California Marijuana Regulation Act of 2010

[Dungus]

Although I would fully support the regulation act, as I am a marihuana user myself, I think there is some work to be done on both sides of the argument. On the side of the no-voters, I'm hearing a lot of hypocritical arguments and statements that just aren't true, or at least not completely. While on the side of the yes-voters, I'm sensing a lot of nonchalance, like the dude in the video who explains he drove under the influence and "nothing happened so it's okay". Or like I've seen some people say; "every drug should be legal cause its my choice what I want to do with my body". That's at least as stupid of an argument like saying weed causes 50-70% more cancer-causing, which it is obviously not.

The efforts being made to make people vote no are really mind-blowing to me. I cannot understand how people watching the ad the dude in the video talks about could be bought, but I'm 99.99% sure Prop 19 won't pass.

I keep forgetting most people are narrow-minded, especially when it comes to drugs (think of the children!). On the other hand, the fact that people are now able to vote on the subject is definitely a step forward already.

The polls, at the moment, suggest that it's going to pass.

Also, two points;

1) Why do you think the view that every drug should be legalised is stupid? Myself, I don't think that every drug should legalised, but it should be judged on addictiveness rather than danger. It all comes down to personal control. If you're constantly taking marijuana or ecstasy or other non-addictive drugs, then you're still in control of yourself. However, in the depth of a heroin addiction, you no longer want to take the drug but rather need to take it. This is where I think the boundaries for where politicians can ban a substance should come in.

2) Driving under the influence of marijuana. I know you'll probably view this as an outright lie, however, I, along with most of my friends, have driven stoned and there has not been one accident, not even nearly one. Everytime I drive stoned i'm fully attentive and safe, I drive more slowly than I do when i'm sober. Now i'm not saying "everybody spark-up and drive, it's ok!" But the stigma attached to driving when high is pretty unfounded, in my own experience.

Whatever the polls might say, it's not empirical data. It's a fraction of the public's opinion, which doesn't say anything. Anyways, I completely agree with you. When talking about legalizing all drugs, I meant some posts here I saw earlier. Someone was saying everything should be legalized, including heroine and other drugs that make you physically dependent "because I can do what I want to my body". I would have nothing against the legislation of acid or xtc, only drugs that would make you a danger against yourself or society.

I also agree with your second point. I just meant that it's really not an argument helping legalizing marihuana. I've driven stoned a lot of times, mostly at night (but I never drink and drive) and I have also never had any accident. I know I am capable to drive while high, but still, it's illegal to drive under the influence. It should be, theres a lot of incompetent drivers on the road already, who are sober.

 

[johnsom]

Here is my drop in the internet bucket. First, marijuana never was and never will be a danger to anyone anywhere. In the case of overuse I blame the person not the plant. Second, there is a long history of bigotry and misinformation surrounding the use of marijuana. Marijuana was largely popular amongst minorities. The current political party in power needed a new scapegoat to win votes. What better then a plant no one has heard of and fear of brown people running amok. Third, I do believe the control of so called heavy drugs is a must, but to lump in a thing like marijuana in with opium, heroin, and meth is a serious mistake. In the realm of drug use its like comparing a Thanksgiving dinner(Endorphin release on a massive scale) to a turkey sandwich.

 

[THEfog101]

Yes its effects are both "fun" and "Surreal" but if you need drugs to make your life fun you seriously need to take a long hard look at your life.

Over 60% of people drink alcohol.

True True.... ill pay that. Good point By the way.

Ummm i dont know about you guys but im pretty sure weed is about as addicting as it gets, ive seen so many of my friends ruin there lives by smoking weed, getting addicted, blowing all there money, weed loses its effects on them so they look for another fix using another drug and ruin their lives, also there is a slight chance that when Smoking Compounds that contain tetrahydrocannabino for prolonged periods that individual (males only) bare a chance of sterility.

Well first of all, you're wrong. Your friends may have been douchebags who couldn't handle their drug, but most people can. They should have asked for help, like people with gambling addictions, video-game addictions or coca-cola addictions do.

As for sterility; just like in 'Community', when Troy found a giant ass cookie and tried to eat it whole, he found out that too much of a good thing is always a bad thing. Maybe if he had eaten 10 more of those giant cookies, he would have been steril too. It's really sad you need a rather silly metaphor to have this explained to you.

Yes its effects are both "fun" and "Surreal" but if you need drugs to make your life fun you seriously need to take a long hard look at your life.

So basically, what you are saying is that if you need something recreational, like a video-game (gasp) you're not living life to it's fullest. Based on that logic, you should be locked up in a 3 square feet dark box with one tube for water, and one tube for tasteless food. This would keep you alive and on your terms you should be living life to "tha max".

If the druggies on here actually settled down before raging im saying that if you are relying on drugs to make your life WOTHWHILE THEN you need to take a good hard long look at your life, honestly if you can control yourself and use it recreationally good for you. im not judging other people or telling them what to do, honestly I dont give a fuck about what you do with your life cause its exactly that 'YOUR LIFE' im just saying keep it in mind before blowing your top and having a blast rage.

Yes its effects are both "fun" and "Surreal" but if you need drugs to make your life fun you seriously need to take a long hard look at your life.

So fucking what? take a look at your own life and stop thinking others need saving. If you need to control other peoples' actions to validate your own then you need to take a long hard look at your own. The arguments for proposition 19 vastly outweigh those against, it's hardly even an argument now.

You know the reason I actually bothered to come back and reply to this ancient thread was your post, YOU SIR ARE A IDIOT. I dont need to validate my own actions cause I follow my own path, im not arguing on a political level (Proposition 19) because I dont involve myself in the conundrums of politics cause its effect on me over here in aus is shit-all. Go have your fun with drugs for all I care, you know your the sort of person which re-iterates in me that some people are just absolute tools that speak before thinking. Every one has a choice and im not demanding that people follow my word (heck I dont even care if you forget it the moment you read it) and travel with me into the promised land cause that would be philosophical bullshit and worthy of pondering upon. I hope that one day you wake up to yourself and stop attacking others out of defensive rage cause ill tell you what, one day somebody is going to come back on you and mate you will regret it.