Can you get a decent rig..WITHOUT building it yourself?

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Vault101

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well PC gamers...

can you?

as much as I like PC gaming it always comes down to two things

"PC gaming costs ALOT thousand of dollars"

"bullshit...you can get a rig for a very decent price..all you need to do it build it yourself...with a degree in theoretical physics and a flux capacitator"

but anyway, are you not a "real" PC gamer unless you build it yourself?
 

Soviet Heavy

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Yes you can. Go to Newegg and buy the parts, then find a tech savvy friend to assemble it for you.
 

Phoenixmgs_v1legacy

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You just need to get a PC with a good processor and a good amount of RAM, then buy a good video card and put it in yourself. It's pretty easy to install cards and RAM.
 

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Building your own rig is actually not too difficult nor complicated... though you'll still want some help the first time (or first few times even). The parts can be sensitive to static shocks and fairly fragile, not to mention some components can be quite annoying to install (processor cooling seems to be an issue); so yeah, experienced help is highly recommended.

But is building your own rig required to get a decent one? These days, not really; especially since quite a few specialist stores offer some pre-built rigs from high-end parts. However, if you want to make a really good rig? Yeah, you pretty much have to assemble it yourself. If you just want decent, many off-the-shelf PCs will do the job just fine.

The other benefits to building your own rig might be surprising. It's a bit cheaper to buy the individual parts yourself and assemble them, at least if you want to see a comparable performance out of an off-the-shelf PC; though not as pronounced as it used to be. The next benefit is higher quality parts. With the exceptions of processors and video cards, most generic PCs will use generic parts; going out of your way for those good parts (which aren't much more expensive) will net you better cooling, more and faster RAM, an SSD in addition to your general purpose HDD, and so on. Then there's the customization options, because it's just fun to have an LED-lit case (which, again, doesn't cost much extra); performance cases can be a fair bit more pricey than generic ones, but often look much better and have better airflow/cooling. And this is all without even touching the fancy stuff like RAID, TRIM, SLI, and over-clocking.

You don't have to build your own rig unless you're looking for a high-performance PC. But then again, why not give it a try (assuming you can find some help)? You'll learn quite a bit in doing so, giving you a better grasp of how to upgrade your PC when the time comes and how to build another better-than-normal rig (again, for a surprisingly reasonable cost) when it comes time to replace your last one.

It's a bit hard to go away from self-built rigs after you've made one yourself, simply because of how much better they can be; especially when there really isn't an additional cost associated with them. It's worth doing for all types of rigs (or at least it seems that way), from performance to budget; you'll almost always get more bang for your buck, and more control over everything.
 

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I'm stealing this from a thread elsewhere but basically.

What people think building a PC is like.
http://www.gw4wph.co.uk/photos/ELD_0072.jpg

What it's actually like.
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/blocktoys.ae/kids-playing-with-lego.jpg
 

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I got Australia's best overclocker to build, customise, and modify my pc, then added a second gpu myself. And im better than a lot of people at tf2.
 

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Vault101 said:
well PC gamers...

can you?
Of course you can. Most of the PC gamers I know haven't built their PCs because they got me to build it for them at the moddest cost of parts + 25 pack of Stuyvie reds and a 600ml FUIC Strong. Build research and speccing included.


but anyway, are you not a "real" PC gamer unless you build it yourself?
You're a real PC gamer if you game on a PC. That's the only criteria. Anything else is self-serving dickwaving by the insecure...

... and I can usually trump those wankers with "Was the first game you played one you typed into a TRS-80 yourself with code from a magazine? No? HA! Fucking tryhard."
 

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Vault101 said:
well PC gamers...

can you?

as much as I like PC gaming it always comes down to two things

"PC gaming costs ALOT thousand of dollars"

"bullshit...you can get a rig for a very decent price..all you need to do it build it yourself...with a degree in theoretical physics and a flux capacitator"

but anyway, are you not a "real" PC gamer unless you build it yourself?
As the second poster says - any of your trust worthy friends tech savy?

Both of my friends who are PC gamers got me to build their current gaming PC, and both went fine, so, thats one way.

Or ebay, I've seriously considered going that way next time, of course there's no warranty with that... There should be stores that specialize in custom built gaming pc, I'm sure there are in the US, but I'm not sure about my locale, or where you hail from, thus yours either.

Failing those three options, it really isn't that hard, I did a course on it, and most of the building instructions came from the component manuals - so just remember to buy stand offs, and lots of small screws, and everything else is just big, so yeah.

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Vault101

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Somonah said:
I've never built a PC myself. I rather just pay a lil bit and have someone who actually knows what they are doing put it together.

That said, i'm sure it's not very hard to put together. You lil quib about needing a degree in physics or whatever went beyond a exaggerated joke and just seemed a lil pathetic.
?...pathetic?

interesting way of putting it
 

KingofMadCows

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You can get a decent rig without building it yourself, it just costs more.

Although, it is not difficult to build one on your own. Just watch a few guides and build the computer on a big table in a place with really good lighting. Also, I would suggest you spend a little more to get a bigger case on your first build since it makes things much easier.
 

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Absolutely. It's just gonna cost you more. It's not hard to build it yourself. There are a lot of useful tutorials on youtube.
 

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You know, all those parts you buy come with instructions that tell you how to assemble them.

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Dandark

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I too would like to upgrade my labtop to a gaming PC but I don't want to risk buying all the parts and then somehow messing it up, A tech savvy friend of mine tells me that I should just wait untill I can get the parts and build it though so I will reccomend the same to you.

Also do not buy Alienware, they overcharge.
 

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Dandark said:
I too would like to upgrade my labtop to a gaming PC
Unless you paid good coin for it in the first place, forget it. Apart from swapping out the RAM, the HDD and usually the optical drive most laptops can't be upgraded... a few top of the line models can be upgraded but a) it's a finicky, pain in the arse job and b) the parts are hard to find and cost a fuckload.

It's also possible to build a laptop from scratch... but it'll end up costing you at least 50% more than a prebuilt of the same specs.
 

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RhombusHatesYou said:
Dandark said:
I too would like to upgrade my labtop to a gaming PC
Unless you paid good coin for it in the first place, forget it. Apart from swapping out the RAM, the HDD and usually the optical drive most laptops can't be upgraded... a few top of the line models can be upgraded but a) it's a finicky, pain in the arse job and b) the parts are hard to find and cost a fuckload.

It's also possible to build a laptop from scratch... but it'll end up costing you at least 50% more than a prebuilt of the same specs.
Sorry I kinda described that wrong. I meant that I'd rather just upgrade from using a labtop to having a desktop gaming pc. I hardly ever move my labtop around so I may as well just get a desktop one.
 

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Its not super hard. Keep your hands clean and dont touch the gold bits or the little teeth, make sure you put those little seperator things between the motherboard and the inside of the case that go on the screws so you dont short it, and just stick everything where it fits! You can quickly learn to tell where the RAM goes from where the processor goes. Bobs your uncle!

But probably get a friend or do a lot of research with the old google the first time, and keep the dimensions of all the parts in mind and the case. You dont want to do what I did and buy a graphics card that had to be squeezed in, or worse just doesnt fit at all!

Edit: You could probably find some videos detailing the way to build it. Also I assume your australian like me 101? you have a footrot flats avatar, So go pick up a copy of Pc Powerplay magazine, it has a great section in it called the Menagerie that details builds for different price brackets, it has a $1000 dollar computer, a $2000 dollar computer, a $3000 dollar computer....and the beast, which is unlimited lol.

double edit: I said Pc Gamer, but I meant so say PC POWERPLAY! So get that one!
 

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You don't have to build your pc yourself but it is preferable to at least choose the parts yourself. There are some web-shops that will build your rig from the parts for a modest price. Problem with the pre-build pc:s is that they usually have some low quality parts (like power supply unit) in them and an average consumer cannot tell the difference. You can ask around for some more experienced people in net to give you a good component list for your pc. You can usually get a much better rig for the same price with this method compared to pre-build pc:s.