California Marijuana Regulation Act of 2010

[AndyFromMonday]

California's at it again, people! This time, instead of taking rights away from people it's attempting to give some back.

NOTE: The number of the prop is 19.

You can find more information on the Wiki page
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19

The official "Yes on 19" website:
http://www.taxcannabis.org/

The official "No on 19" website:
http://www.STOPPROP19.com


Personally, I'd vote yes on Prop 19. Marijuana has done no harm to me or anyone else I know and from what I've seen there are A LOT of users. There's really no factual reason to not legalize it. All that I've seen up until now was fearmongering. I also support the legalization of all drugs on the basis that it should be a person's choice whether or not they want to use certain substances and not the states.

I couldn't find the actual "anti" legalization video but I have found some bloke who talks over it. If you don't mind that then here it is (You can skip past the talking and go directly to the actual vid):

 

[Ldude893]

It's as if my hometown of Hong Kong started to legalize Opium again. Bloody insane.

 

[silver wolf009]

Well i vaugley remember hearing that the damaging effects of Marijuana were lesser than that of alchol, so i really dont see why alchol is legal but marijuana isnt. I really dont care one way or the other because i dont live in california but im interested to see how this pans out.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

It's as if my hometown of Hong Kong started to legalize Opium again. Bloody insane.

Uhm... What?

 

[Vampire cat]

Well i vaugley remember hearing that the damaging effects of Marijuana were lesser than that of alchol, so i really dont see why alchol is legal but marijuana isnt. I really dont care one way or the other because i dont live in california but im interested to see how this pans out.

Uhm... Cause the already rich still proffit from alcohol =3.

I don't care what you do with yourself, if you can't cope without smoking stuff whatever. I'm not for any kind of smokables or drugs tho. But you people enjoy yourselfs, by all means =p

 

[Korolev]

I'm no fan of marijuana or any other type of recreational drug for that matter (unless you count caffeine). But it's about as harmful as beer - less harmful in fact, in many ways.

Yes, marijuana usage CAN lead to the development of mental illness in some people. But that's rare, and alcohol abuse can fry your brain badly as well. It's not as addictive as alcohol either. Yet Alcohol is legal because everyone drinks it and they just can't find a way to make people stop.

Same thing with Marijuana. I don't want to use it, nor do I approve of its use, but it's impossible to stop and if you are going to let people get wasted on Scotch and Whiskey, then you're a hypocrite if you don't let them use marijuana.

I think its legalization is inevitable, whether it happens in 2010, or in 2020 or even in 2030.

Yeah, you can argue that Marijuana usage, over decades of use, can damage short-term memory. You can argue that it is a gate-way drug. You can argue that if you legalize it, it will result in harder drugs being legalized. But all these arguments were used against alcohol back during the Prohibition era.

I know how bad drugs are - ice is a terrible, awful drug, much worse than just about anything else out there. Heroin and coke are just as bad and they are frighteningly addictive and lead to crime. But not all drugs are the same. If you want to get technical, Alcohol is a drug. Yep, it alters mood, impairs thought and concentration, is harmful to the body and it is addictive and can lead to crime and violence.

I've seen people get drunk and bash random citizens on the street. I haven't heard of a marijuana user doing the same. While I think both are bad, if you're going to legalize one, then it makes no sense not to legalize the other. Especially since legalizing marijuana will lead to a decrease in the profits of criminal enterprises and gangs.

But reactionaries and politicians are not known for being logical - only dogmatic. For them to suddenly back down on marijuana usage would make them look weak and stupid (in their minds) and so they go on and on about the "dangers" of marijuana use (which are real) while totally ignoring the dangers of alcohol use.

It's due to fear - right-wing politicians have to appeal to the religious base who will never EVER accept marijuana use on principle (remember, it was the fundamentalist christians who led the crusade against alcohol and indeed, many still want to ban the drink). To the right-wingers, marijuana might as well be the devil itself.

But these sorts of people are in the minority. They couldn't stop alcohol use, they won't be able to stop marijuana use.

But the government of the US must be emptying its bowls in terror at the prospect of legalizing marijuana - especially since they've imprisoned a hell of a lot of people for using it. They could be faced with a VERY BIG LAWSUIT if this proposition passes.

 

[GrimTuesday]

Hail mother fucking science... cause that sounds like a well thought out and intelligent stance. Not that I disagree with what he said, in fact he brought up some good points, I just think that when you start swearing it tends to take away from the creditability of your argument.

 

[Macgyvercas]

California's at it again, people! This time, instead of taking rights away from people it's attempting to give some back.

NOTE: The number of the prop is 19.

You can find more information on the Wiki page
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19

The official "Yes on 19" website:
http://www.taxcannabis.org/

The official "No on 19" website:
Couldn't find it. If anybody does then either PM me or quote me and tell me the name of the web.


Personally, I'd vote yes on Prop 19. Marijuana has done no harm to me or anyone else I know and from what I've seen there are A LOT of users of it. There's really no factual reason to not legalize it. All that I've seen up until now was fearmongering. I also support the legalization of all drugs on the basis that it should be a person's choice whether or not they want to use certain substances and not the states.

I couldn't find the actual "anti" legalization video but I have found some bloke who talks over it. If you don't mind that then here it is (You can skip past the talking and go directly to the actual vid):

True. But there is a reason the government doesn't do it. It's because they have been saying for years that marijuana is bad and if they legalize it and say it has minimal (if any) health risks, they'd look stupid.

And I once did a report on why marijuana should be legal. I can't remember the exact figures, but if the government were to subsidize a marijuana industry, they could make a shit ton of money.

EDIT:

Well i vaugley remember hearing that the damaging effects of Marijuana were lesser than that of alchol, so i really dont see why alchol is legal but marijuana isnt. I really dont care one way or the other because i dont live in california but im interested to see how this pans out.

Marijuana is less dangerous for you than alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine, believe it or not.

 

[Player 2]

It's as if my hometown of Hong Kong started to legalize Opium again. Bloody insane.

Its nothing like that. Weed is completely non-toxic(no registered deaths from it ever) and nowhere near as addictive. The carcinogens people talk about are from the smoke not the substance and weed can be taken in other ways if your bothered about that. There is also the fact that the Mexican cartels just beneath the border mainly supply weed and so this would take a lot of money away from them, helping the Mexican government and taking crime away from the US border.

 

[Layz92]

Watch "Super High Me" if an American state makes something illegal it is still technically ilegal and the DEA can still nail you for possession in California even if it is made legal there. I think it is something like 1.4 billion dollars in taxes if you taxed marijuana. Also if you research marijuana it is EXTREMELY useful. The fibre is great, the seeds provide most of the nutrients the body requires, the biomass can be turned into biodiesel and many other uses. I am very much in favour if it being legalised even if I won't smoke it. I used to be against it before I did some research. I could do the full list of benefits but I really can't be assed since it is stupid trying to change people's mind on stuff like this.

Edit: Double checked, it was 12 billion in 2006

 

[Thedayrecker]

The official "No on 19" website:
Couldn't find it. If anybody does then either PM me or quote me and tell me the name of the web.

Lol.... couldn't find one.

OT: Yay Prop 19!

Boo the fact that I live in Florida.

 

[Branches]

Being from California, and being from the Bay, I can say freely that whether or not this passes means hardly anything. The sheer amount being passed from person to person on a social basis makes the law obsolete in most circumstances.

Legalize it, don't. Don't really matter. There'll be more districts who vote it down then vote it up. Most CA'ians don't realize that there is a huge Republican Base outside of LA, SD, and SF.

 

[Danzaivar]

Good luck. It won't pass tho, too many vested interests.

 

[Funkysandwich]

If you look into it, it's about finding something new to tax so that California can decrease their state debt.

Makes economic sense.

 

[RaffB]

I believe this video needs to be posted..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZqYV9KKOZQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Well i vaugley remember hearing that the damaging effects of Marijuana were lesser than that of alchol, so i really dont see why alchol is legal but marijuana isnt.

Fix. Your. Grammar.

Also, alcohol sales generate tons of revenue for the government through taxes. Same reason cigarettes are still legal.

 

[Timotei]

The government has almost no inclination to make marijuana legal. The only time they ever would is if the state ran its own dispensaries, in which case they'd make sure they had a horizontal and vertical monopoly before doing so.

 

[LWS666]

hopefully this starts something, as i'm not in america.

marijuana should be legal, or smoking and drinking should be illegal. although smoking may aswell be illegal, atleast in britain, i'm not sure about americas laws.

 

[Emperor Platypus]

I seem to have an awfully 'Turian' view on drugs and their users.

If you can us them without causing problems for society or stop contributing to society. Then knock yourself out.

The moment you become a drain though, wel let's just say that action will have to be taken.