Can Steroids be used in a good way?

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LitleWaffle

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First off, I don't mean for medical purposes, I mean for muscle building.

Let me explain...

Just now, one of my friends in school claimed that there is a good way and a bad way to use steroids to build muscle mass.

He says that people who know what they are doing will use one dose to increase their muscle mass by 100% then it drops by about 70% or so. Apparently, that boost would just jump start their progress.

While Amateurs would use it once, then continue because they become depressed of the 70% of so lost muscle mass. And then they become addicted.

So... can Steroids be used in a good way, or is he just a silly-bo-billy? Maybe something in between?
 

Bilbo536

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Well I believe that all professional athletes should be required to use steroids. Wouldn't games be so much more entertaining if the players were all pretty much super-sayan?
(forgive me for the reference)
 

Hoplon

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LitleWaffle said:
First off, I don't mean for medical purposes, I mean for muscle building.

Let me explain...

Just now, one of my friends in school claimed that there is a good way and a bad way to use steroids to build muscle mass.

He says that people who know what they are doing will use one dose to increase their muscle mass by 100% then it drops by about 70% or so. Apparently, that boost would just jump start their progress.

While Amateurs would use it once, then continue because they become depressed of the 70% of so lost muscle mass. And then they become addicted.

So... can Steroids be used in a good way, or is he just a silly-bo-billy? Maybe something in between?
No, they can't. since no one just uses them once since once has negligible effect.
 

Danish rage

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a lot of borring sports def would benefit from widespread use.
But im not certain there are any good ways to use em.
 

danneloid

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Anabolic steroids have several legitimate medical uses.
Testicular cancer often requires the removal of the testes in men.
After surgery, these men are prescribed oral anabolic steroids to
replace the testosterone that their bodies are no longer able to
make. This maintains their secondary sexual
characteristics.
 

Kpt._Rob

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I'm not an expert on steroid use, so I don't know if it's possible that there are good ways of using steroids. That said, I have had addiction problems with other drugs in the past, and I can tell you this much, most addicts that you talk to will tell you that there is a right and a wrong way to use the drug of their preference. This is especially common amongst people who are just beginning an addiction, and have not yet hit the further stages of addiction, in which they begin to pay the costs of addiction. That is to say that because they haven't experienced any repercussions with they way they are using yet, they come to falsely believe that there will not be any future repercussions. But when it comes to drugs, you often don't pay the cost for use until after you've already received the benefits of use.
 

Spencer Petersen

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Well you have to be more specific. A steroid is a molecule which contains 4 fused rings of carbon atoms. Examples of steroids include cholesterol and testosterone and many common pharmaceuticals. You probably mean anabolic steroids though. There might be some usage of anabolics, but the side effects are so great that it severely limits its medical use. Now they would still be banned in sporting events because it gives an unfair advantage to a select few and ruins the point of the game.

To wrap it up, yes they might have some use, but it would be so limited it hardly is worth looking into.
 

spartan231490

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No. Do it the right way, that way you learn discipline, hard work, and how to stick with your goals. Not just, if i shoot up this stuff I can avoid a crap-ton of work.
for medicinal purposes, it is also used to boost muscle mass in individuals who have reduced muscle mass due to atrophie or something whatever reason.
 
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Bilbo536 said:
Well I believe that all professional athletes should be required to use steroids. Wouldn't games be so much more entertaining if the players were all pretty much super-sayan?
(forgive me for the reference)
This is the same argument baseball steroid king, Jose Canseco made.
 

Celtic_Kerr

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LitleWaffle said:
First off, I don't mean for medical purposes, I mean for muscle building.

Let me explain...

Just now, one of my friends in school claimed that there is a good way and a bad way to use steroids to build muscle mass.

He says that people who know what they are doing will use one dose to increase their muscle mass by 100% then it drops by about 70% or so. Apparently, that boost would just jump start their progress.

While Amateurs would use it once, then continue because they become depressed of the 70% of so lost muscle mass. And then they become addicted.

So... can Steroids be used in a good way, or is he just a silly-bo-billy? Maybe something in between?
Using steroids, vitamins, or any other muscle/nutrition altering substance TOO MUCH is dangerous. Your body would depend on the steroids to keep your muscles large and without them, you might suffer. Steroids in small quantities can be used to boost strength, but not actually grow muscles.

In terms od muscle growth, either you take them in small quantities and very steadily, or you don't be lazy and build muscle mass yourself. If you use them too long though, your body will depend on the steroids for t hat extra push. Taking them once or twice won't yield much.

so... no
 

Hoplon

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Hell steroids used as an immune suppressant saved my vision but that was not what the op was asking about, it was in relation to use in muscle mass increases for sport/body building.
 

Duskwaith

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I think the definition of Steroid has been misunderstood. You are talking about Anabolic steroids, since technically Cholesterol is a steroid and that is critical for cell fluidity.

As for the recreational steriods you are referring to, most are meant for animals who would be given steriod injections after surgery.

Not to mention all the people who have had serious sickness who would need extra steroidal injections to maintain either hormones or strength

Just because its misused dos not mean it is all bad, look a morphine. Widely abused by drug addicts but damn people are glad to have it when in extreme pain
 

Hashime

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I take steroids every day. Asthma medications are steroids. Certain anabolic steroids are also give to patients after major surgeries in some cases.
 

thedoclc

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The OP's first line was about how he's not asking about medical uses. Corticosteroids, cortisol ingestion, hormone replacement, etc. That's not the question. That question is obviously: yes.

The OP asked if there is a good use for steroids for muscle building purposes. So, to answer his friend's question, it's like the difference between drag racing in a city street and doing it without a seat belt; he's doing something dangerous and illegal in a less dangerous but still unsafe, just as illegal manner.

The first problem you have is the same as you have with all proscribed substances; you have no way of knowing how genuine the article is, what standards it was manufactured to, and so on. In other words, you're injecting something which isn't regulated into your veins. Now consider a lot of this stuff is forgeries sent into the US from other countries. Much of it is also made in countries where the regulatory agencies are dirty, so even legal-somewhere-else 'roids brought into the US are kind of suspect. (Let's say there's a reason I bring American meds with me when I go overseas.) Nor are you likely getting the injection from trained personnel; there's some serious risks with giving any old idiot a needle and telling him to stick you.

Alright, let's assume that your friend is sure he's getting real stuff, clean needles, and knows where he can stick it (pun intended). He's still dealing in a Schedule III Controlled Substance. So, strike two on that being smart. He's basically telling you to break the law, unless you live in one of the countries which allows this. Possession is a crime. Distribution is a worse one.

As for muscle hypertrophy, yes, but you quickly return to baseline if you don't continue to use the drug. Nor do anabolic steroids do a very good job on every muscle, with gains not getting split evenly. You also get increased blood cholesterol, increased levels of blood grease (that's what LDLs are, in simple terms), infertility, breasts if your body starts converting the testosterone to estrogen, stunted growth when your long bones just seal up (if you're not yet at your adult height), mania, depression, and psychosis. While using it short term is less likely to cause these adverse effects, yeah...not a good idea. In addition, the muscle hypertrophy is pretty much directly linked to dose.
 

Gearran

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Your friend is, as they say, taking the piss. If what he is saying were true, all these wonderful people who have talked about how steroids saved their lives/vision/other bodily functions would be gunning for the Mister/Miss Atlas competition. One dose of steroids will not increase your muscle mass by 100%, or 50%, or even 1%. It takes several doses to do that, and in quantities large enough that any benefit you gain from them in muscle-building is outweighed by the detrimental side effects that come with it (to quote Robin Williams, "two things happen when you use steroids: your balls shrink and your head grows..."). I'd stop your friend before he does something stupid (or worse, gets you to do something stupid by his own ignorance).
 

thedoclc

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Gearran said:
Your friend is, as they say, taking the piss. If what he is saying were true, all these wonderful people who have talked about how steroids saved their lives/vision/other bodily functions would be gunning for the Mister/Miss Atlas competition. One dose of steroids will not increase your muscle mass by 100%, or 50%, or even 1%. It takes several doses to do that, and in quantities large enough that any benefit you gain from them in muscle-building is outweighed by the detrimental side effects that come with it (to quote Robin Williams, "two things happen when you use steroids: your balls shrink and your head grows..."). I'd stop your friend before he does something stupid (or worse, gets you to do something stupid by his own ignorance).
Or, you know, steroid is a broad term. Gym rats want anabolic steroids. Asthmatics want corticosteroids. Testosterone, estrodiol, progesterone, and cortisol are all steroid hormones, which are a male sex hormone, a female sex hormone, a female sex hormone which helps regulate pregnancy, and a metabolic stress hormone with numerous immunosuppressive effects, respectively. Those who've posted on this topic have generally not been talking about using anabolic steroids medically. Usually, they're on a corticosteroid.