Halo 3 being even more overrated and less deserving of praise than COD4 does not mean that COD4 is not also overhyped. People say that Infinity Ward showed everyone how to do a game on the PS3 right, what they do not tell you is that when the game came out there was and apparently still is no way to add people you met online through the game itself. Nor did the players you met appear in the players met list in the main interface for the ps3. How is that "showing people how to do a port?" Hell just talking about making the graphics and gameplay work properly Team Ninja already showed people how to do a port when they released Ninja Gaiden Sigma AGES before COD4 came out!Jagdedge said:
Call of duty 4: MF overrated?
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I don't know about that. When I first began CoD4, I was up against level 30-50 players. Don't tell me that doesn't completely destroy your Kill/death ratio.REDPill357 said:
If you want to kill noobs, go ahead, but I'd rather be placed against players of equal skill.
Overrated like everything is a subjective term, its requires someone rate the game on an arbitary scale then you play the game and find their rating too high. Me I think it is (playing it on my PC btw) mainly because I hate games with infinite/respawning enemies. My house m8 (playing on his 360) found it to be the best game he'd played since Gears of War. For him its clearly not overrated.
I do sometimes feel that some people deliberatly avoid dicussion of many of the games flaws while only to happy to point out the flaws in other games: Classic examples being Halo 3 and Crysis. But when I point these flaws out in CoD4 to me house mate he rightly says 'Yeah I know but I dont care' Its pretty obvious to most people that CoD4 is a far from perfect game, the difference is did you like it regardless OR did it ruin it for you. If your the former the reviews are probably spot on, otherwise its overrated.
I do sometimes feel that some people deliberatly avoid dicussion of many of the games flaws while only to happy to point out the flaws in other games: Classic examples being Halo 3 and Crysis. But when I point these flaws out in CoD4 to me house mate he rightly says 'Yeah I know but I dont care' Its pretty obvious to most people that CoD4 is a far from perfect game, the difference is did you like it regardless OR did it ruin it for you. If your the former the reviews are probably spot on, otherwise its overrated.
It's CoD in the close-to-modern warfare. CoD was good and popular but the guns were bad, no imagine if they made the guns GOOD? They are fun to use, moreso then the BF series. And CoD is focused on infantry play. Custom classes are good as well, it woulda been a slightly above average game with that but then experience gaining? makes it alot more continuous play value. BF2 has it but it's just not as fun with the jerkiness :\
CoD4 is a good shooter, is it a life changing super experience that you'll be wanking over for days to come. No, but it never claimed to be such a game like oh I dont know...Halo 3. It never said its Single Player was going to be something so epic that it would literally change your life and you would be telling your grand children about it like oh I dont know...Halo 3, and lastly it did'nt say Multiplayer would be so awesome that you would miss the birth of your first child due its addictivness like oh I dont know...Halo 3.
CoD4 was'nt overhyped by the developers it was overhyped by the gamers and reviewers. Its nothing spectacular but its a decent enough shooter which does deliver what it promises, I dont know what people where actually expecting with this game besides gun, shoot, kill. It is an FPS after all and people ***** about the Multiplayer game modes being ripoffs of Team Deathmatch and CTF, but seriously what else is there? The ranking system is decent, the perks add a nice level of customization without unbalancing the game and the weapons are'nt overpowered to the point where you simply cant touch higher level players. There are plenty of reasons not to like CoD4, but dont go around saying "Thz game iz shit coz it woz overhypD" just becuase this game has been hyped does'nt mean its bad and I personally think anyone who buys into hype in todays gaming market deserves to be bitterly dissapointed.
CoD4 was'nt overhyped by the developers it was overhyped by the gamers and reviewers. Its nothing spectacular but its a decent enough shooter which does deliver what it promises, I dont know what people where actually expecting with this game besides gun, shoot, kill. It is an FPS after all and people ***** about the Multiplayer game modes being ripoffs of Team Deathmatch and CTF, but seriously what else is there? The ranking system is decent, the perks add a nice level of customization without unbalancing the game and the weapons are'nt overpowered to the point where you simply cant touch higher level players. There are plenty of reasons not to like CoD4, but dont go around saying "Thz game iz shit coz it woz overhypD" just becuase this game has been hyped does'nt mean its bad and I personally think anyone who buys into hype in todays gaming market deserves to be bitterly dissapointed.
many of the higher up weapons in the game are actualy worse than the weapons you start with such as the MP44, there is only 1 weapon which is attained at high levels that i would condsider a lot better than others in its class and thats the P90. As you start with perks like stopping power its easy for new players to compete character wise to players which have everything. I have seen many level 5 etc score higher up than people ranked a lot higher than themshadow skill said:
To COD4's credit it was something really different when it comes to Call of Duty games since they have become synonymous with WWII. It was something the franchise desperately needed.
IF CoD 4 Is over rated, then Halo 3, BF 2, CS:S, and every FPS ever made have to fall into the same category. They are all rip offs of one another and they are all (For the most part) Fun as Hell to play. So until someone comes out with a "Truly Original" FPS they will all be over rated
I find it useful to approach everything with complete and utter pessimism, so when something does turn out to be better-than-average, I'm pleasently surprised.
It's not the game that overhypes itself (ok Halo 3 did) but the players, and so you're really setting yourself up for a drop, not the game.
It's not the game that overhypes itself (ok Halo 3 did) but the players, and so you're really setting yourself up for a drop, not the game.
without crawling through 2 pages of rants and praises, i, for i like cod4, would like to point out some of the things that may be what makes it so popular/high-rated.
- it runs smoothly even on low-mid-end machines
- that is because of an insanely overclocked quake3 engine, which is only described as a "self-developed 3d engine" by IW, which is awesome and disturbing at the same time
- the multiplayer is pretty balanced, except for the p90.
- there's a variety of gamemodes in multiplayer
- the maps are - not counting 2 exceptions - all nicely designed and dont get boring even after... lets just say many hours of online gaming.
- the ingamebrowser doesnt suck that much ass. eventhough the filtering options pretty much do.
- the singleplayer is fast-paced, well narrated and, depending on the difficulty, easy, challenging or plain suicide.
- first fps for a long time that got my heartrate that high without having casper-the-not-so-friendly-ghost elements
- the singleplayer is rather short. maybe thats my many people think: "hey, i want more for my money" and switch to multiplayer. where they stay. looooong. even many of the -im not playing cod4- cod2 players
- the arcademode. perfect aim training. (im a multiplayer guy, as you may have noticed)
- you can kill terrorist for once, not the same soupnazi again and again.
- it features jamie heynemann disguised as captian price!
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just wanting to point out that the perk system is a nice-to-have but completely irresponsible for who kicks whom in the knickers.
tactics and a silenced pistol are deadlier than a snipermachinegunflamethrower - in the right hands.
- it runs smoothly even on low-mid-end machines
- that is because of an insanely overclocked quake3 engine, which is only described as a "self-developed 3d engine" by IW, which is awesome and disturbing at the same time
- the multiplayer is pretty balanced, except for the p90.
- there's a variety of gamemodes in multiplayer
- the maps are - not counting 2 exceptions - all nicely designed and dont get boring even after... lets just say many hours of online gaming.
- the ingamebrowser doesnt suck that much ass. eventhough the filtering options pretty much do.
- the singleplayer is fast-paced, well narrated and, depending on the difficulty, easy, challenging or plain suicide.
- first fps for a long time that got my heartrate that high without having casper-the-not-so-friendly-ghost elements
- the singleplayer is rather short. maybe thats my many people think: "hey, i want more for my money" and switch to multiplayer. where they stay. looooong. even many of the -im not playing cod4- cod2 players
- the arcademode. perfect aim training. (im a multiplayer guy, as you may have noticed)
- you can kill terrorist for once, not the same soupnazi again and again.
- it features jamie heynemann disguised as captian price!
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just wanting to point out that the perk system is a nice-to-have but completely irresponsible for who kicks whom in the knickers.
tactics and a silenced pistol are deadlier than a snipermachinegunflamethrower - in the right hands.
Clearly you haven't actually played the game, the smallest handgun you can carry is 45 mm... It's a good game, it deserves the praise it gets. It doesn't do anything too new and original, but everything it does, it does very well. Over rated would mean reviewers gave it a higher score than the end users did. If you're complaining that too many people like it, that's a different issue, and I might add a personal one.ratix2 said:
EDIT: I also keep noticing that people are bitching about starting out in games with higher level players. Yes, they have unlocked a lot of material you haven't. Yes, some of it is helpful (though not very much). No, it is not the deciding factor in why you're getting a terrible k/d ratio.
You've just joined into a game at level one, perhaps even after having played the single player. You are getting absolutely punished, why? Because everyone in the room has played the multiplayer for hours upon hours longer than you. Their equipment is a minimal factor in deciding the outcome, most of the time you're likely going to be fragged to death, shot in the back, sniped, or knifed because you just don't know better about where to stand. Once you play a little this will change, or you really just shouldn't play first person shooters (it has nothing to do with CoD4 in specific). It took me about 2000 deaths before my kills caught up and I had a better than 1:1 ratio. That's certainly not an extraordinary achievement, but it shows an average person can obtain it.
Now to show that the better equipment has little effect... As you play with a specific gun you unlock mods for it. It will get slightly better and you may even have a bit of an edge. If you had a better than 1:1 k:d ratio, it might even improve somewhat. However, if you switch to a newly unlocked gun, it has no mods and likely is worse at base level than the m16 (since the m16 is probably the best rounded gun in the game and you start with it). With this new gun and no mods, you will probably still have a better than 1:1 k/d ratio. Why? Because you're more skillful now, the mods have very little to do with it. Don't get me wrong, the mods help, but if you suck without them, you're still going to suck with them and vice versa.
As for the p90 being over powered... Yes, it's a great close quarters gun. Yes, the mp5 blows huge chunks and there are no good guns at base level with a high rate of fire in my opinion. No, you don't have to wait until the p90 to have a good close quarters gun, honestly the ak74u is actually better than the p90 (it does tons more damage and if you're at close rage the accuracy is negligible). I have to admit though, until you unlock that one, you're going to get beaten around on close quarters maps if you try to play up front in the action. If you want to keep a good k/d ratio level up with the m16 first at medium to long range instead. It's way more accurate, and works well at all ranges once you're good with it.
I don't understand why everyone is saying that CoD4 is getting praise it didn't deserve. Bioshock won most GoTY awards. And that had its issues. Why isn't there a thread saying Bioshock is overrated?
And why is everyone saying Halo 3 deserves the praise it has gotten but CoD4 should be frowned upon because people think its good. WTF I don't understand this argument at all.
And why is everyone saying Halo 3 deserves the praise it has gotten but CoD4 should be frowned upon because people think its good. WTF I don't understand this argument at all.
Bioshock was not really very good either IMO. I found it to be incredibly boring and just decided to uninstall it from my pc. I've played another game that had a better story, and did the whole powers thing much better than Bioshock but most people don't seem to like it at all. Though I will say that in the case of Advent Rising the story started to fall apart at the end.
I agree with that big time!nilpferdkoenig said:
The only things I compare from 2 almost different games is the "Fun Factor". Sure its subjective, but hey, its probably the best way to get 2 games that have little to no correlation with each other. I find CoD4 fun, I dont find Halo 3 fun. I find WoW fun, I dont find NWN fun. I find Sam & Max fun, I dont find Sherlock Holmes vs Arsene Lupin fun.
Games are there for us to have fun. If we're not having fun, then there is something wrong. Sure, a game may have its flaws, but if I'm still enjoying it, I dont care. So you guys can complain all you want about CoD4 being over-hyped, because I'm going to play CoD4 again because I LIKE IT!
Whether you like a game has nothing to do with whether or not it is over or even underhyped. There have been plenty of games that were indeed solid that were/are overhyped; (COD4, Heavenly Sword) as well as games that were/are underhyped (Folklore,Crackdown,Overlord.) that were solid games.