California Gay Marriage Ban Lifted

[Furious Styles]

i am. i think the guy you quoted said that democracy failed somehow and i said fail or not as long as they do the right thing, which is legalizing gay marriage

Yeah, I read your other posts not long after posting myself. They answered my question.

 

[Furious Styles]

Well I disagree with what the judge did, made thousands of votes invalid.

He didn't make the votes invalid, they started out that way.

Also, what do you mean "what the judge did?" What, doing his job? Following the constitution?

 

[zehydra]

I'm American, and while I generally dislike the Federal government telling the states what to do, I support this, as it was a breach of the constitution. Now, what's more important, is that people need to realize that any definition or tax breaks for marriage, by any government under the U.S. flag, is unconstitutional.

Unconstitutional.... not really, the constitution is more then the bill of rights and some of it is very clear that the federal government can levy taxes in whatever way it wishes. If they wanted to create a break they can write it into the tax code and it is constitutional. Now that whole 14th (I think that is the right one) amendment ensures it has to be a even and equal tax break and we can argue if the tax code is currently constitutional based on that but I think it is moot as the correct answer would be: UPDATE THE TAX CODE.

That has also been the ONLY say government has over gay marriage, the fact that the tax codes where not capable of dealing with the whole 'gay marrage' problem. In particular the decrease of revenue that would suddenly happen when we allow a whole group of people to get tax breaks. This is the only real reason the government could have against gay marriage, it isn't allowed to take a 'christian moral' stance or claim that certain people are 'less then others' for any reason... the only excuse the government has is financial....

Still the correct answer to this problem was to: UPDATE THE TAX CODE!

I know. The tax code needs MUCH revision, in my opinion.

 

[hardlymotivated]

9001GS - Fuck Yeah: Put a bigot in his place.

Is it your job to insult and correct everyone who may disagree with the homosexual lifestyle? From my experience, gays are rather looked down upon by mainstream society, so naturally, most people try to keep children away from homosexual influences.

First off, think of me as Batman. I pop in, deal justice and then pop out when I'm done. Second, you have limited experience. For that last sentence, I want you to replace homosexual with the word black or nergo (historical usage here) and realize you just made the same argument a racist would have in the 50s, 40s or before. Then I want you to realize you're insane.

It's a lifestyle that I disagree with. I don't hate the people who are homosexual, but the lifestyle is as repulsive to me as Goths, Emos, and Furries.

And what, exactly, do you define to be the "homosexual lifestyle"? Sincere question.

 

[hardlymotivated]

9001GS - Fuck Yeah: Put a bigot in his place.

Is it your job to insult and correct everyone who may disagree with the homosexual lifestyle? From my experience, gays are rather looked down upon by mainstream society, so naturally, most people try to keep children away from homosexual influences.

First off, think of me as Batman. I pop in, deal justice and then pop out when I'm done. Second, you have limited experience. For that last sentence, I want you to replace homosexual with the word black or nergo (historical usage here) and realize you just made the same argument a racist would have in the 50s, 40s or before. Then I want you to realize you're insane.

It's a lifestyle that I disagree with. I don't hate the people who are homosexual, but the lifestyle is as repulsive to me as Goths, Emos, and Furries.

Oh, hi Faux "News". There's no such thing as "the Homosexual Lifestyle".

...for the same reason that there's no such thing as a "black lifestyle" or a "white lifestyle". That's pretty much what I was trying to coax out from him with my earlier question.