Can anyone tell me whats wrong with Steam?

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TacticalAssassin1

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Offline mode has literally never worked for me.

Also, games being more expensive here in Australia than other places.

Then again, epic sales have made up for that.
It's a great piece of software.
 

kane.malakos

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Cheshire the Cat said:
I can not stand it simply because I will not pay money for a game without a disk, box and manual. Fuck your little online service!

But my main problem is obviously the Australasia tax. THQ had a special for Space Marine + DoW 1 & 2 + all expansions and races etc for $100 USD.
For Australasia it was $180 USD.
Lets compare what it should have been,

$100 USD
NZ: $120
AU: $95

With the tax

$180 USD
NZ: $217
AU: $172

For fucking data! Theres no shipping or anything, transferring data could not possibly cost that much extra. So not only do users get fucked out of their actual property but they get charge a huge, extra rape fee.
So fuck you Valve! I aint paying extra for your bullshit you rip off bastards.
Valve is legally required to sell games at around the same price as the brick-and-mortar stores in Australia. It sucks, but it's not exactly their fault.
 

Vault101

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well if you have low internet caps then dont actually expcet to be able to play games when you buy them...depending on how much internet you have
 

INF1NIT3 D00M

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Okay, for everyone who doesn't understand how the Offline Mode works, here's the down and dirty.
These are the Rules at least, as far as I've discerned them:
1) Thou Shalt Be Online Beforehand

2) Any game you want to play must be done updating. If it's updating when you switch to offline mode, you cannot play it because it cannot update.

3) Remember that games which use Steam Cloud for saves are no longer going to have saved games when you go offline. Also, any progress you make offline doesn't count towards any achievements, and will either overwrite or be overwritten by Steam Cloud when you go online. It depends from game to game so be careful and when in doubt just don't play it.

4)Some games will not play when in offline mode because they need to access Valve's servers for stuff. This could have a number of reasons, though that's not important really because the bottom line is that the game needs something from Valve's server that it's not able to get. This will most likely fix itself if you go back to step 1 and wait a bit. If this is unexpected internet blackout time, then my condolences to you.

5) Go to the login screen.

6) CHECK THE BOX THAT SAYS 'Remember Me' OR FORGET ABOUT OFFLINE MODE
-What this does is it saves your credentials. Steam connects to the master servers to gather your CD Keys. I mean, literally, it uses CD Keys. You can go into your program files and try to run the application '[game name here].exe' and it'll either take you to an install screen or ask you for your CD Key. Steam checks to see what CD Keys are associated with your account, gathers them, and when you run a game it plugs the CD Key in* and lets you play. The only other thing it does is the Steam Overlay. Everything else is the game as you would have it on disc.
- It is important to note that the credentials will not last forever. I've never personally been offline that long, but I've heard from a few people that the steam credentials, even when saved, are not saved forever.

7) Never, *ever* exit Steam or log out when you don't have access to the internet. Doing so wipes the stored user info, which means you just deleted your CD Keys. You'll have to log in again in order to get the CD Keys back, and that requires internet. You deserve to be without games if you disobey rule number 7.

8) Catastrophic Internet Loss causes everything to be sketchy, so play it by ear when you lose all your internets. Choosing to go offline may prompt you to log in again, meaning your stored info was just wiped. Not choosing to go offline may result in your games trying to connect to Valve Servers they can't reach and becoming unplayable. I believe that a window will pop up that has a bunch of text about not having connection and your options are "Retry" and "Start in Offline Mode". If you were smart and you told your computer to remember you, you may click "Start in Offline Mode" and you will be able to play the games that your computer has stored the CD Keys for.


And that's pretty much it. You have to be online before you can go offline. It's not that crazy when you think about it, since you have to be online to buy or download your games. At your login screen you MUST remember to click "Remember Me", so that it saves your identity to your hard drive. Then, even in the event of catastrophic internet loss, your computer still knows you and has your CD Keys. It will save this information for a limited time, but that time will be renewed when you go online. Your computer will attempt to automatically log in the account that it remembers every time you turn it on. If it can't access the internet, it uses the locally stored user info. If it can access the internet, it updates the stored user info when you log in.

*Key(s) refers to games which actually have CD Keys. Some games don't, and therefore if you can't run things through steam you may be able to just run them through your program files. There are generally few of these games, so as long as you follow all the above rules you won't see a difference and won't have to worry about file directories. Free to Play games don't have keys, but you're an idiot if you think you're going to play 'Champions ONLINE' while running Steam in offline mode.


PS. If you're a dirty cheating bastard, you can follow these rules to run LAN games with a single copy of a third party game**. Not that you should do that, because that would make you a cheap jerk. And also, I think that might kind of sort of be piracy, which is bad and that means that I cannot advocate it without a moderator besmirching my good internet name.
**Also, both computers need to have internet connections, be on the same network, and some game developers are smarter than you and will check for your account's online status and will turn off multiplayer portions when you run Steam in offline mode. So there's no guarantee that the workaround will work for you incorrigible tightwads.
 

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thedarkfreak said:
Mandatory patches is another complaint many have. Some patches break the game for some people, and they want the ability to roll back to an earlier patch so they can still play their game, instead of needing to wait for the next patch. The ability to choose whether or not to update would be nice, too.
patches are not mandatory, for any game you can turn of auto-patching which you would know if you but took 5 seconds to look into it before making your criticisms.

The only game I've experienced a mandatory patch for was updated via GFWL, and it was GFWL that was enforcing the patch install.

OT: Steam is great, but I sure wish I had an uncapped BB line :( i'm sitting on several games at the moment that I cant install because to do so would exceed my cap for the month, including Deux Ex HR.
 

VladG

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Steam isn't flawless. Some people have issues with it, like downloaded games not working, some people just don't like the idea. Personally I like Steam, and so do most people. The few who have a problem with it are simply more vocal that the majority who uses it, likes it, and find no reason to complain, so they keep quiet.

Origin on the other hand...
 

Zipa

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I don't see how saying you don't own the game is a steam issue, that applies to anything you click accept on the EULA for , install a game from disk and clicked accept? its the same thing you have merely bought a license to play the game.

And as for it slowing down computers, if you can't afford to run a 30MB program then you have way bigger issues than steam.
 

SammiYin

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I know a better way of fixing the "I can't play in offline mode" mess, Say "Fuck you" to steam, install the game onto your hard drive with an actual disc, and then you can play it whenever you want, without jumping through a selection of ridiculous hoops.
But of course, somehow developers get off on making me play it through Steam anyway...despite me paying for the game, installing it, and wanting to play it at my convenience, not my internet connections.
 

Henkie36

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They're too evil, because they bite off more then they can chew. Online store is fine up to a certain level, but when they start running the games, they start sucking. And when I bought my MW2 expansion packs, half of the maps didn't work.
 

Nopodop

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It's ridiculously difficult to use it with an extremely slow internet connection, but other than that, it's great.
 

babinro

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I hate that I've had trouble launching games that I just bought. I've never bought a disk based game and was unable to play it without first researching troubleshooting techniques online. This has happened to me several time on Steam.

I've got nothing else bad to say about Steam, the service is wonderful and single highhandedly shifted my gaming preference from console to PC and from disk to digital.
 

Mausthemighty

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Oh I don't hate Steam. I love it!
When it works...
If you've got no internet though or something's wrong with your connection with Steam, you can't play the games you got registered at Steam. One time I opted myself in for a beta in Steam and I couldn't get the program running again. The result was: every game I had on Steam was wiped from my hard disk! Fortunately all my savegames were intact, but I had to re-install everything...

Other than that, I love the ease you can buy new games at reduced prices, the tracking of achievements and the automatic patching!
 

Jake|Ranger

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Althought I've never bought a game online through steam before. I do like the auto updating and I think that having all the games in the one place is quite handy. I don't actually have any complaints about it at all.

The reason origin is probably getting hate at the moment is becuase of the whole "if you install this you give us permission to view everything you say and do on your computer and sell it to who ever we want if we feel like it" thing.
 

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MisterShine said:
You MUST log in once a month even when using offline mode, or your games will not launch.
Uh, I have gone longer than a month without playing and my games all still launch.
Where'd you hear that?
 

minimacker

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I love Steam.

Except for one, itty bitty tiny little thing. They seem to be convinced that $1 = 1?.

I hadn't bought anything in a while and I decided to look at the Skyrim pre-order and I noticed the price was 49,99 Euroes. Speaking with my buddy over in the U.S, he said that it cost 49,99 US Dollars.

Now the problem with this is that the dollar is weak at the moment, really weak. One Euro is about 1,44 Dollars. I calculated that if I were to buy Skyrim for 49,99? I would have to pay 72,04 US dollars.

And the reverse for my U.S bud, he'd pay only 34,68 Euroes.

Myuhupp.
 

Alphakirby

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FlashHero said:
Steam needs to work on it's offline mode and it's patching system..other then that it is perfectly fine and awesome.
Yeah,that sounds about right.
I hate having to be online because I turned on a beta option for Steam.
 

platinawolf

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minus_273c said:
platinawolf said:
Whats wrong with steam? Once you have above 200 games it starts being a tad unstable :p
News to me. I have 250+ and it still works fine.

I am lucky enough to have 2.5Mb broadband though (not steaming I know, but a lot better than many).

One thing I would like is the ability to split Steam across multiple drives without RAID'ing them.

But damn those sales.
Well, I do have a lil bit more than 250 games so ^^* But it might be a combination of 12 gig ram, amd cool and quiet and doing way to much at the same time ^^* I still love steam, even if it goes unstable at times (Once in a blue moon ^^*). Another problem with steam is that they are using the principle of 1 usd = 1 euro... Not very fun for us European customers. Thus any steamwork's game I'd rather just buy from impulse with much less cost ^^* (Small example, CoD2 MW is 39,99 euro at steam but 200 sek ($29.99) at impulse.
 

thedarkfreak

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Continuity said:
thedarkfreak said:
Mandatory patches is another complaint many have. Some patches break the game for some people, and they want the ability to roll back to an earlier patch so they can still play their game, instead of needing to wait for the next patch. The ability to choose whether or not to update would be nice, too.
patches are not mandatory, for any game you can turn of auto-patching which you would know if you but took 5 seconds to look into it before making your criticisms.

Yes, but it would be easier for the user if, when you tried to start a game, it would prompt you that a patch was ready for the game, and ask if you wanted to install it. If yes, continue like normal. If no, go ahead and let them play the game.

Also, there have been quite a few people saying that, when Steam updates itself, it sometimes resets settings like that, and starts auto-downloading patches again.