Canadian Scientists Cure Cancer... No One Notices?

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Matt_LRR

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Kpt._Rob said:
And people wonder why I rail on about what a sick fucked up system privatized healthcare is. In a socialized healthcare system, where people come ahead of money, we'd have jumped all over this. Too bad we'd rather make money by holding people's own lives hostage until they fork up the dough for a treatment.
...Canada's healthcare system is socialized.

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I seriously doubt that something as monumental as the CURE FOR CANCER would just be ignored by mainstream media. Also, this article was written three years ago.

I'm calling bullshit on this one.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
Kpt._Rob said:
And people wonder why I rail on about what a sick fucked up system privatized healthcare is. In a socialized healthcare system, where people come ahead of money, we'd have jumped all over this. Too bad we'd rather make money by holding people's own lives hostage until they fork up the dough for a treatment.
...Canada's healthcare system is socialized.

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Yes I realize that. It's kind of hard for a devoted liberal like myself to have not seen Michael Moore's documentary after all. My point was directed more towards the American capitalist system, one which I see being much slower to take up any treatment that isn't highly profitable.
 

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I am glad I am not the only one who read this and went "wha, who wrote this??"

I have a 4yr degree in biology (well, Clinical Laboratory Sciences, technically....but I am two classes from finishing my bio degree) and reading that was painful. Either the discovery is complete bs, or the paper was written by a pr guy with no bio background who skimmed the research. Mitochondria are not cells, the are organelles (pointed out above, I believe) and if they are not "turned on", your cells cannot perform metabolism and you would, in fact, die.

Working in the healthcare field, I can also say that even if the drug itself cannot be patented, the pharm companies would still be interested because they would just patent a delivery system and launch a marketing campaign stating how wonderful they are because they developed a unique and effective way to deliver that vital, life saving drug DCA and now you too can get the treatments for only 5 buttmillion dollars per dose! How exciting!
 

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Kpt._Rob said:
Matt_LRR said:
Kpt._Rob said:
And people wonder why I rail on about what a sick fucked up system privatized healthcare is. In a socialized healthcare system, where people come ahead of money, we'd have jumped all over this. Too bad we'd rather make money by holding people's own lives hostage until they fork up the dough for a treatment.
...Canada's healthcare system is socialized.

-m
Yes I realize that. It's kind of hard for a devoted liberal like myself to have not seen Michael Moore's documentary after all. My point was directed more towards the American capitalist system, one which I see being much slower to take up any treatment that isn't highly profitable.
"America, Love it or Leave it."

OT: Now, that I've gotten my political retort out of the way... I'm questioning the legitimacy of this this article... All they'd have to do is tell a news station and they'd get it pasted all over everything.
 

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Okay, the alarm bells went off after I saw the comments that were made 4 fucking years ago. That, and from the various comments calling this discovery as bullshit, I have a hard time believing that this is actually the break through that people want and is simply just an excuse to rally against Big Pharma.
 

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The Moehlinator said:
Working in the healthcare field, I can also say that even if the drug itself cannot be patented, the pharm companies would still be interested because they would just patent a delivery system and launch a marketing campaign stating how wonderful they are because they developed a unique and effective way to deliver that vital, life saving drug DCA and now you too can get the treatments for only 5 buttmillion dollars per dose! How exciting!
I actually just saw a commercial for extended release niacin, and there's a prescription fish oil out there, too. Yours for just dollars a day.
 

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Yassen said:
Thoughts?

Edit: Also I'm aware this article is a few years old but it doesn't change the fact that no one has picked it up.
Actually, several universities have picked it up. I remember a few months ago, an area university successfully reproduced these results in tests with a particular kind of cancer. In human subjects, if I recall the e-mail correctly.

So this is being used... just on a small scale. Hopefully the repeat publications will allow doctors (rather than drug companies) to employ it anyway.
 

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My thougths on this are simple. If this treatment works, it'll get adopted as common practice.

You shouldn't be suprised by the pharmaceutical giants not being interested. Believe it or not, they're not there for your benefit. They just want profit. If they could sell you a drug that cured one thing but caused another so you needed another medication to treat that problem rather than a simple cheap cure, they would.

These guys are right up there with insurance, cigarette and coffee companies. Fucking douchebags, the lot of them.
I got given a document about the Illuminati by my friend recently and it had a section concerning how they make us ill so we go and take their medication which is tailored to make us more ill so we will then go and take more medication.
Whether you believe in the Illuminati or not, this rings true.
The amount of people I've seen get really fucked up on prescription medication is astonishing, when they probably would've been far better off drinking plenty of ginger tea and sleeping it off.
Of course, that won't work for cancer or anything, but then look at all the stuff about Cannabis' cancer fighting properties...

Not to mention all the stuff I personally got told about my depression being a chemical imbalance, which they then gave me pills for.
Y'know how I beat my depression?
By getting away to a rural area for a week and sitting under trees simply not worrying.
Chemical imbalance my ass.
To me that stinks of literal lies and misinformation.
 

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The Moehlinator said:
Working in the healthcare field, I can also say that even if the drug itself cannot be patented, the pharm companies would still be interested because they would just patent a delivery system and launch a marketing campaign stating how wonderful they are because they developed a unique and effective way to deliver that vital, life saving drug DCA and now you too can get the treatments for only 5 buttmillion dollars per dose! How exciting!
Without exclusive rights to the drug itself, no company would be interested because all another company would have to do would be to modify the dosage form and the patent would be useless.

Merck: We have a patent for DCA tablets.

Roche: That's cool... We're making enteric coated capsules

Pfizer: Nice. We're making a transdermal implant.

Wyeth: We're making an IV transfusion.

GSK: Shut the fuck up Wyeth. Who asked you?

Not to mention the number of generics who would pounce on this as soon as one of the big pharmas have done their thing...

As a drug its simply not viable.
 

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Dags90 said:
The Moehlinator said:
Working in the healthcare field, I can also say that even if the drug itself cannot be patented, the pharm companies would still be interested because they would just patent a delivery system and launch a marketing campaign stating how wonderful they are because they developed a unique and effective way to deliver that vital, life saving drug DCA and now you too can get the treatments for only 5 buttmillion dollars per dose! How exciting!
I actually just saw a commercial for extended release niacin, and there's a prescription fish oil out there, too. Yours for just dollars a day.
Sad, isn't it? My girlfriend had to go to the ER a while back and she was prescribed 3 or 4 big name drugs (variations of oxycodone and the like). When we went to the pharmacy to pick them up, the tab was over $400 for three weeks worth of pills. Fortunately for me, my uncle is a doctor and took a look at the list of drugs. He rewrote the prescriptions for the generic versions of the drug (same exact drug down to the molecular lvl, just no fancy stamping on the pill) and we picked up everything for under $14. At that point, I lost the tiny tiny shred of hope I had left for modern western medicine.
 

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Yeah too bad that article is pathetically biased...

Doctor's have been using DCA to treat cancer "off-label" since as early as 2007. The only problem is it completely fails to work about as often as it succeeds. And here's the kicker ladies and gentlemen: Long-term use can actually result in liver cancer. That's right, using it to treat cancer can actually give MORE cancer.