GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! Seriously? Look up Tim Minchin's beat poem Storm on Youtube - you sound just like her... Like it or not, we need tightly regulated, accountable, well researched pharmaceutical products. The only way you can get that at the moment is Big Pharma. Is it great? NO. Good? Hell NO. Necessary? Hell YES!Quiet Stranger said:
Canadian Scientists Cure Cancer... No One Notices?
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Uhh how does this refute my claim?Spacewolf said:
Here straight quote from wiki: Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is not transmitted through nuclear DNA (nDNA). In humans, as in most multicellular organisms, mitochondrial DNA is inherited only from the mother's ovum.
Mitochondria DNA has nothing to do with X chromosomes.
The end.
Then how come it wasn't picked up in Canada, where it was developed, where the healthcare is public?Kpt._Rob said:
Hell, I LIVE in Edmonton, I go to the University of Alberta, and I'd never heard of this until now.
I was thinking the same. Depressing, but amazing.SupabadMan said:
Gonna link that on my facebook page. Maybe more people would be interested in this and will share it. Since the mass media won't do shit until they see money flying down from the sky, we have to inform more people.
The Mitochondria has the ability to kill the cell, if I remember my biology correctly, and cancer cells have mitochondria that don't kill the cell after a certain amount of time. Thus, you have a buildup of cancer cells, or tumor.Puzzlenaut said:
The idea is that this drug kicks the mitochondria into action, and the tumor commits suicide.
Does it? <link=http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-05-12_Update.cfm>You tell me.
We are a capitalist society, if you can't make money from it, why bother?
Same with space, there is no payback at the moment.
Same with space, there is no payback at the moment.
Oh my shit. The mitochondria creates ATP within cells. It has nothing to do with destroying cells.
Edit: Okay, actually. Shitty blog post is shitty. What their saying is instead of shutting down glycolysis in the cell which breaks down suger and is pretty much the start of cell respiration. They've tried to stop the kreb cycle and the electron transport chain which take place within the mitochondria. Which are much bigger players in cell respiration when it comes to ATP output. This would really slow down a cell.
Edit: Okay, actually. Shitty blog post is shitty. What their saying is instead of shutting down glycolysis in the cell which breaks down suger and is pretty much the start of cell respiration. They've tried to stop the kreb cycle and the electron transport chain which take place within the mitochondria. Which are much bigger players in cell respiration when it comes to ATP output. This would really slow down a cell.
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@AugustFall: Ok, seriously man, your knowledge of Biology is severely lacking here. Read wikipedia on apoptosis or just my earlier posts.Trolldor said:
@Sapient Pearwood: True on the OP, but if you have access the read the actual paper (or at least the abstract) on PubMed. Very different story - good science, well peer reviewed.
@Trolldor: We meet again... still can't tell what your angle is here... do you mean that there's no way it can work because we haven't heard about it previously? Or that there's no way it hasn't been being worked on? The latter's correct, but unless you get a subscription to an oncology journal there's no way you can argue the former.
Say....!@#$ing...WHAAAAAT?
....If this is true...If the only reason that this is not being worked on more is because "we can't rip people off with it"...
If this is the truth, we need to shout this from the rooftops. There are people out there dying from cancer. They need this cure, pharmaceutical wallets be damned.
Also, props to my fellow Canadians for figuring this out!
(I didn't read anything past the first page. I don't have the time, so if someone proved this wrong, oops)
....If this is true...If the only reason that this is not being worked on more is because "we can't rip people off with it"...
If this is the truth, we need to shout this from the rooftops. There are people out there dying from cancer. They need this cure, pharmaceutical wallets be damned.
Also, props to my fellow Canadians for figuring this out!
(I didn't read anything past the first page. I don't have the time, so if someone proved this wrong, oops)
Actually, one of the many reason cancer cells survive the natural apoptosis progress normal cells inflict upon themselves, is because this mechanism is disabled in cancer cells. This progress is triggered in the mitochondria.Owyn_Merrilin said:
Sorry if this has already been pointed out to you, but I wasn't able to read the whole thread.
In the original article it says 'the human body has... cancer fighting cell ... the mitochondria'.
These caps aren't aimed at the OP, but the article author: MITOCHONDRIA ARE NOT CELLS. They are contained WITHIN a cell and all they do is give the cell the energy to do what it needs to do. They never have been cells and cannot survive outside of a cell. They do nothing more than process oxygen in order to provide energy. It's how we breathe, move, eat, sleep and do anything. They are basically the cell battery.
This article is kinda bull. Cancer is our own cells, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter which cells actually divide out of control and make us ill; it could be anything. It's not an illness, it's a biological flaw within the people that get it, and it causes illness. All it is in layman terms is your cells dividing, but getting it wrong.
This article actually reminds me of those stupid articles that claim eating healthily and drinking so much water a day can cure or prevent a type of Cancer.
Rant over.
These caps aren't aimed at the OP, but the article author: MITOCHONDRIA ARE NOT CELLS. They are contained WITHIN a cell and all they do is give the cell the energy to do what it needs to do. They never have been cells and cannot survive outside of a cell. They do nothing more than process oxygen in order to provide energy. It's how we breathe, move, eat, sleep and do anything. They are basically the cell battery.
This article is kinda bull. Cancer is our own cells, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter which cells actually divide out of control and make us ill; it could be anything. It's not an illness, it's a biological flaw within the people that get it, and it causes illness. All it is in layman terms is your cells dividing, but getting it wrong.
This article actually reminds me of those stupid articles that claim eating healthily and drinking so much water a day can cure or prevent a type of Cancer.
Rant over.