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Hateren47

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Red Scharlach said:
oplinger said:
...Motherboards have absolutely nothing to do with the combo. Absolutely nothing. Let's help the guy out ;) not confuse him.
The motherboard needs to have the socket required by the CPU. When it comes to the GPU, I'll admit I'm not sure why it would be different for different makes. But when you shop for a motherboard you typically say which type of graphics card you want for it. I guess maybe there is some other reason than compatibility in that case.
The mainboard doesn't matter GPU wise if you're not planning on running 2 or more cards in SLI/CrossFire. A single (modern) videocard can go with any mainboard that has a PCI-E 2.0 x16 (the standard) connector. The only things that you have to be sure is compatible (for modern hardware again) with the mainboard is CPU and RAM.
 

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oplinger said:
thiosk said:
Check out computer build websites. For instance, overclock.net is a great resource-- those people are super-tech oriented, so you won't need the full functionality they use.

Newegg.com for everything. DOn't buy current generation videocards unless you get them on sale, spending 100 to 120 is fine in general. Theres no real reason to drop 500 bucks on a top of the line dual gpu video card unless you are a serious business kind of guy.

also, nvidia + intel.
...Why nvidia+intel?

Nvidia used to have some advantages over ATI (like..PhysX, that no one really uses..) like th eindependent shader clock, but that's about gone now because ATI cards have so many streaming processors and so -much- general power, they can handle anything. Also if you threw a game with really large textures at an Nvidia card it's actually take longer for it to process the whole deal, as the shader clock becomes meaningless. Also with DX11, Nvidias specialness is really gone now.

And intel is functionally worse than AMD. Back in the early 90s yes intel was great, for one they lit on fire a lot less. However, now AMD is better for gaming and general purpose stuff, as AMD uses shorter pipelines. It does a little work -really- fast, and it's cheaper. Intel does a lot of work but slower, as the instructions need to go through the entire pipeline to be used. None of the architectural benefits of intel (like the i7) make any difference what so ever. In fact, intel is mostly just overpriced for branding, and people buy into it.
I generally agree here. AMD processors are pretty damn solid. The benefits you get from i7 in gaming are minimal at best. Core i7s do video compression a lot better than Phenom IIs but when it comes to gaming, it's just not worth the price.

Also, you have some great new cards coming out as we speak. The 6800 series is a great mid range card offering. If you choose to wait, you can get the 6900s for the high end. There's also nVidia's offerings that are coming out soon enough too.
 

Red Scharlach

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Hateren47 said:
The mainboard doesn't matter GPU wise if you're not planning on running 2 or more cards in SLI/CrossFire. *snip*
To me, that is pretty relevant and in my opinion it is best to mention to someone building a computer from scratch. After all, getting a second GPU as a later upgrade can improve your computer's performance a lot for a very low price. So, when choosing your motherboard it still makes sense to consider both CPU and GPU.
 

Hateren47

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Red Scharlach said:
Hateren47 said:
The mainboard doesn't matter GPU wise if you're not planning on running 2 or more cards in SLI/CrossFire. *snip*
To me, that is pretty relevant and in my opinion it is best to mention to someone building a computer from scratch. After all, getting a second GPU as a later upgrade can improve your computer's performance a lot for a very low price. So, when choosing your motherboard it still makes sense to consider both CPU and GPU.
You should have put it in your post then. Consider my post a clarification then, as I replied to what you wrote and not what you meant.

Sidenote, AMD cards can run CrossFire on SLI boards if you have a hacked driver. Not sure if Nvidia cards can run SLI on CF boards though. Technically there aren't any problems except from the fake limitations. Basically it's the whole PhysX licensing thing over again.
 

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onda said:
I'm gonna build a gaming PC, and would like a good tut. I found this (http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-build-a-pc-computer-a-modern-guide/) but it only tells me that I need to choose my parts, and doesn't really help much with the actual choosing. Something like the graphics card chooser at the nvidia site would be perfect, but probably non existent. To be clear I don't just want a site saying, buy this, that and that, but something with reviews of pretty much everything.
The best thing you can to is go to computer forums, post your budget and requirement, if its a good forum you'll get good build suggestions and good advice.