Canadians React With Anger to New Internet Usage Caps

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Tilted_Logic

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My household just switched to Teksavvy, a sub-company of Bell. We're pretty much utterly screwed with this download cap. One of the major reasons Bell is doing this (from what I've heard) is to encourage people to use it's TV satellite service, and ignore things like Netflix that allow you to watch online. Netflix was mentioned in the article, but damnit they better not get rid of it here, it was too awesome having so many obscure shows at your fingertips.

I'm not sure how long these companies will get their way though, the amount of resistance around here in Ontario has been ridiculous.
 

SimuLord

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They finally found a way to stop progress in its tracks. The media providers should be lobbying in force and using their traditional media outlets, even if they have to go outside Canada to do it, saying that the government is destroying an entire two provinces' worth of their customer base (and eventually the whole country.)

This is a similar problem in America---my ISP (AT&T, and fuck them, the moment my contract's up I'm switching---and to hell with my idiot ex-wife for insisting we switch to DSL because it was cheaper) has an 80GB download cap and a $1/GB charge for overage fees, and the biggest loser in that? ESPN3.com, Steam, and Netflix On Demand, the former two I use quite a bit. AT&T's asshole decision is costing ESPN and Valve money, since I may be willing to pay a few extra bucks but most people, who are younger than me and whose parents are probably flipping their shit at "overage charges", are losing out.

The other media companies, as in the content creators, are claiming in the US that bandwidth caps stop piracy, but that's a bit like treating a hangnail with a hand grenade.
 

DanDeFool

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Gindil said:
Merkavar said:
so how much does it cost to get 200gb limit?
Right here:

Awesome breakdown of the situation.

Seriously, this pricing scheme is retarded. These Canadian ISPs have basically gotten the government to help them orchestrate a nationwide price-fixing scheme. To all you Obama-bashing right-wingers who say regulation kills the market, this is the result of unfettered Capitalism.

My thoughts are with Canada in these difficult times. Hopefully, you can get your legislators to reverse this decision. If not, good luck orchestrating that nationwide ISP boycott. Or planning to elect officials that won't stand for this crap. Or planning the violent overthrow of your government.
 

Amarinth

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It's the same problem in the UK. You're either screwed with a cap or you're screwed with traffic shaping and speed throttling - and traffic shaping isn't an option if you do online gaming since it fucks with your connection to the game servers. Also out in the country all internet packages come with complementary crappy BT-line speeds, meaning you're lucky if you can get upto 6-8mbit, because that's as fast as it's ever going to get.

The best internet package a friend of mine could get in his new house out in the woods in the northeast was a package with 80gb peak useage (peak = 8am-8pm) and no off-peak useage cap, for 50 quid, with a speed of 6-8mbit tops.

In comparison I live in the Netherlands, also out in the country, and I have unlimited 20mbit internet with no traffic shaping or throttling for 50 euro's. Actually it's less than that as the 50 euro package also includes digital cable tv and phone.

We're living in the age of online gaming, digital distribution, video streaming and we're quickly headed towards the point where everything we used to do by snail mail and phone can be done online, and in some cases is even encouraged to be done that way.

After 10+ years of these ideas developing unhindered you really can't just force people back into the digital stone age, it just doesn't work. From the ISP's perspective it's not even about moderating people's useage, it's about greed, plain and simple. They've figured out that now that we're so dependant on the internet and most of us take stuff that uses a lot of bandwidth (like video streaming, gaming and digital distributation) for granted, they can charge us more for the same service and most of us will end up paying it, because we don't want to go back to where we were before.

Ofcourse making this step only works once you've eliminated most of the competition, so that when you drop the bomb on people they have nowhere else to go. This is why so many ISP's are trying to consolidate by merging and/or buying up smaller ISPs. Once they control the majority of a country's network traffic, especially when they also own the lines that smaller independant ISPs that are still in business depend on... well, when that happens they can charge us whatever they want, limit us in any way they want (fair useage policy my ass, more like 'how can we squeeze more people onto the same bandwidth and give them less than what they're paying for' policy) and any real choice will just be a nice shiny illusion...
 

Bon_Clay

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Its fucking bullshit, Roger's service has been getting worse every year, and already impossed a bandwidth cap on my a while ago even though I was already a customer for years without one.

I will do my damn best not to stand for this shit, already signed the petition and looking at who else to contact and complain to. Someone needs to break up this monopoly and their greedy bullshit.
 

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This is bold stroke in a progressive direction. I'm glad to see Bell and other corporations taking the globally responsible, green alternative. It's time to get people to stop carelessly using up so much internets. If we continue expending resources like this, one day we might not have any left. It's for a better, brighter future.
 

Killclaw Kilrathi

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I was going to make some sarcastic quip that would point out how much more we still pay in Australia, but in retrospect this actually puts you guys almost on our level of being ripped off. I'm sorry to hear it, you have my sympathies.
 

Adultism

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mad825 said:
If there would ever be one thing preventing me from wanting to live in Canada, It would be this.
I agree with this. I useto want to move to Canada, But I'm a huge PC gamer. So this is kinda a downer for me. Thank God we can download as much as we want in America, but I feel sorry for the Canadians.
 

Aeshi

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There are no words for how much this sucks.

You Canadians have my Sympathy (Empathy?)
 

Russian_Assassin

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How come I've never heard of a thing like this in Greece? I'm starting to appreciate this country even more now. Maybe 'twas a good choice to move here after all :D
 

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frago roc said:
Phokal said:
If the plan is "pay what you use" then if you use 100 megs for just email and browsing, that's what should be charged for. 1/60th of the current plan is how much?

Not that that is better, but at least it is fair.

This is just some jumble of charging for what you aren't using, but with a cap to charge more for anyone using it actively.
You honestly think this work both ways? No, only when you're over, not under.

We pay over $100 a month, every month through rogers due to overage fees.
Oh, no way! I am stating that if that's the logic used for the change, then it *should* go both ways. But it does not, so their reasoning for this change in policy is not sound. Why the arbitrary block that requires $100 for 20 gigs (or whatever it is)? The blocks should scale up and down. Only scaling up is not "to help sell the customer only the data they are using" by imposing a smallest block that is higher than their average customer.
 

darksakul

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Sucks to be a Canadian Internet user with limited funds. I almost feel sorry for them.

As someone who's NOT a Canadian Citizen, I honestly do not care as long as the same issue do not come here into my country. If the Canadians want their internet back they need to fight for it.
 

shadowstriker86

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damn it, i live in the states but this is something on a level of stupid that shouldn't have been passed, this is something bush jr. wouldve passed because he has cable internet and he can't download his porn fast enough
 
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Yeah, heard about this earlier in the week.

Already signed the petition, sent the Emails, etc.

Heavily considering calling the competition bureau/The government about this. On closer inspection it doesn't seem AS bad as it's being made out to be.

HOWEVER, it's still pretty freakin' bad, and needs to get stopped.
 

Rainboq

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Fightgarr said:
I'm a Teksavvy user. I'm absolutely thrilled that my roommate and I's 200GB cap is now reduced by 70%. This is the best thing to ever happen to me. I love Bell and everything they stand for.
Why?!

OT: Ugh, Bell, Roger's and the infrastructure owners should NOT sell services like they do, rather, they should just rent the infrastructure to companies like Techsavvy.