Can someone please explain to me why PC gamers and Console gamers can't get along?

[ColeusRattus]

Man, this thread is so full of misconceptions!

The first is: PC gaming is more expensive than Console Gaming. Nope, it isn't neccessarily. I for one spend the same amount of money for both my gaming PC and a PS3 with a HDTV of adequate size (of course, I could've played PS3 on my old tiny SD TV, but that would've hampered the experience considerably). Also, PC games are usually a tenner cheaper than console games.

The second is: PC gamers are obsessed with graphics. That's not true for most of them. Only a tiny fraction of PC gamers has PC capable of running new games on the best settings. Also, there's a kind of tidal wave to the graphics discussion. Whenever a new console hits the market, it takes PC gaming a year or two to catch up to the consoles graphics, and another to overtake it. So usually in the first 2-3 years, the console gamers are the ones acting snobby about graphics.

And the third is: gaming on PC is complicated, consoles are hassle free. Nope. It has been well over a decade since I had to do anything other than putting in the disc and install it to play it. Guess what I have to do with Most PS3 games? Install it before playing it. I think we're on even terms here, or at least approaching even terms quite quickly.
I do remember times when I had to manually edit the config.sys and autoexec.bat of my DOS machine to get games to run, with many games requiring a reboot under different specs to be playable. Also, back then, the "custom install" wasn't merely a custom path the game was installed to, but I had to chose what came on the HD, and what stayed on the disc, to balance loading times and disc usage, amongst other things.


Finally, I have to say that I enjoy both PC and console gaming for what they are, with different strengths and weaknesses, but also because of what they share.

 

[Bat Vader]

I use a PC, PS3, and an X-BOX 360 for gaming. My preferred gaming platform is the PC. Does that mean that I hate consoles? No, I don't hate consoles. What I do hate is when people start arguing over what their preferred type of platform is. I don't care who antagonizes who. When PC gamers and Console gamers start fighting both sides are in the wrong.

 

[Neonsilver]

I'm a PC gamer, in the past I played a lot on consoles.

I dislike consoles because they have less powerfull hardware than a PC and since there are very few PC exclusives, most games don't realy use the resources of the PC.
Another reason is that most games for PC are just bad ports.

I wish that no new consoles will be released. In the past you just had to buy a game, put it in the console and you could play. Normaly the games worked very well, I had only a single game were I wished that I could install an update for it.
Now there are games that have to be installed on the console and they have to be updated, you don't have to do more on a PC to play a game (sometimes a game dosn't run, but that is rare).

The only difference I see between todays consoles and a PC is the operating system.

 

[Vault101]

I can imagine being a PC gamer thease days is frustrating..and I could understand why they would resent consoles....

 

[Griffolion]

I have many console friends and we get along fine. I'm a PC person by the way, but I also own a PS3.

Many PC people are just elitist tools who, like many other groups across the world, see their convictions as superior based on some arbitrary facts of their convictions compared to another groups convictions.

Do I think PC's are, in absolute terms, more powerful than consoles? Yes, that's a fact. This leads to better graphics, sound and the mouse/keyboard set up is better for SOME types of games, like FPS.

Do I think consoles are, on the whole, a much better platform for the vast majority of people to play games on? Yes. The ever advancing nature of PC's means that amazing machine you've just built today is tomorrow's junk. Consoles provide a stable platform for many years to provide quality gaming entertainment, while PC gaming often includes being in the rat race for your machine to stay relevant, which impacts your wallet.

In short, both PC and consoles have their merits and downfalls, both deserve places in gaming and actually get along harmoniously by filling in each other's weaknesses to provide a more complete offering of platforms for any one person to get into.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

PC gamers never complained about Saints Row or other silly fun games like that

Except for, you know, THE TERRIBLE PC PORT FOR SAINTS ROW 2.

Of course, that was because you had to throw a lot of power at the game to get it running smoothly to have your silly fun... and silly fun it is.

SR3 better have the 'sewage spraying' missions.

 

[fenrizz]

I get along just fine, thank you.

I enjoy gaming on both my PC and my PS3.
I have no real prefferance, only that certain genres play better on console and some play better on PC.

 

[Drizzitdude]

I play oin both the console and the Pc and I actually prefer the consoles. Pc controls are just a little off to me, and there are always those moments where something seemingly impossible happens that you just have to blame the lag. also, when it coems to PC shooters, the people are just WAY to twitchy, where the slightest movement on screen has caused them to get an instant headshot with how accurate mouses are voer controllers.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The ever advancing nature of PC's means that amazing machine you've just built today is tomorrow's junk.

You might want to refine that a bit otherwise certain people will take that as proof that they're right when they say "You Have To UPGRADE PCs Every X Months!!!"

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Also consoles have DRM

Consoles are DRM.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Anyone with the intelligence of a monkey and 2 thumbs can play a console. PC requires at least 6 fingers.

That really just enforces the pro-console argument

 

[fenrizz]

- More and more insane DRM
- Loss of demos. (seriously, how many times in recent memory have I seen a game that has demos... Oh, but not for the PC version. Sorry. - Which probably needs it the most, considering the compatibility issues...)
- Reduction in the amount of patching & new features games used to get for free...
- Loss of games that would in the past have had PC versions, but now don't...

Just s quick snip right here.
I can't really see how consoles are to blame for any of these things.

1. The amount of insane DRM i believe is generally because of PC piracy (or so they tell us), and therefore has little to do with consoles.

2. Consoles are not to blame for publishers not being willing to take the time to make a demo for PC. the fault here lies with the publisher/developer.

3. Honestly man, how does that have anything to do with consoles? Because the console crowd is used to not getting it?

4. This you can blame on the PC games not purchasing said games. A publishers is not very likely to release a game the don't think will sell.

 

[Neonsilver]

PC gamers care too much about graphics.

Wait, what? WHEN THE HELL DID YOU COME TO THAT CONCLUISION!? I have never heard ONE pc gamer [myself included] even MENTION a games graphics, have you BEEN on Xbox Live in the past year? Hell, have you even SHOWED a console gamer Minecraft, or a Snes or even NES title before? I remember showing a young friend of mine Super Mario Brothers, and he refused to play it, and then I showed a PC gamer it, and he played it and DAMN well liked it too.... God, I'm just mad because you made me spit out ice-cream.. Still, HOW DID YOU GET THAT CONCLUISION!?

Then how are the consoles holding you back?

Why else would you spent a shitload of time and money when you could easily get a console and have the same games?

What other defense for PC gaming is there other then better graphics?

(Also, throw some random caps over there ^)

more RAM can for example used to have more enemys at once, better CPU could be used for better enemy AI's