Can my friend be kicked out for this?

[Verlander]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Funded by the govt. + paid for by taxes

Where I come from, that's known as a state school. A public school in the UK is an independent secondary school funded by a combination of endowments, tuition fees and other non-governmental funding

 

[Funkysandwich]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Public schools in Australia are state run.

And very, very badly run.

 

[McPulse]

Um... Education is largely handled by the state, so I can't really help you there (I'm in QLD), but your school should have a set of 'guidelines and expectations' or some crap like that. Any grounds for expulsion must be listed in there, otherwise the only grounds for expulsion are illegal activities as outlined by state legislation. It may well be that 'ignoring the councilor' is grounds for expulsion at your school, so the best way to fight this is to point out to the school administration that s/he isn't doing his/her job and is engaging in neglectful practices. That should get them fired, if I'm any judge of precedent.

 

[Verlander]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Public schools in Australia are state run.

And very, very badly run.

Ok. They'll still have governors, who won't want this kind of bad press. My suggestion is to appeal/complain directly to them. They have a lot more power than people think, and care about this sort of thing, as it reflects upon them.

 

[Baneat]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Funded by the govt. + paid for by taxes

Where I come from, that's known as a state school. A public school in the UK is an independent secondary school funded by a combination of endowments, tuition fees and other non-governmental funding

In Scotland a public school is a non-denominational state school, and a private school is privately run, not the most complicated of systems.

It's not really important, to be honest.

 

[Verlander]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Funded by the govt. + paid for by taxes

Where I come from, that's known as a state school. A public school in the UK is an independent secondary school funded by a combination of endowments, tuition fees and other non-governmental funding

In Scotland a public school is a non-denominational state school, and a private school is privately run, not the most complicated of systems.

It's not really important, to be honest.

Technically it isn't, it's just a regional terminology. Remember, officially Scotland isn't recognised as a separate country in the eyes of the law, both domestic and international.

 

[sheah1]

Well wouldn't the fear of expulsions only be fueling the self harm?

 

[Baneat]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Funded by the govt. + paid for by taxes

Where I come from, that's known as a state school. A public school in the UK is an independent secondary school funded by a combination of endowments, tuition fees and other non-governmental funding

In Scotland a public school is a non-denominational state school, and a private school is privately run, not the most complicated of systems.

It's not really important, to be honest.

Technically it isn't, it's just a regional terminology. Remember, officially Scotland isn't recognised as a separate country in the eyes of the law, both domestic and international.

I know that >.<, but it says something for your statement that the UK considers it your way - we don't, so the statement's not really true. I haven't heard state school used unless it refers to another country's.

 

[Verlander]

Firstly, when you say public school, do you mean state school? There's a difference, in my country at least.

Funded by the govt. + paid for by taxes

Where I come from, that's known as a state school. A public school in the UK is an independent secondary school funded by a combination of endowments, tuition fees and other non-governmental funding

In Scotland a public school is a non-denominational state school, and a private school is privately run, not the most complicated of systems.

It's not really important, to be honest.

Technically it isn't, it's just a regional terminology. Remember, officially Scotland isn't recognised as a separate country in the eyes of the law, both domestic and international.

I know that >.<, but it says something for your statement that the UK considers it your way - we don't, so the statement's not really true. I haven't heard state school used unless it refers to another country's.

*shrugs* It's the legal term, that's all I know. We use "private"school as well, to describe "public" schools, which can get confusing. I think I've always said state school, but it's probably just regional differences.

 

[Pointer]

Have her talk to an actual private shrink. This school guy just sound like an asshole with a degree who found out five years too late he hates kids.

 

[Flare Phoenix]

The problem is the school would probably come up with some other reason why they kicked her out of the school. Something like "We didn't feel she was reaching her full potential at our establishment or something like that".

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Really? I'm more inclined to believe that she's lying ... not that I know the person, but given the laundry list of problems and the fact that her parents could send her to a taxpayer funded professional for help if they were true and yet merely seeing a school counselor suggest other things to me.

The fact that she simply stopped self destructive tendancies is more in league with a histrionic personality disorder ... whereby she has gotten the attention of others, via her self destructive tendancies and then confronted for them and she is embellishing the story.

Or it could just be a bad counselor ... but I fail to see how a counselor would act in that fashion and are more inclined to believe that the story is largely been fabricated to the point of not making much sense. Which is certainly the case in this particular incident.

But given that all the information I have is what is told to me via hearsay ... that's the best conjecture I can give on the subject.

 

[Cheesus333]

Don't psychiatrists and such people have to abide by certain regulations that stop them taking advantage of or exacerbating people's mental conditions?

Cause if not, they should. This poor girl could actually commit suicide over this, and I would personally blame the psychologist. Best of luck to her, and to you.

 

[PatSilverFox]

My sympathies for your friend. : (

I do the same things myself.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Possibly. But get some video evidence of the teacher threatening if you can and show someone, this could end in suicide.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

Of course she can be kicked out.

For two reasons:

1. Being in the school is obviously not good for her and she needs better help. She should be in an institute which can help her.

2. If she's hurting herself they have a responsibility to keep that behaviour away from other children, teens are stupidly responsive to that sort of behaviour it can actually spread. Also if there's a chance she's going to kill herself they absolutely need to distance her from the other children, a class-mate committing suicide is massively traumatic.

Disclaimer: I do not necessarily think these are good reasons, I also don't think they are the best way to help the girl, but they are reasons that the school could legitimately use to expel her.

I think the girl does need to be refereed to a professional and the school psychologist needs to be fired.

said it all for me, thanks

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Technically no, but you're probably aware of how schools work. If the principal wants her expelled she will get expelled. Still, what the psychiatrist is doing is abuse. If your friend can get some evidence of the psychiatrist's abuse then she can get her fired. Video evidence will probably not work since they can invalidate it by saying any sort of video recording device is forbidden in the school. What you CAN do is file a formal complaint or get her parents to threaten the school with legal action. You won't have to actually sue the school; threats usually do the trick.

 

[Ris]

They can't expel her for having mental health problems, unless it's affecting her work and behaviour in such a way that she does something worthy of expulsion (for example, if she's self-harming in front of others); and even then, they'd have a very tricky time of it. That's not to say that they couldn't get social services/child protection involved though, and that may lead to your friend being removed from school if they feel that it's the wrong place for her.

Also if this "psychologist" is actually threatening her then your friend needs to go above the psychologist's head and report it to someone. That should NOT be happening.

That's about the best advice I can give. I'm at home for Easter atm so luckily enough I was able to ask my Mother, who is a mental health professional; but we're in the UK, not Australia. It might be different over there.

 

[Plurralbles]

... Is that school desperate to get sued back to the stone age?

Hell she might be able to get them to court today just for being dicks, let alone if something were to happen.