Call of Duty: Elite Could Make Similar Services "A Necessity"

[-Samurai-]

I also find it hilarious that many of the people harping on Activision for "charging for services that other games provide for free(which is incorrect)" are paying $50 a year for Xbox Live.

"You're getting fucked already so why not bend over and take some more"?
You wouldn't by any chance work in the marketing department

It's more along the lines of people saying "Elite is stupid and you pay for things you get for free from other games. Now let me me go pay to play online when I could be doing it for free.".

And people aren't getting "fucked". There are many other options out there, including not paying for the service, an option that people seem to forget exists.

 

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I also find it hilarious that many of the people harping on Activision for "charging for services that other games provide for free(which is incorrect)" are paying $50 a year for Xbox Live.

"You're getting fucked already so why not bend over and take some more"?
You wouldn't by any chance work in the marketing department

It's more along the lines of people saying "Elite is stupid and you pay for things you get for free from other games. Now let me me go pay to play online when I could be doing it for free.".

And people aren't getting "fucked". There are many other options out there, including not paying for the service, an option that people seem to forget exists.

Until the service gets mandatory because they conditioned their customers over the years so that they would buy a bag full of shit.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

The greed, it has no boundaries. This is insane. How much is enough for these guys? I mean, what the fuck are they doing with all that money? Last time I saw, they weren't improving the world in the slightest. Capitalist societies piss me off so much.
The worst thing is, most people will buy into this crap and pay for whatever they're offering.

 

[-Samurai-]

I also find it hilarious that many of the people harping on Activision for "charging for services that other games provide for free(which is incorrect)" are paying $50 a year for Xbox Live.

"You're getting fucked already so why not bend over and take some more"?
You wouldn't by any chance work in the marketing department

It's more along the lines of people saying "Elite is stupid and you pay for things you get for free from other games. Now let me me go pay to play online when I could be doing it for free.".

And people aren't getting "fucked". There are many other options out there, including not paying for the service, an option that people seem to forget exists.

Until the service gets mandatory because they conditioned their customers over the years so that they would buy a bag full of shit.

People aren't going to pay for a luxury they don't want. Why do people always forget that there is the option of not paying for the service? Gaming is a luxury, and you're free to stop paying for it anytime you wish. There is no such thing as a mandatory payment on a luxury item.

 

[Chesterfield Snapdragon McFisticuffs]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bungie do this for Halo?
I may be misunderstanding but it seems like a similar thing of being able to keep up with your stats, news and to connect with others. Bungie.net did that for free.
Not a good move when not only has it already been done but they did it for less.

Oh they did it for less than free? You mean Bungie paid you to use Bungie.net?
Please, you've got to try harder than that to conceal your hissing fanboyism.
I don't see anything wrong with CoD offering the services that Bungie did for free, and then adding EXTRA content to be paid for on top of that.
For the record, I'm not even buying MW3 this year but there seems to be more than enough perceived value in elite to justify purchase to a fan.

 

[leeprice133]

Bollocks to CoD, and bollocks to Battlefield 3. Anyone else not care? MW3 will be indistinguishable from the the first two nearly indistinguishable modern warfare games and I'm not expecting Battlefield to set the world on fire either. Both'll still sell of course...

 

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People aren't going to pay for a luxury they don't want. Why do people always forget that there is the option of not paying for the service? Gaming is a luxury, and you're free to stop paying for it anytime you wish. There is no such thing as a mandatory payment on a luxury item.

Sure, you could stop playing video games anytime or just play the older ones.

But why do you have to give in when they take more and more freedom from you and try to get money out of things that we took for granted some time ago.

And as I see it, if Activision is successful with its paid service because of all the sheeps who need a new fix of CoD we will see more services like this and maybe have to pay periodically to unlock portions of the games we bought.
So to speak the next level of payed DLC which gets shipped on the data medium.

 

[-Samurai-]

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People aren't going to pay for a luxury they don't want. Why do people always forget that there is the option of not paying for the service? Gaming is a luxury, and you're free to stop paying for it anytime you wish. There is no such thing as a mandatory payment on a luxury item.

Sure, you could stop playing video games anytime or just play the older ones.

But why do you have to give in when they take more and more freedom from you and try to get money out of things that we took for granted some time ago.

And as I see it, if Activision is successful with its paid service because of all the sheeps who need a new fix of CoD we will see more services like this and maybe have to pay periodically to unlock portions of the games we bought.
So to speak the next level of payed DLC which gets shipped with the data medium.

What freedom do you have when it comes to the luxury of gaming? You either buy their product on their terms, or you don't. That's exactly how it works with every single product in existence. If the Call of Duty Elite model becomes the industry standard(and I'm sure it will), you can choose not to participate. That's the only freedom you have. The freedom to not buy a product you're not going to be satisfied with.

Video games are not a right. The services provided by developers and publishers are not a right. You buying their product does not entitle you to more content. It doesn't entitle you to anything other than what you paid for, and what you pay for is decided by the developer and publisher. The only right you have is to decide wether or not you think that content is worth the price they set.

It doesn't matter what you think should be included. You make the decision to buy or not buy a product or service based on what it is, not on what you think it should be.

What it boils down to is; If you don't like the way they do business, don't be their customer. If you don't think their product or service is worth the price they set, don't buy it. But don't think for a second that you're entitled to anything more than what they're willing to give you, or anything more than what you paid for.

 

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People aren't going to pay for a luxury they don't want. Why do people always forget that there is the option of not paying for the service? Gaming is a luxury, and you're free to stop paying for it anytime you wish. There is no such thing as a mandatory payment on a luxury item.

Sure, you could stop playing video games anytime or just play the older ones.

But why do you have to give in when they take more and more freedom from you and try to get money out of things that we took for granted some time ago.

And as I see it, if Activision is successful with its paid service because of all the sheeps who need a new fix of CoD we will see more services like this and maybe have to pay periodically to unlock portions of the games we bought.
So to speak the next level of payed DLC which gets shipped with the data medium.

What freedom do you have when it comes to the luxury of gaming? You either buy their product on their terms, or you don't. That's exactly how it works with every single product in existence. If the Call of Duty Elite model becomes the industry standard(and I'm sure it will), you can choose not to participate. That's the only freedom you have. The freedom to not buy a product you're not going to be satisfied with.

Video games are not a right. The services provided by developers and publishers are not a right. You buying their product does not entitle you to more content. It doesn't entitle you to anything other than what you paid for, and what you pay for is decided by the developer and publisher. The only right you have is to decide wether or not you think that content is worth the price they set.

It doesn't matter what you think should be included. You make the decision to buy or not buy a product or service based on what it is, not on what you think it should be.

What it boils down to is; If you don't like the way they do business, don't be their customer. If you don't think their product or service is worth the price they set, don't buy it. But don't think for a second that you're entitled to anything more than what they're willing to give you, or anything more than what you paid for.

Well, I didn't buy any of the games who had restrictive/intrusive DRM and I don't participate in the DLC and micro-transaction madness, I just voice my general distaste for the direction the publishers take and the customers who are willing to support these schemes.

 

[AlphaEcho]

Hasn't Bungie.com been doing what Elite has been doing... for five years... with the exact same look... for free?

Actually it's been 7 years (Since Halo 2 in 2004). But since the Elite subscription includes the DLC most CoD fans buy anyway, it's not really that big of a deal. (IMO)

Mind you which company you are talking about, I bet you they will start releasing UBER AWSUM CONTNT N PRMUM MPS@!!@#!@$ for ten bucks each. Then the sheep will flock.

 

[Nico4]

You might be right, but you don't have to charge for it, god damn it.

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Hasn't Bungie.com been doing what Elite has been doing... for five years... with the exact same look... for free?

Actually it's been 7 years (Since Halo 2 in 2004). But since the Elite subscription includes the DLC most CoD fans buy anyway, it's not really that big of a deal. (IMO)

Mind you which company you are talking about, I bet you they will start releasing UBER AWSUM CONTNT N PRMUM MPS@!!@#!@$ for ten bucks each. Then the sheep will flock.

I'm sad to say you are probably correct. But for now, I was just talking about the service in it's current state. I too am quite sure that Activision will find a way to bungle it up and make it awful eventually. But as a model, I don't think it's the worst one people could look to for figuring out how to set up a service like this.

 

[GeorgW]

While I agree that these kind of services are nice and will probably be standard (and probably FB integrated, the horror), there's no way in hell I'm gonna pay $50 bucks for it...

 

[Traun]

Also I wouldn't put it past them to start calling map packs "expansion packs" and charging for them. Making stuff like gun packs DLC.

Oh please. What do you think Doom II was? Final Doom? Or Shadow of the Serpent Raiders for Heretic? Or everything past Megaman I until the 3D era?