Can retro games hold up WITHOUT the nostalga?
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Well of course not all retro games would hold up, but sure a lot of them do, especially arcade games. I would say Metal Gear Solid 1 holds up, if you could consider that retro.
The only problem is a lot of classic games are only classics because they invented something new and gave you a whole new way to play games, but since then other games have taken these new mechanics and simply improved on them.
The only problem is a lot of classic games are only classics because they invented something new and gave you a whole new way to play games, but since then other games have taken these new mechanics and simply improved on them.
Only puzzles games hold up. As gamers we expect alot from games and are used to complecated controls and having a huge varity of choice of what we can do in games. Going back to old two button "jump" and "shoot" games gets bored really quick. Eventhough we used to play them same games for hours.
Halo: Combat Evolved.
Not exactly retro but it's a decade old game that holds up pretty well, no idea why they are bothering with a remake.
And if that is not old enough for you then I'd say that old Crash Bandicoot games on PS1 do hold up pretty well, the graphics are amazing for a ps1 game.
Not exactly retro but it's a decade old game that holds up pretty well, no idea why they are bothering with a remake.
And if that is not old enough for you then I'd say that old Crash Bandicoot games on PS1 do hold up pretty well, the graphics are amazing for a ps1 game.
It really does depends on the game. I only recently played the original Super Mario Bros, and i really enjoyed it.
Then again, i also recently bought and started playing Final Fantasy 6 and....it really hasnt interested me in the first half hour of gameplay.
Then again, i also recently bought and started playing Final Fantasy 6 and....it really hasnt interested me in the first half hour of gameplay.
Some can, of course.It depends on the game. I would argue, however, that only a relatively small majority of retro games can hold up, and most cannot hold up without the power of nostalgia. Most of the classics still hold up; although, there are plenty of games considered classics that haven't aged.
Depends on the time frame your looking at with "retro" games.
Homeworld (1999) and Homeworld 2 (2003) I feel have both stood the test of time and I still recommend either of them to RTS fans. (Currently replaying HW2 atm).
Even the original Total Annihilation (1997) is still a blast to play with friends with or without nostalgia.
I will admit that RTS tend to stand up to ageing a lot better than FPS as there has honestly been little in the way of "innovation" in the genre tech progression yes (being able to select more units at once etc) but little innovation which makes it much easier to go back to older RTS and still feel really at home unlike say FPS which have come a long way since Quake and Doom.
Homeworld (1999) and Homeworld 2 (2003) I feel have both stood the test of time and I still recommend either of them to RTS fans. (Currently replaying HW2 atm).
Even the original Total Annihilation (1997) is still a blast to play with friends with or without nostalgia.
I will admit that RTS tend to stand up to ageing a lot better than FPS as there has honestly been little in the way of "innovation" in the genre tech progression yes (being able to select more units at once etc) but little innovation which makes it much easier to go back to older RTS and still feel really at home unlike say FPS which have come a long way since Quake and Doom.
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System shock 2, Diablo, and Super Metroid have aged well (for me). I've played through them all in the fairly recent past and really enjoyed them.
Ocarina of Time, Deus Ex, and Tie Fighter are all games that I got (within the last 5 years) from a bargin bin or the virtual console and wasn't able to finish.
Ocarina of Time, Deus Ex, and Tie Fighter are all games that I got (within the last 5 years) from a bargin bin or the virtual console and wasn't able to finish.
For my part it would be an resounding "YES!", simply because the gaming media have become more socially acceptable over the last decade(s). Therefore games are often made to appear as broad as possible these days. The older titles (pre 2000) often contain an astounding complexity and depth because it was a geekier market back then.
How retro are we talking about? I only got Deus Ex last year, and thought it was awesome. I still love Spyro 1, 2 & 3, Klonoa, Medieval, Crash. All those awesome Playstation games. Not to mention the Pokemon games on N64, Snap and Stadium 1 & 2. I really haven't played any games earlier than that, except for the retro classics like Tetris and Donkey Kong and such, which are also awesome.
well yeah. the poetry of JOhn donne holds up after 400 years and i bet most of that language is not recognised by a modern dictionary its archaic and just awkward at times. Why should dated games be different.
but that said i think people who play retro games will be a different breed of gamer to the conventional one.
but that said i think people who play retro games will be a different breed of gamer to the conventional one.
One thing I find fascinating is how controls have changed.
Playing Deus Ex again I find the default controls a bit unwieldy. I can't imagine going back to arrow keys over WSAD.
I think to hold up a game has to have had something going for it in terms of mechanics or story. X-com has the procedurally generated missions, Deus ex has the epic story and the push for non-lethal sneaking rather than run n gun. I'm actually struggling to name any other game that encourages non-lethal combat. I'd say batman but you don't really have a lethal option for most fights.
I'd also go as far as to say some old games are more fun than their sequels. Take Theme Park. I still love original Theme Park, RCT and TPW just don't do it for me. Something about having the fixed objective ruins it for me.
Also, Dungeons was shite. There. I said it.
Playing Deus Ex again I find the default controls a bit unwieldy. I can't imagine going back to arrow keys over WSAD.
I think to hold up a game has to have had something going for it in terms of mechanics or story. X-com has the procedurally generated missions, Deus ex has the epic story and the push for non-lethal sneaking rather than run n gun. I'm actually struggling to name any other game that encourages non-lethal combat. I'd say batman but you don't really have a lethal option for most fights.
I'd also go as far as to say some old games are more fun than their sequels. Take Theme Park. I still love original Theme Park, RCT and TPW just don't do it for me. Something about having the fixed objective ruins it for me.
Also, Dungeons was shite. There. I said it.
curios to know that had you played any of them before?castlewise said:
thats kind of my point, I can apreciate many older games, like the original fallout and Deus ex....but I do have a hard time playing them
though somtihing like the monkey islnd seruies definetly holds up
I think in general, 2d games barely age at all. We plugged in our old SNES past week, and aside from some to-be-expected low resulotion (playing it on a screen which size didn't exist back in the '90s) it still looks and plays as great as it did all those years ago. Mario Bros from 1987 won't ever outdate.
Shooters suffer from being in 3D - old games look so crap compared that even when you're not the pixelcounter sort of type, you still get turned of by it. However, sprite based shooters such as Duke Nukem 3D, Doom or Marathon still look and play great to me.
Shooters suffer from being in 3D - old games look so crap compared that even when you're not the pixelcounter sort of type, you still get turned of by it. However, sprite based shooters such as Duke Nukem 3D, Doom or Marathon still look and play great to me.