Can we please stop it with the Tumblr hate?

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I remember when Extra Creditz left. People where like "ESCAPISTS IS GONNA DIE", it was like watching wrestling fans doing the weekly TNA Deathwatch.

Ok, Escapist might be fairly solvent despite the cuts they've made but TNA is the equivalent of a plane with two engines burning and 20m of air between it and the ground. Everyone's watching to see if they make it to the landing strip or crash in fiery doom.... and there's major rumbling that Spike isn't going to renew the TV deal which may put TNA under. Sad too because WWE needs alternatives (they really need competition but no one has the cash to do so)

OT: Here's a tip, stop going to Tumblr or... quit giving a rats ass who hates on it. Nothing said here is going to affect another website significantly, neither is anything said here going to affect anything except here... but here doesn't exist.

 

[DementedSheep]

Okay, I've skimmed through the thread, since I haven't slept for thirty hours now and am not in the right state of mind to read 5 pages of posts. However, this is what I think about it:

IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

Seriously, this is happening everywhere, every time to everyone. Some leftist guy wants to make some stupid law? "Democrats want to enact [stupid law]." Some suicide bomber blows himself up? "Muslims want to destroy America". /b/ and /pol/ poke tumblr? "4chan raids tumblr"

People will always simplify this way. Get over it.

Oh sure, if "it's what people do" who cares if it's completely wrong right? We should never ever seek to inform, challenge or correct anything. Ignorance and bigotry is much easier and doesn't make your head hurt.

 

[Queen Michael]

I don't know, some of the hatred is justified. One of my biggest issues with Tumblr is that everyone says it's a welcoming community and it's not. It's welcoming if you're a very specific kind of person. Sure you can block tags but don't act like everyone actually flipping TAGS things. You can get away with not following people but if they're a big name in your part of that community it's actually incredibly limiting. You can block people and they can create subaccounts or other accounts.

Look I'm not trying to say it's the worst thing in the world or anything but it's NOT inclusive, and if you have a differing opinion you either get ignored into obscurity or attacked through various means. I really like tumblr, but it's nothing like a haven for me.

Agreed. The place is very left-wing. And that's "very left-wing" by my standards, and I'm Swedish. America's left-wing is slightly to the right of our middle.

 

[SuperSuperSuperGuy]

Tumblr is the embodiment of Sturgeon's Law. If you stay in your own little corner of the site, contained in the 10% of the site that isn't crap, you're gonna be fine. If you try to branch out at all, though, you're going to be confronted with the 90% of the site that is, in fact, crap. When I tried out Tumblr, I found that I couldn't fit in with most of the "fandoms" that are prevalent there. I mean, I'm an enthusiastic guy, but they take that to a level that is entirely to high for me to be comfortable with. I've also kept an absurdly low profile, meaning that I've never had any run-ins with most of these "Social Justice Warriors". I spend most of my time on Tumblr looking at NSFW images and attempting to maintain my relative invisibility.

A lot of people regard Tumblr as a "safe place", but the problem with that is that they use it as an excuse to spout hate and intolerance, as well as, frankly speaking, poorly thought-out and unjustified assumptions and theories about their favourite characters and works of fiction. Seriously, whenever I see the term "headcanon", it says to me "I'm going to ignore the original writer's intention, or lackthereof, and assign traits to the characters that I want them to have". Speculation is fine, but it should be accepted as mere speculation, and there has to be some justification. I highly doubt these people are the majority, of course, but their lack of prudence gives people the impression that the entire site is full of idiots. The truth is, people gravitate to Tumblr because of its lack of censorship and its advocation of free speech. While in an ideal world, the lack of regulation with make it a wonderful website for everyone, but in practice it lets the less prudent members of the site drown out the quieter members who have actual quality things to say.

 

[Something Amyss]

Please, NOBODY uses Google+ ;P

That's what we want you to think. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

OT: A lot of the user base for Tumblr is teens and we all know teens; they post whatever comes to mind

It's a lot like a diary but you can't burn the diary when you find it again after 5 years

Yeah, but that basically makes it...Just like the rest of the internet. YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, 4Chan (for anyone who identifies themselves), etc. It'll be a thing long after Tumblr goes away because it was a thing long before, too. In fact, I'd wager Tumblr's name sticks around longer as a pejorative than as a mainstream service.

What I tend to think are SJWs are basically people of the PC movement who tend to be overzealous at time, hence the warrior part of the title. They exist everywhere on the internet but the most visible group exists on tumblr for reasons others have pointed out.

Yeah, but I've been called a SJW just for pointing out facts. That's kind of the thing. By the Escapist's standards, you're pro-PC and would almost certainly be considered a SJW on the standards here. It's a trigger word[footnote]Note: Like feminist, this term had an actual use prior to the internet deciding to demand trigger warnings on everything, and I won't back off the word simply because some people have an automatic reaction to it.[/footnote] intended to make people feel uncomfortable and to distance themselves. and it's applied broadly enough that it can cover anything. Since "warrior" is just a ironic pejorative, it doesn't even matter if there's particular zeal involved. Just as I'm a "feminazi" for thinking that women are people too, you could easily be considered a social justice warrior for being "politically correct." Hell, political correctness is a similar bogeyman concept.

 

[M0rp43vs]

Yeah, but I've been called a SJW just for pointing out facts.

Yea, no surprise. Like the words "Hipster", "Femi-Nazi", "Misogynist" and "literally Hitler", which describes a thing that does exist, they have become a sort of straw man ad hominem (Is that correct? I haven't been keeping up on my internet fallacy collection), magical words that once used, means you immediately win an argument.

And for some reason, the "last bastion of intelligence on the internet" loves throwing them around lately.

Which does annoy me, because like swearing, once you start using them wily-nily they start losing a lot of impact.

Also, Footnotes are my trigger. Mostly of sexual kind due to my love of Terry Prachett, but a trigger no less so remove it next time.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

Okay, I've skimmed through the thread, since I haven't slept for thirty hours now and am not in the right state of mind to read 5 pages of posts. However, this is what I think about it:

IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

Seriously, this is happening everywhere, every time to everyone. Some leftist guy wants to make some stupid law? "Democrats want to enact [stupid law]." Some suicide bomber blows himself up? "Muslims want to destroy America". /b/ and /pol/ poke tumblr? "4chan raids tumblr"

People will always simplify this way. Get over it.

Oh sure, if "it's what people do" who cares if it's completely wrong right? We should never ever seek to inform, challenge or correct anything. Ignorance and bigotry is much easier and doesn't make your head hurt.

Oh, get over yourself. Yes, it would be better if people didn't do this shit. However, telling people to stop it on one subject doesn't help. If you want to make changes here, you need to the source of whatever it is that makes people do this.

 

[DementedSheep]

Okay, I've skimmed through the thread, since I haven't slept for thirty hours now and am not in the right state of mind to read 5 pages of posts. However, this is what I think about it:

IT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

Seriously, this is happening everywhere, every time to everyone. Some leftist guy wants to make some stupid law? "Democrats want to enact [stupid law]." Some suicide bomber blows himself up? "Muslims want to destroy America". /b/ and /pol/ poke tumblr? "4chan raids tumblr"

People will always simplify this way. Get over it.

Oh sure, if "it's what people do" who cares if it's completely wrong right? We should never ever seek to inform, challenge or correct anything. Ignorance and bigotry is much easier and doesn't make your head hurt.

Oh, get over yourself. Yes, it would be better if people didn't do this shit. However, telling people to stop it on one subject doesn't help. If you want to make changes here, you need to the source of whatever it is that makes people do this.

Everyone generalise without thinking from time to time but calling people out on it so they do stop and think about it dose work a lot the time. Certainly work better than being defeatist and never even trying to discus a problem.

 

[ForumSafari]

No, no I think I'm still going to take the piss out of Tumblr.

The more interesting question is why it bothers you so much. I mean, I like 4chan, I hardly ever see any of the crap people blame on 4chan but this forum used to love ragging on it.

That was OK then so why isn't this OK now?