of 2011, not just on this board but around the web. As un-accepting and closed minded as you accused others of being, you were yourselves, refusing people who had valid opinions that your show wasn't the cartoon renaissance and with shows like the regular show, young justice and adventure time all showing various different ways the form could be used, arguing that your opinion was right and screaming it on all the forums just painted the show in a bad light, ironically creating the opposite to what you wanted, the actions of your community actively dissuaded people from watching the show.

You realize that bronies have...what, like tripled in size since then, if not more? I got into the show well after it started dying down, as have many others. As I keep saying, most of us are content to watch it and throw in a reference every so often for grins. Also, I've never seen a brony or pegasister who said that MLP was the best thing on TV/the web and be so rigid about it that they weren't willing to accept that other shows also have their merits. Most bronies/pegasisters I've talked to like plenty of other shows. That's not to say there aren't the freaks out there building shrines to it as we speak, but I think we can both agree that those are (hopefully) few and far between. Arguing your opinion is part of what forums are about. 90% of the time, you're not going to change people's minds simply because of the same rigidity that you yourself are both showing and damning. To have such a venomous attitude towards a group of people who like something and show interest in it, and hate them all in a broad and sweeping statement saying, "It's not the show I hate, it's you." actually makes it seem worse somehow.

And here it is again if you got confused, no issue with the show. Its you guys who are the problem.

How very open minded of you. You say that the problem isn't the show, which I can appreciate simply because there are so many people that hate because it is what it is. You have my respect for that much, at least.

However, you turn right around and say that we're the problem, going so far as to call us a "plague." Now, in all fairness, yes, there are bronies/pegasisters that are a royal pain in the ass. We can all admit that. Some people just like trolling, no matter what they like.

The blame lies on both groups though. Bronies/pegasisters generally preach love and tolerance, which is part of the show, but more than that, is a good philosophy to have, show or no. Part of that is being able to tone it down a bit when they know it causes problems, and most I've seen do. On the other hand, the other side rants and raves and condemns because we like what we like. It's not even entirely the posting of it. You said so yourself by saying that it's not the renaissance that we think it is (I don't, btw, and know very few who hold that view) and stating that other shows could easily take it's place.

Your issues are with both the show and the fans. If you were a little less hostile, we'd be less inclined to post ponies in your threads or in responses to you, now wouldn't we?

As I said, the blame can be placed on both sides. Bronies/pegasisters need to chill on the holier than thou approach and get off their soap box.

You and your group need to relax and not throw hissy fits whenever something pony related pops up unless it's purposely intended to cause problems, which you should just ignore. Honestly, if you ignored it, the bronie trolls would leave you alone, just like anyone else. The only person you're upsetting in all of this is yourself.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

your intolerable behaviour has cause many unnecessary modwraths to be inflicted on innocent individuals fed up of your nonsense.

I hope you're not referring to/springing to the defence of "Mianus" with this sentence, that guy had his fucking chance several times over. He got something 6/7 notches added to his health bar for repeatedly coming on to threads that specifically pertained to ponies (all the while claiming to be sick of seeing them) in the title and making brazenly inflammatory comments wishing grizzly deaths upon the fanbase. If he'd have pulled that shit in relation to fans of any gaming franchise (you'll notice time and time again many haters of popular franchises e.g. COD, getting warnings for their disparaging remarks), the mods would be on his ass for that as well. It's only because he and many other users feel vindicated in flaming this particular fanbase for the obnoxious conduct of some of the more vociferous members that anynone is reacting remotely fucking surprised or hard done by. Granted, I acknowledge there are some rather beleaguering little shits within the fanbase and I agree that any pony based discusssions should be kept within the group chat. However, it fucking astounds me that people like "Mianus" see threads that are clearly labelled to be pertaining to animated equines and go to post anyway merely to express their revilement upon the discovery of a such a thread. I mean what the fuck do you think is going to happen? When you quite unassailably and repeatedly flame the same target across several threads, then there are going to be repurcussions. I'd call him a fucking idiot if he needed to be told twice, but after six or seven occurrances, now I just think he's a fucking masochist. You guys are pissed I get it, even I fucking dread it when a thread with ponies in the title comes up, because I know it's inexorably going to devolve into this kind of shit and it's not like either side of people on the issue are going to budge a solitary fucking inch on their stance, so I have to ask people why do you bother? Surely if are so sick of seeing ponies all the time, wouldn't you want to do your upmost to avoid anything relating to it like the fucking plague? Do really have anything to gain, except another step closer to being banned by coming on here to express your discontent? Don't you generally leave this thread even more pissed off then when you came in? Is it really worth the fucking hassle?

/Rant the fuck over.


-_- Not that anyone will listen...

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

That bolded part will apply to pretty much any form of media ever. When was the last time you picked up a book, game or film, or watched a TV program without any form of encouragement or endorsement beforehand? I know I can't remember, and I get through a lot of media.

Well, that's the thing: I reach my own conclusions about everything I enjoy, no exceptions. Some endure, some do not, and some are seen in a new perspective over time, but on the whole, nothing I consume has anything to do with anyone else. Which isn't to say that I find out about them exclusively on my own, but my experience with them is more or less exclusive to me, for better or worse.

Granted, I'm an extremely reclusive cynic that takes little at face value, absorbs few opinions without several others to compare them to, and that goes out of their way to maintain the maximum amount of distance from people possible, except with an entire four people in the world. I'm not saying everyone has to do it that way, but it has a lot to do with why your claim that everyone is influenced into the things they enjoy is nonsense. I also have no regard for what others, even the few close to me, think of the things I enjoy, nor am I concerned whether my opinions will make me popular or unpopular with anyone else.

So to answer your question, "The last things I read or played (disclaimer: I don't watch or enjoy television or movies on my own, so anything I watch was because someone else wanted to, and thus doesn't qualify here), the last ones before that, and so on." If you'd like specifics, Armored Core 3, as a result of my personal Armored Core series retrospective of late, and before said retrospective, Sonic Generations.

I'm not unwilling to try something with good PR, though, but the last thing I played due to popular public opinion was Mass Effect, and I hated it. Before that, however, was Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which I found surprisingly enjoyable, and I didn't even pick it up for myself to begin with.

Something I need to make clear, though, is that I don't see my stance on things as better than the way anyone else does it. I'll say mine is more earnest, more honest, and less stressful at times, but it suffers from the burden of truth, so to speak; everything is under scrutiny, nothing is taken at face value, and I sometimes feel the need to question others because it's in my nature (or I've at least developed it as my nature; I can't really remember anymore, truth be told), and sometimes it's more trouble than it's worth.

On the other hand, it's liberating to know that I can enjoy something without fretting, and get some amusement out of someone criticizing it, should the need strike them; they're probably right about whatever they're complaining about, even. But it doesn't matter as long as I like it, because I like it for my own reasons, and that's the nice part.

And that brings me to my next point, which I promise will have less exposition.

I know this will mean nothing to you, but the vast majority of fans genuinely enjoy the show, and don't simply watch it because it's the 'cool' thing to do. You can keep repeating "It's just a fad" to yourself, but that isn't going to change anything.

You know no such thing, first off. Every opinion has some merit in my eyes as long as it's earnest, whether I agree with it or not.

Secondly, I don't genuinely buy that the vast majority of fans enjoy the show on its merits alone, and I doubt you do either. When you need to come up with and employ the use of terms like "brony", it's not about the show anymore; it's about the phenomenon, it's about the experience as a whole. Without the fan base, without the terminology, without the memes, without the ability to turn up your nose in a smug manner at the unwashed masses, without the animated .gifs, would it matter to most of you as much, and would you be offended by my disapproval? No, probably not. This is evidenced as soon as the first post, when the commenter remarked about their fears that the show was falling out of style. And that's fine, in its own way, even if a little tragic in my opinion (but really, who asked?) but what gets my goat is when people try to defend it by saying it's not the case.

Well, that and seeing it everygoddamnedwhere I look. Adblock has become my tether to sanity around you guys.