Call of Duty belongs in WW2. This "Modern" "Black opps " stuff is more Bond than it needs to be.

[Soviet Heavy]

I still want to see the battle against the Afrika Korps be represented thank you very much.

But of course the American campaigns are always SO much better than anything British or Canadian.

 

[HentMas]

Back in the days of Cod 2

hehehehehehehe

now you feel old

haha

ok, to the point, any game that doesnt "evolve" will become "obsolete" and forgotten

you may not like the new gameplay but its better to see something new, if it was the same COD2 gameplay you would probably be complaining that "ALL THE COD GAMES ARE THE SAME!!!"

also... WWII, seriously??? you want to go back there again???

and on a similar note, Nostalgia seems to be kicking you hard, just remember, ALL COD games have simmilar objectives and simmilar mechanics, and that same "stealth" and "relying on modern eq" is the very reason they keep making games, to scramble things a bit.

 

[Henrik Moeller]

America is ashamed of their role in the early part of world war 2 and you won't see an American produced game from the period.

 

[LogicNProportion]

I agree with you, my friend.

There's nothing like defending a hill with thousands of explosions going on around you, and tens of thousands of men charging where you're at. You have an M1 in hand, killing off one Nazi-sonnuvabitch at a time as you shoot into the grey mass of seething hatred and curses.

"PANTHER!" a man to your right shouts, before he bursts into a bloody mess of mixed appendages.

The screen fades out for a second, and your ears whistle angrily as your senses return, and the deadly environment around you becomes reality once more. Suddenly, the many angry soldiers charging at you is no longer your concern. It is now a mad dash for the bazooka...


...


Though I WILL say that Soap and Price are my favorite characters of the series.

 

[Dogstile]

A modern setting can be done right. COD 4 and MW2 had a lot of good levels with large battles.

But I agree, I don't care much for the recent shift from large battles with expendable NPC allies to Black Ops' "invincible squad" a la Gears of War or Bad Company 2. In Black Ops there is only one level that I can think of with large, pitched battles and lots of causalities on both sides: the prison riot at Vorkuta. Most of the rest of the game is you and the Wolverine-healing GI Joes slaughtering waves of Russians

If you pay close attention, in most cod games you normally have a sergeant who cannot die with you in the mission or infinitely spawning expendable allies. The only difference between the two is one of those options creates the option for a continual story and character development and the other creates fodder.

Edit: I bolded the bit I edited in case you want to make a point of me saying both games and not making any sense. I realised, its late and i'm tired, mistakes happen.

 

[ElTigreSantiago]

I don't agree that it should be WWII, but I do agree that the way Call of Duty is now is ridiculous. James Bond is a perfect example. Why can't they have a modern setting in Iraq or Afghanistan, with realistic soldiers and weapons. They should focus on the personality of real-life soldiers instead of this one-man-army bullshit.

 

[NewYork_Comedian]

I liked the historical based missions in the pre mw2 Call of dutys. Even CoD 4 was not overly over the top really.

But after ive snowmobiled over a chasm or halucinated that ive killed JFK then yeah, spectacle has taken over CoD. I wish i felt like i was on a great military expediation as opposed to super secret agent man.

Yeah, pretty much this. I mean [this is going to sound very harsh] did anyone else feel like Modern Warfare 2 didnt have a sole, that it was made just to add onto the Activisoin money pile? Then again, this is probably true considering they then immediately laid off the two leading guys at Infinity Ward right after it was released.

I didnt get the plot of MW2, it just made no sense for me, and i also agree with YZ that it was like some cold war wet dream fantasist wrote it.

EDIT: The thing now is, what the FPS genre now needs is good narrative.

Answer this for me:

Would you play another WW2 game, with similar content [and possibly the same settings] to COD 1, 2, 3, and WaW, MOH Airborne, Allied Assault, and Frontlines, ect. if it had as good a narrative [ story, characters, atmosphere, ect.] as Band of Brothers, Saving Pvt. Ryan, or The Pacific? I sure as hell would.

 

[Brawndo]

Im in for getting the WW2 games back..
I think the argument that most battles in WW2 is already done is a little flawed...

What about, lets say, the resistance groups all over Europe.. I bet there would be some pretty epic battles there to be made into a game.. I have always wanted a game that mixes the old MoH with Hitman thats set in the Danish Resistance in that time..

And what about a game thats set in Poland doing the first german invasions? Sure they got invaded and pinned down, but that just makes room for interesting plots about your survival and teaming up with e.g resistance groups..

Or a game set in Finland doing the Soviet attacks, that one hasnt been done either i think...

Yes, all the big battles has been done, primarily from the American side (/spit), but thats not all that was to that war...

Danish Resistance? It was mostly passive, like sabotaging work, smuggling refugees, or not cooperating with the German authorities. The real violent resistance movements were Polish, Yugoslav, Soviets in various Baltic states, and the French.

 

[KiKiweaky]

Well I was getting a bit bored with all the rehashes of ww2 conflicts. Though I do admit after playing cod2 and climing up onto the cliff, having to leg it back before ze germans kill you the other day made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

Modern warfare was just what the doctor orderred they are making more from games like this than most 'blockbuster' movies.... I wonder how much the programers make? Surely they arent getting 20 - 30 million per game they make.

 

[Fox242]

I think that the change that CoD4 brought was for the best. Even though CoD did WWII very well, it was a tired genre and was rapidly approaching stagnation and staleness. Yes there is over the top specatcle in the series now, but it is done very well. Times were changing and the series had to change with them.

 

[Flac00]

Ok This is begging to be ripped on but Im going to go there.

Back in the days of Cod 2 it focused more on big battles. I mean yes it was WW2, and at that time throwing X number of men at an objective worked ....sometimes. But that was possibly the most fun I've ever had in any call of duty game. This whole sneaking around and depending on the newest tec to survive gets olds pretty quickly, I mean killing a certian cubian after breaking into his house is more James Bond like thank Cod should go. It needs to revert to ye olde grab your M1 Garand rush into some village/forset/ desert/ tundra with a group of semi intelligent AI and work through each building as someone from that time period would have. Like come on World at War you actually think their going to just give anyone the ability to call in dogs or a "spyplane" or shelling on command. I get the new tec ideas and how they are all fancy like but its just not fun anymore to have that crushing advantage aganst people.

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I don't think that has to do with the time period, and more to do with the gameplay changing. It would still work if it was like Call of Duty 2 in modern day, I would find that fun. Plus, what modern day or future combat brings to the table are conflicts which we don't usually see in WW2 games.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I haven't really liked a Call of Duty Game since Modern Warfare, but I couldn't stand the last 3 for different reasons.

World at War was because of the Russian campaign. I didn't like anyone from that campaign, not Chernov, not Reznov, not even Dimitri and he was the only one who wasn't yelling in a stereotypical accent.

Modern Warfare 2 just completely butchered its single player. The battles weren't hetic so much as they were tedious and annoying. Not to mention that it was piss easy to beat without the monster closest spawning enemies.

Black Ops...well I have a number of reasons for hating Black Ops. The fact that they refused to keep to the correct setting, the stupid storyline, the reintroduction of characters that I hated (See World at War) and of course, its stereotypical representation of Vietnam. The War is Hell thing has always been Call of Duty's thing when it comes to this sort of stuff. The last thing I wanted to see is a shirtless solider getting out of a helicopter while CCR plays in the background. That stuff belongs in Forest Gump, not a CoD game.

Call of Duty can have a good time in modern times, but the series seems to be forgetting what made Modern Warfare so fun to play.

 

[Nouw]

There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.

I beg to differ, show me a game that has you playing as a Jewish freedom fighter or a person similar to Anne Frank.

I liked the historical based missions in the pre mw2 Call of dutys. Even CoD 4 was not overly over the top really.

But after ive snowmobiled over a chasm or halucinated that ive killed JFK then yeah, spectacle has taken over CoD. I wish i felt like i was on a great military expediation as opposed to super secret agent man.

Yeah, pretty much this. I mean [this is going to sound very harsh] did anyone else feel like Modern Warfare 2 didnt have a sole, that it was made just to add onto the Activisoin money pile? Then again, this is probably true considering they then immediately laid off the two leading guys at Infinity Ward right after it was released.

I didnt get the plot of MW2, it just made no sense for me, and i also agree with YZ that it was like some cold war wet dream fantasist wrote it.

EDIT: The thing now is, what the FPS genre now needs is good narrative.

Answer this for me:

Would you play another WW2 game, with similar content [and possibly the same settings] to COD 1, 2, 3, and WaW, MOH Airborne, Allied Assault, and Frontlines, ect. if it had as good a narrative [ story, characters, atmosphere, ect.] as Band of Brothers, Saving Pvt. Ryan, or The Pacific? I sure as hell would.

That game would be the best WW2 game ever. EVER!

 

[GWarface]

Im in for getting the WW2 games back..
I think the argument that most battles in WW2 is already done is a little flawed...

What about, lets say, the resistance groups all over Europe.. I bet there would be some pretty epic battles there to be made into a game.. I have always wanted a game that mixes the old MoH with Hitman thats set in the Danish Resistance in that time..

And what about a game thats set in Poland doing the first german invasions? Sure they got invaded and pinned down, but that just makes room for interesting plots about your survival and teaming up with e.g resistance groups..

Or a game set in Finland doing the Soviet attacks, that one hasnt been done either i think...

Yes, all the big battles has been done, primarily from the American side (/spit), but thats not all that was to that war...

Danish Resistance? It was mostly passive, like sabotaging work, smuggling refugees, or not cooperating with the German authorities. The real violent resistance movements were Polish, Yugoslav, Soviets in various Baltic states, and the French.

Exactly... I would love to play a game were you were doing those things, maybe not the thing with not cooperating with the germans, might be a little hard to code...
But the rest you mention would be some interesting game mechanics.. Could be a mighty fine stealth based game if you ask me.. Violence is not a must in every game you know...

 

[coldshadow]

kinda the way some other game series went. They could have and should have made it its own series but they used the known name to get a heads start. and it helped them in this case and didn't get any flak from it....unlike farcry 2 and Prince Of Persia

 

[Double A]

There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.

What about fights in Egypt, Ethiopia, or China? Sure, not all of them were "officially" WWII battles, just ones leading up to them, but I think they would be interesting. And you rarely get to see anything outside of a US or USSR soldier's eyes. Sometimes an Englishman fighting in Germany. But hardly never anyone else.

 

[Tdc2182]

There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.

I beg to differ, show me a game that has you playing as a Jewish freedom fighter or a person similar to Anne Frank.

Well, there was French Freedom fighter with that one game that kinda sorta failed hard. Can't recall what it was...

Oh right, The Saboteur. Wasn't too great.


Playing an Anne Frank FPS?

Well, I got nothin.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

World War 2 has been extremely overdone in games in this generation and last, to the point where I'm completely bored of it and i'm glad we are beginning to see a lot less games in a World War 2 setting. Lets wait until the next generation now shall we? More shiny graphics and possibilities for developers to work with, a fresh start; instead of redoing the same thing over and over.

 

[Tdc2182]

There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.

What about fights in Egypt, Ethiopia, or China? Sure, not all of them were "officially" WWII battles, just ones leading up to them, but I think they would be interesting. And you rarely get to see anything outside of a US or USSR soldier's eyes. Sometimes an Englishman fighting in Germany. But hardly never anyone else.

CoD 2 covered much of the Egypt Campaign.

The Ethiopia campaign wasn't exactly too eventful, but it hasn't exactly been done from what I can recall.

As for China? Nothing I can recall.

Its just the fact that the WW2 genre has gotten somewhat bland. If you can support a Covert operation gameplay from MI6, i'd be down.

Or like that "Great Escape" game that was seriously underplayed.