Brother and sister in lift sex *EDIT*

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It's not so much about morality as it is about biology.
Inbreeding IS biologically(Did I spell that right?) wrong, and can cause an increase in the chances of offspring being affected by recessive or deleterious traits. This can lead to loss of immunity to illnesses, deformations, and possible loss of fertility.

Yes the people having the sex do nothing to themselves, but it's not them. It's about the offspring they may create.

There are worse things though.
Also, could they at least keep it at home if they must keep it in the family?

In breeding occurs naturally in other species though. Anyway, there are thousands of things that human beings do that are 'biologically wrong', I see no reason why incest should be singled out.

so, you agree with incest?...

If its consensual, sure. Its not hurting anyone. And yes, I personally find the idea of it to be gross. I also happen to find eating brussel sprouts gross, though I realise that is no good reason to have a law against them.

So are you an only child or just disgusting? Thinking about your sister doesn't turn normal people on because humans aren't wired that way. We instinctively are against incest because it isn't healthy. These are NOT two adults, they are two sick and mentally unstable people. Also, MOST people are responsible enough not to have sex in a place they will be easily spotted or have sex when they are supposed to be looking after a minor. Not so with those who commit incest. As I said, mentally unstable, and you should be ashamed to defend them.

See above.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Two adults take part in consensual sex. I fail to understand in what way they are twisted.

So are you an only child or just disgusting? Thinking about your sister doesn't turn normal people on because humans aren't wired that way. We instinctively are against incest because it isn't healthy. These are NOT two adults, they are two sick and mentally unstable people. Also, MOST people are responsible enough not to have sex in a place they will be easily spotted or have sex when they are supposed to be looking after a minor. Not so with those who commit incest. As I said, mentally unstable, and you should be ashamed to defend them.

So mentally ill people don't deserve a defence? It seems odd that you spend all that time making a point proving that they're mentally ill people, yet condemning those who defend these mentally ill people right after.

I thought it was a general rule that mentally ill people need other people to do their defending for them... At least for a time


I don't really take a particular side in this "debate" if you could call it that, i just thought i'd point out that that little irregularity in your post

I can go with the righteous fury angle too btw

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Two adults take part in consensual sex. I fail to understand in what way they are twisted.

LOL

Are you implying that sex between siblings is okay? Does it not gross you out at all? I hope you're just trolling.

Also, click the link guys. The couple both look like sloth from goonies

Edit: sorry for singling you out. It seems the rest of this thread is as depraved as you.

There's nothing depraved about two adults having consensual sex.

So you would sleep with a sibling, is that what you're saying?

No, and I don't much appreciate the strawman. What I am saying is that I don't see a reason why other people shouldn't.

Ask yourself why you wouldn't and I'm pretty sure you have your answer.

Because of reverse sexual imprinting as described by Edvard Westermarck. Just because it's apparent in me, though, doesn't mean it's apparent in all.

A theory by a philosopher is not enough to explain it away. Case in point, myself and no friends of mine who have sisters being in any mind to do anything sexual with them.

No, that's true, but chances are most people in the modern world will share the viewpoint of incest being something that really, you shouldn't do.

 

[khaimera]

Two adults take part in consensual sex. I fail to understand in what way they are twisted.

LOL

Are you implying that sex between siblings is okay? Does it not gross you out at all? I hope you're just trolling.

Also, click the link guys. The couple both look like sloth from goonies

He's not implying that, he's outright saying it. As am I.

Would I want to fuck my sister (if I had one)? Probably not. But them doing it affects me in no way whatsoever.

They do look inbred already, though, which is sad.

I guess I've just never met anyone who didn't think this was gross and/or wrong in all ways. I'm not going to push my morals on anyone, unlike most Americans I know, so I want to hear your side if you're willing to explain it. Does culture or country have something to do with it?

 

[khaimera]

LOL

Are you implying that sex between siblings is okay? Does it not gross you out at all? I hope you're just trolling.

Also, click the link guys. The couple both look like sloth from goonies

Edit: sorry for singling you out. It seems the rest of this thread is as depraved as you.

Gross, sure. Twisted, or even slightly morally wrong, no. Emotive reactions very rarely have any actual moral value.

Really? I've never studied morality or philosophy but I see no reason not to include emotions in morality.

In this thread (and on nerd sites in general) I see a huge number of people who try and remove emotion as something of value. Its as if its a weakness that needs to be eradicated in favor of objective, scientifically measured, and rational facts. Humanity is not wired like that and never will be.

This has been the oddest thread for me.

 

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Really? I've never studied morality or philosophy but I see no reason not to include emotions in morality.

In this thread (and on nerd sites in general) I see a huge number of people who try and remove emotion as something of value. Its as if its a weakness that needs to be eradicated in favor of objective, scientifically measured, and rational facts. Humanity is not wired like that and never will be.

This has been the oddest thread for me.

I happen to be studying both morality and philosophy at the moment and there is actually a moral system called Emotivism which claims that all concepts of morality are really nothing more than emotional reactions. Emotions are certainly not a weakness, but the problem with this is that it cannot then be used for any practical purposes. Morality has no use if we don't have some sort of Objective moral code/system to hold people and actions against; and the only way we can reach moral objectivity would be to do so logically. An example of why this code needs to be based on logic can be seen in one of the laws passed by one of the previous presidents in Malawi (I think it was Hastings Banda). The law made public kissing a jailable offence because the president at the time found kissing to be repulsive. In this case, we may find incest to be repulsive, but if it is consensual and between two adults then it causes no harm and therefore there is no logical reason to view it as immoral.

 

[khaimera]

Really? I've never studied morality or philosophy but I see no reason not to include emotions in morality.

In this thread (and on nerd sites in general) I see a huge number of people who try and remove emotion as something of value. Its as if its a weakness that needs to be eradicated in favor of objective, scientifically measured, and rational facts. Humanity is not wired like that and never will be.

This has been the oddest thread for me.

I happen to be studying both morality and philosophy at the moment and there is actually a moral system called Emotivism which claims that all concepts of morality are really nothing more than emotional reactions. Emotions are certainly not a weakness, but the problem with this is that it cannot then be used for any practical purposes. Morality has no use if we don't have some sort of Objective moral code/system to hold people and actions against; and the only way we can reach moral objectivity would be to do so logically. An example of why this code needs to be based on logic can be seen in one of the laws passed by one of the previous presidents in Malawi (I think it was Hastings Banda). The law made public kissing a jailable offence because the president at the time found kissing to be repulsive. In this case, we may find incest to be repulsive, but if it is consensual and between two adults then it causes no harm and therefore there is no logical reason to view it as immoral.

Thanks for explaining all of this. I find this subject fascinating but I haven't researched any of it in many years. I suppose the only way that emotions could be used for a practical purpose would be if the majority felt the same way about something, but logic should still play a larger role, in my opinion.

The rest of what I put in my last post to you was just a drunk rant against people who are so against the emotional value of anything. Cheers