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trophykiller

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TopazFusion said:
Well, I'm rather weak, despite being a green belt in karate.

So if I was surrounded by 5 guys, I'd be pretty much doomed.
You and everyone else in the world. The first rule of fighting is realizing that Hollywood is a dirty liar, and trying to copy anything you see in a film is likely to wind up going south quickly.

I probably shouldn't have to say that, but you would be amazed how many people I've heard say "hold still and let me try this". In real fights, no one will hold still for you.

Back to OP, yes. Details only serve to make me sound like a mall ninja.
 

King of Wei

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It wouldn't be very graceful at all but yeah I could defend myself, probably. I'm not physically strong at all but I'm smart and have quick reflexes so I'd at least stand a decent chance. I can usually beat my friends when we spar, though that's always 1 on 1. 5 on 1 and I'm running for the nearest tree.
 

Mr F.

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newfoundsky said:
I'm a skinny guy. To be honest, the only reason I don't get my ass kicked on a regular basis is because all of my friends are very, very large muscular men. And women. I know large people.
Like this with two alterations:

I have to walk long distances every day and I live on the 4th floor of an apartment block. This has given me legs like teak.

I did martial arts a while back, to the point where I can only remember three or four attacks and all of the basic blocks.

So whilst I am skinny to the point of being annorexic (Being a student = Can only afford books or food) I have evil SOB legs and can pull off half-decent roundhouse, side and front kicks (Side as in with the side of your foot, not to the side, just saying, I cannot remember the Japanese) along with pretty decent reaction times and the ability to block.

Oh, and a mate of mine, back in the day, taught me some basic MMA ground work.

All that aside, I think I could possibly take out one person, depending on levels of drunkenness and how many fights they had been in.

Anyone short of some form of title holder who claims they would stand a chance against more than three people is just talking out of their ass. Yes, sometimes people get lucky, like my Senseis Daughter (Brown 3rd dan at the time) taking out 5 attackers. But that was through the sheer surprise of the 5ft 1 girl they were trying to rape being able to crush a throat with her fist, if they had gone in with the intention of ATTACKING and not RESTRAINING she would have been a gonner.

Anyone would be a gonner.

"But I teach Judo!"

Congratulations! You picked up and began to throw one of them when you get punched in the back of the head, kicked in the back of the knee or otherwise stunned/stumbled for HALF A SECOND. In that half second you are on the floor with 5 (Assuming you dropped the guy you were carrying) working you over with their feet.

"But I am a black belt!"

See above. You throw one or two decent punches, yeah you make it so people go down. All it takes is one blindside, and no matter how fast you are when you are fighting that many people it will happen, and then you are gone. Utterly fucked. Spitting out teeth mixed with blood.

Very few people can deal with that many attackers. And I doubt any of them inhabit a gaming website.
 

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Backlashboy said:
i still feel if i was Surrounded by 5 guys i would get my ass handed too me
As would anyone. I'm not sure that even the most well-trained and experienced martial artist could take down five sober determined men trying to take them to the ground and beat them. I'm pretty sure the moment there's more than two people who seriously want to hurt you than you're fucked no matter who you are.

OT:

I used to get into a lot of fights because of the places I lived, so I'd say that if I was drunk with a friend and we got into a fight I'm perhaps more likely to come out on top simply because I just tackle people to the floor, fit on them, and wail away. However, if anyone has even a smidge of experience in fighting on the ground, I'm fucked. If anyone has taken a martial art or martial sport for more than about a month, I'm fucked. If there's more than one person, I'm fucked.

Usually I just go for the quick jab to whatever looks painful, push over, then run like fuck. I don't want to hurt anyone, they want to hurt me, the solution is simple.
 

Zeren

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I carry a firearm with me everywhere except where they are not allowed. That means that they would have to attack me in a bank, school, or other state or federal building.
 

exessmirror

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im a supporter of guns and gun rights but i will never carry(transport) a firearm if it is not in a gunlock and empty(unloaded). so ill have to use my hands, seeing as im good in karate and am following a krav manga course i think i can handle 1 or 2 guys
 

Arfonious

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I think that viloence is the worst kind of problem solving and almost any one surrounded by five guys is bound to get his ass handed to him

However I do believe that I stand a chance one on one
 

Infernai

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If i was allowed to bring in a sword (Or, in my case, solid wooden sword) then i have a feeling i could probably cave in some skulls rather easily given i've actually managed to get a bit of training in with how to fight with swords.
No, havn't used a real sword (Those are KIND of hard to come across these days due to being just a TAD illegal, especially in Australia where even having a butter knife makes most people nervous) but given i've fought with wooden replica's that are solid enough to knock out a grown man i think that has to count for something. For perspective, with both of us using a one of those prior mentioned wooden swords i was able to go toe to toe with someone i know who has been trained in how to fight from an Ex-Soldier and is himself trying to get into the military, as well as being responsible for utterly dominating me in . Admittedly, he didn't have any training to fight with any weapons like swords so i think i naturally had an advantage but...I'm a nerdy and lanky as hell pseudo-pacifist who's barely been in any fights throughout his life. To me this is the equivalent of a Martial artist rookie managing to fight evenly with Bruce Lee. Yeah, i don't fight much..

In Hand to Hand combat though? Aside from dodging, well...i'd probably get my ass kicked into next Tuesday due to lacking physical strength and any formal martial arts training.

Or, In D&D terms: Damnit man I'm a Rogue, Not a Fighter!
 

Zack Alklazaris

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I have only lost one fight in my entire life and that was to a marine. I showed him mercy when I got him in a headlock... he did not.

I am a skinny, 145lb, boyish looking guy. People have laughed and said they can bench press me. I think this works to my advantage. People underestimate my ability to fight and as long as my first few hits are good I tend to win.

I do need to practice with first fights more, I usually grapple.
 

dogenzakaminion

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I've been training TaeKwonDo my whole life, so i could hold my own against one or two, but in general the mentality is to avoid a fight at pretty much all costs. Against 5 guys, fuck that shit, they can have my wallet and cellphone, not gonna risk life and limb for that. If someone is getting attacked and i can help...that's more complicated. Hopefully taking down one or two will prove so intimidating that the rest will back off.
 

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i used to get bullied at school and sometimes when they really were pissing me off i would go berserk. three people my size? no problem
 

DugMachine

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Five guys? Not a chance, you just RUN.

1v1? Idk, I took boxing classes but I've never really fought before and dislike confrontation all together so probably lose.

Not to be that guy but if 5 guys are about to jump me they should be worried about what's strapped to my waist more than I should be running. Not that I wouldn't run but if I was blocked off they'd be staring down the barrel of my handgun.
 

KageFenikkusu

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i am not the person to fight, nor am i physically capable of winning a fight against anyone bigger than me(i am borderline anorexic) but give me a gun of any kind and i could take out a moving target from about 200 meters easily (been shooting at ranges since i was 6, now 19 and i have excellent aim)
 

MidnightSt

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Not sure, sometimes (and some people) I feel I could take down with the right frame of mind, maybe even 2 or 3 guys, sometimes I doubt I could handle even one.

I'm not the type for fights, not by nature, not by body-type, but the one time I tried to beat up a guy (and failed), I learned that it very much boils down to the fear of really hurting someone.

In said "fight", I had a real chance to take him down with one hit - he was standing against a wall and if I hit him in the neck, it would be pretty crushing I think, but at the last second, while I was going for the hit, I realized it could hurt him really bad and went for the stomach instead, which did nothing.

That's the point where I realized that most people, even in serious fight, are kind of afraid to hurt their opponent, which is what holds them back. When I theorize a fight, I think that if I was able to let go of this fear (as well as fear of getting hurt), I could do quite a damage even with my brittle build, just hurling my whole bodyweight to people and using it to smash them into obstacles, etc... It seems to me it would give me double advantage - it results in a pretty unconventional "kamikaze" style which most people are probably not really prepared to counter, and it might give one the surprise/shock advantage because of how utterly stupidly aggresive it would be/look like.

That said, I never had a chance to try it out in practice, and I hope I never do (though there is that part that would like to know if I'm at least partially right or I just like to think I am).

P.S. I trained no martial arts or self-defence in my life and what I wrote assumes the opponent(s) didn't either, or they did, but very poorly (as this is the most common case in my country)
 

Xaio30

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One-on-one? Probably not.
I'd have a much better chance convincing him not to fight me.
 

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White Lightning said:
Yes. The answer to this (and most questions in life) is Guns.
I wish I had a gun so I could shoot people instead of not shooting people.
But seriously, using a firearm as personal protection just doesn't sit well with me.
 

Acton Hank

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I live in England so if you do anything to defend yourself you automatically get in more trouble than the person who's attacking you.

Americans have the right idea when it comes to self defense, somebody breaks into your house and you are well within your rights to shoot them in the fucking face.
 

Riff Moonraker

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Backlashboy said:
what i mean by this thread is if you had to fight someone for whatever reason do you think you could stand a chance of beating them i do kickboxing and judo but i still feel if i was Surrounded by 5 guys i would get my ass handed too me so is there anything you guys do that would give you an advantage in that kind of Situation?
Your best chance is to hit one of them immediately. HARD. As in, hard enough to break their teeth, jaw, and knock them out hard. Then, move, and keep them pursuing you, and do not allow them to surround you. Hit any that get close enough to you in the throat, eyes, or groin, if possible. Do not stop moving.
 

Lieju

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You should just run in a situation like that.
I'd have no chance in an actual fight. I'm not physically strong, I've practised fencing, but it's not like those skills would be of any use.

I do tend to carry a knife out of habit, as a tool, but I'd never even think about using it as a weapon, unless I had no other way out. And even then I'd probably end up hurting myself.

A 1 vs 5 fight will, most likely, end with the team of five winning, but if this is not a sports-match like event, it will depends a lot of what those 5 people are after.
Are they trying to intimidate you, or seriously planning to hurt you?

If they aren't expecting to get in a fight, just a little amount of opposition might get them to retreat.
If they are seriously looking to hurt you, though, it doesn't look good.

Martial-arts aren't going to help you much, a real fight is not the same as a 1 on 1 match.

Infernai said:
If i was allowed to bring in a sword (Or, in my case, solid wooden sword) then i have a feeling i could probably cave in some skulls rather easily given i've actually managed to get a bit of training in with how to fight with swords.
And if they had swords/weaponry as well?

If we're talking taking weaponry from your house, I'd bring my scythe. (Yeah, we have a scythe, for cutting down long crass)
That, or the billhook.

Then I'd basically hope they'd rather not get too close to any blades, I suppose.