Call of Duty belongs in WW2. This "Modern" "Black opps " stuff is more Bond than it needs to be.

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hobo49

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Ok This is begging to be ripped on but Im going to go there.

Back in the days of Cod 2 it focused more on big battles. I mean yes it was WW2, and at that time throwing X number of men at an objective worked ....sometimes. But that was possibly the most fun I've ever had in any call of duty game. This whole sneaking around and depending on the newest tec to survive gets olds pretty quickly, I mean killing a certian cubian after breaking into his house is more James Bond like thank Cod should go. It needs to revert to ye olde grab your M1 Garand rush into some village/forset/ desert/ tundra with a group of semi intelligent AI and work through each building as someone from that time period would have. Like come on World at War you actually think their going to just give anyone the ability to call in dogs or a "spyplane" or shelling on command. I get the new tec ideas and how they are all fancy like but its just not fun anymore to have that crushing advantage aganst people.
 

Ekonk

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I liked Modern Warfare eins the most, because of its stealthy bits.

It seems our opinions differ.
 

Prometherion

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I liked the historical based missions in the pre mw2 Call of dutys. Even CoD 4 was not overly over the top really.

But after ive snowmobiled over a chasm or halucinated that ive killed JFK then yeah, spectacle has taken over CoD. I wish i felt like i was on a great military expediation as opposed to super secret agent man.
 

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I too agree that the best campaign was CoD 2's. Still, if every CoD up to this point were all set in WW2, it would be incredibly boring by now; there is not much more they can do with it. I see CoD 2 as the pinnacle of WW2 shooters, as I don't see how they can improve it.
 

Terminate421

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I like using an M16, my favorite gun in existence thank you.

BUT

COD2 does have a place in my heart, I always loved the stalingrad levels.
 

Carter0108

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World war 2 died out long ago. No one cares about it anymore. Modern is so much better. New guns and new stories as apposed to "yay let's use the THOMPSON AGAIN and fight nazis!"
 

Brawndo

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A modern setting can be done right. COD 4 and MW2 had a lot of good levels with large battles.

But I agree, I don't care much for the recent shift from large battles with expendable NPC allies to Black Ops' "invincible squad" a la Gears of War or Bad Company 2. In Black Ops there is only one level that I can think of with large, pitched battles and lots of causalities on both sides: the prison riot at Vorkuta. Most of the rest of the game is you and the Wolverine-healing GI Joes slaughtering waves of Russians
 

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There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.
 

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The main problem with keeping CoD in WW2 is that WW2 has been done. Many times. As Carter0108 said, there's only so many times you can fight the same enemy in the same locales with the same guns. The way I see it, if not for the Modern Warfare storyline, CoD wouldn't have continued as a series. Variety is necessary to keep an experience fresh.

Granted, I do think they're getting a bit out of hand with all this cinematic stuff and kind of wish that if they want to make a completely balls-to-the-wall, all-in, over-the-top kind of game that they actually come out with that sci-fi CoD we've been hearing rumors about...
 

Brawndo

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Tdc2182 said:
There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.
I disagree. There are many theatres of WWII that have never been touched by games. I would love to see a tactical shooter or strategy game based on partisans in Yugoslavia and Ukraine. Or how about a game about The Winter War between Finland and the USSR? That war spanned real-life action heroes like Simo Hayha, who has confirmed kills of the kind you would see in the average FPS. Imagine skiing to the front lines and then frantically digging a trench in the snow and holding back Soviet human wave attacks (like what really happened).

And these are just two examples. There is also much to take from the Japanese invasion of China, battles in the Middle East and Africa, ANZAC expeditionary campaigns, etc etc


Reading material:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
 

Tdc2182

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Brawndo said:
Tdc2182 said:
There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.
I disagree. There are many theatres of WWII that have never been touched by games. I would love to see a tactical shooter or strategy game based on partisans in Yugoslavia and Ukraine. Or how about a game about The Winter War between Finland and the USSR? That war spanned real-life action heroes like Simo Hayha, who has confirmed kills of the kind you would see in the average FPS. Imagine skiing to the front lines and then frantically digging a trench in the snow and holding back Soviet human wave attacks (like what really happened).
Simo Hayha received nearly all of his kills by a tree in the middle of nowhere. It wouldn't make very interesting gameplay material.

Its just all been done. CoD has expanded through World War 2 about 6 times, covering nearly every significant part of the war. The gameplay has all been covered; tanks, planes, trenches, snipers, boats.

There just isn't anything else.
 

GWarface

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Im in for getting the WW2 games back..
I think the argument that most battles in WW2 is already done is a little flawed...

What about, lets say, the resistance groups all over Europe.. I bet there would be some pretty epic battles there to be made into a game.. I have always wanted a game that mixes the old MoH with Hitman thats set in the Danish Resistance in that time..

And what about a game thats set in Poland doing the first german invasions? Sure they got invaded and pinned down, but that just makes room for interesting plots about your survival and teaming up with e.g resistance groups..

Or a game set in Finland doing the Soviet attacks, that one hasnt been done either i think...

Yes, all the big battles has been done, primarily from the American side (/spit), but thats not all that was to that war...
 

The Wykydtron

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I would give it a chance if they let you play as the Germans in WW2 otherwise no more CoD for me

Then again this is Activison we're talking about so it would never happen.
 

Raziel_Likes_Souls

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Tdc2182 said:
Brawndo said:
Tdc2182 said:
There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.
I disagree. There are many theatres of WWII that have never been touched by games. I would love to see a tactical shooter or strategy game based on partisans in Yugoslavia and Ukraine. Or how about a game about The Winter War between Finland and the USSR? That war spanned real-life action heroes like Simo Hayha, who has confirmed kills of the kind you would see in the average FPS. Imagine skiing to the front lines and then frantically digging a trench in the snow and holding back Soviet human wave attacks (like what really happened).
Simo Hayha received nearly all of his kills by a tree in the middle of nowhere. It wouldn't make very interesting gameplay material.
It'd probably appeal to the quick scopers though.

Still. Yeah, Modern setting is good, but the Bond style crap of assassinating Fidel's stand was a bit too much.
 

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While I do agree that the earlier Call of Dutys are masterpieces (3 was my least favorite and that was still a pretty awesome game), unless they're going to focus on some lesser known parts of the way (like maybe the French Resistance or the Scandinavian countries), WW2 has been played out. I mean how many more times can we shoot Nazis in the face before we start setting them against the Borg or something (Actually that would be fucking awesome, quick somebody make that)?