Cartoonnetwork greenlights new show

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
]

But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

 

[MCerberus]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

I never heard of Over the Garden Wall?

And the cartoons I watched as a kid had Emotional Depth aswell. I mean Samurai Jack taught people a lesson about Anger with Jack vs Mad Jack, Teen Titans had clear examples of this when it comes to things like Trust and Friendship. Rugrats had those moments aswell.

And do I have to mention Disney movies that I did watch? The Increadibles is the best possible movie Pixar ever made.

 

[McMarbles]

A new show that's NOT a lazy reboot? Huzzah!

infinity train when?

 

[MCerberus]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

I never heard of Over the Garden Wall?

And the cartoons I watched as a kid had Emotional Depth aswell. I mean Samurai Jack taught people a lesson about Anger with Jack vs Mad Jack, Teen Titans had clear examples of this when it comes to things like Trust and Friendship. Rugrats had those moments aswell.

And do I have to mention Disney movies that I did watch? The Increadibles is the best possible movie Pixar ever made.

Thought we were talking TV here.
But everything you listed were a little, well shallow. Even with these examples, you're listing individual episodes while these days there's stuff like "Let's make a character study about someone whose mom died in childbirth" or "an extended study in paranoia and drifting away from your family"
Over the Garden Wall is themed around regret and death and borrows imagery from Twain and that era in American literature.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

I never heard of Over the Garden Wall?

And the cartoons I watched as a kid had Emotional Depth aswell. I mean Samurai Jack taught people a lesson about Anger with Jack vs Mad Jack, Teen Titans had clear examples of this when it comes to things like Trust and Friendship. Rugrats had those moments aswell.

And do I have to mention Disney movies that I did watch? The Increadibles is the best possible movie Pixar ever made.

Thought we were talking TV here.
But everything you listed were a little, well shallow. Even with these examples, you're listing individual episodes while these days there's stuff like "Let's make a character study about someone whose mom died in childbirth" or "an extended study in paranoia and drifting away from your family"
Over the Garden Wall is themed around regret and death and borrows imagery from Twain and that era in American literature.

I thought we were just talking animation in general thus including movies?

Regardless of the portrayal of emotional depth its other factors at play here namely Art Style and Animation.

I have taste in these things and so far most Art Styles in current Cartoon Network shows feels bland and unappealing to my eyes.

I cannot stand the look of Steven Universe and its color pallete. I grew up with colorful palettes and clear backgrounds in shows like Kid's Next Door and Dexter's Lab. And they had consistant quality animation for the time. Steven Universe and Adventure Time just looks boring visually. And it does matter because this is the medium of Animation.

 

[PapaGreg096]

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Do you hate it because SJWs like it and thus the cartoon's accociated with them, or because of their own merits?
Perhaps a mix between the two, you've seen content in the shows that you think SJWs will like or something like that?

A mix really. Young Justice was great and Tumblr love it but for different reasons than mine. Things like Steve Universe pander to the SJW demographic and I can't stand it, though I recognize there's a seed of a great show there that unfortunately never sprouted.

If it pandered to the SJW demographic then they would't have a conservative character portrayed as 3 dimensional and sympathetic or have a rainbow haired butch woman voiced by a black woman portrayed as an antagonist. I think you're pretty much reaching at this point.

 

[RaikuFA]

A new show that's NOT a lazy reboot? Huzzah!

infinity train when?

But Infinity Train...

Glad I'm not the only one. Also V&V.

 

[McMarbles]

A new show that's NOT a lazy reboot? Huzzah!

infinity train when?

But Infinity Train...

Glad I'm not the only one. Also V&V.

Eh, Victor & Valentino was...okay. I'd be willing to give it a shot.

There was another pilot called "Twelve Forever" that looked like it had potential.

 

[McMarbles]

a

Do you hate it because SJWs like it and thus the cartoon's accociated with them, or because of their own merits?
Perhaps a mix between the two, you've seen content in the shows that you think SJWs will like or something like that?

A mix really. Young Justice was great and Tumblr love it but for different reasons than mine. Things like Steve Universe pander to the SJW demographic and I can't stand it, though I recognize there's a seed of a great show there that unfortunately never sprouted.

If it pandered to the SJW demographic then they would't have a conservative character portrayed as 3 dimensional and sympathetic or have a rainbow haired butch woman voiced by a black woman portrayed as an antagonist. I think you're pretty much reaching at this point.

It wouldn't surprise me if he never actually watched the show and is going off reddit posts.

 

[Dansen]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
]

But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

There you go again, putting down people for having diffrent tastes and elevating yourself.

Thats cute and all but I have never see you praising those shows. When ever these types of threads show up you crticise shows that have rather mature themes because they seem childish/lighthearted on the surface or you dislike the asthetic. I remember you making a thread bemoaning the fact that a cartoon parody of Batman was being made. Batman, the most oversaturated edglord superhero, had the nerve to get a lighthearted spin off. Its pretty emblimatic of your views on entertainment media.

 

[RaikuFA]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
]

But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

There you go again, putting down people for having diffrent tastes and elevating yourself.

Thats cute and all but I have never see you praising those shows. When ever these types of threads show up you crticise shows that have rather mature themes because they seem childish/lighthearted on the surface or you dislike the asthetic. I remember you making a thread bemoaning the fact that a cartoon parody of Batman was being made. Batman, the most oversaturated edglord superhero, had the nerve to get a lighthearted spin off. Its pretty emblimatic of your views on entertainment media.

Was that the Lego Batman movie?

 

[Dansen]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
]

But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

There you go again, putting down people for having diffrent tastes and elevating yourself.

Thats cute and all but I have never see you praising those shows. When ever these types of threads show up you crticise shows that have rather mature themes because they seem childish/lighthearted on the surface or you dislike the asthetic. I remember you making a thread bemoaning the fact that a cartoon parody of Batman was being made. Batman, the most oversaturated edglord superhero, had the nerve to get a lighthearted spin off. Its pretty emblimatic of your views on entertainment media.

Was that the Lego Batman movie?

Nah, it was a cartoon using the early designs and using Adam West as inspiration. Pretty harmless stuff, but you would think Batman was "ruind foreva" by the way he was.going on about it.

 

[ryan_cs]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

I never heard of Over the Garden Wall?

And the cartoons I watched as a kid had Emotional Depth aswell. I mean Samurai Jack taught people a lesson about Anger with Jack vs Mad Jack, Teen Titans had clear examples of this when it comes to things like Trust and Friendship. Rugrats had those moments aswell.

And do I have to mention Disney movies that I did watch? The Increadibles is the best possible movie Pixar ever made.

Thought we were talking TV here.
But everything you listed were a little, well shallow. Even with these examples, you're listing individual episodes while these days there's stuff like "Let's make a character study about someone whose mom died in childbirth" or "an extended study in paranoia and drifting away from your family"
Over the Garden Wall is themed around regret and death and borrows imagery from Twain and that era in American literature.

I thought we were just talking animation in general thus including movies?

Regardless of the portrayal of emotional depth its other factors at play here namely Art Style and Animation.

I have taste in these things and so far most Art Styles in current Cartoon Network shows feels bland and unappealing to my eyes.

I cannot stand the look of Steven Universe and its color pallete. I grew up with colorful palettes and clear backgrounds in shows like Kid's Next Door and Dexter's Lab. And they had consistant quality animation for the time. Steven Universe and Adventure Time just looks boring visually. And it does matter because this is the medium of Animation.

Er, I wouldn't use Dexter's Lab as an example for a colorful palette, and modern shows also have consistent quality animation for the time. Why does Steven Universe and Adventure Time look boring visually? Do you have your reasons? I feel it's nostalgia talking because Steven Universe does have clear backgrounds.

Edit:

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

Maybe it's because you're indirectly calling people who like it immature? At least it's the feeling I'm getting from the phrase "Expanded your horizons to more than just kids stuff". It implies that people who like it just like kids stuff.

 

[LunarRepublic]

Do you hate it because SJWs like it and thus the cartoon's accociated with them, or because of their own merits?
Perhaps a mix between the two, you've seen content in the shows that you think SJWs will like or something like that?

Things like Steve Universe pander to the SJW demographic and I can't stand it, though I recognize there's a seed of a great show there that unfortunately never sprouted.

Coming as someone who supports Gamergate and who's quite bitter about extreme feminism, I genuinely love Steven Universe.

I do remember when I first watched episodes of the show, the whole show just seemed so 'light'. Every episode seemed like a slice-of-life story that sometimes has action sprinkled in, and even the action itself isn't too intense. Not that the action isn't well thought out, but it's not as nail-biting as a fight from Samurai Jack or the original Powerpuff Girls.
Then you throw in the light pastel backgrounds and the sparkly soundtrack with high pitched synth instruments, and the impression I get is a show with barely any grit whatsoever.

I actually don't remember when I stuck with the show. I definitely stayed because I wanted to see more of the characters, and because there actually is an overarching plot that I want to see more of. It helps that I like the humor and the episodes are well written, though granted there's at least one annoying side character that makes Jar Jar Binks seem bearable.
And as 'SJW' as it sounds, I thought the show did a fantastic job with exploring complex relationships. Though it's all kid-friendly, the show really does dip into some mature issues without being painfully preachy, and it's nothing like I've ever seen in a Cartoon Network show that isn't an anime.

I get the complaint about the SJW support base, and yes this is the fandom where a fan artist got bullied into attempting suicide for drawing a normally fat character somewhat slimmer than usual. Try as I might, I personally can't fault a show because a number of its adult fans are utter scum of the earth. I think Steven Universe stands on its own merits.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
]

But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

There you go again, putting down people for having diffrent tastes and elevating yourself.

Thats cute and all but I have never see you praising those shows. When ever these types of threads show up you crticise shows that have rather mature themes because they seem childish/lighthearted on the surface or you dislike the asthetic. I remember you making a thread bemoaning the fact that a cartoon parody of Batman was being made. Batman, the most oversaturated edglord superhero, had the nerve to get a lighthearted spin off. Its pretty emblimatic of your views on entertainment media.

Was that the Lego Batman movie?

It was this one-

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.942115-Heres-your-Funner-Colorful-Humourous-DC-animated-movie

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
]

But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

There you go again, putting down people for having diffrent tastes and elevating yourself.

Thats cute and all but I have never see you praising those shows. When ever these types of threads show up you crticise shows that have rather mature themes because they seem childish/lighthearted on the surface or you dislike the asthetic. I remember you making a thread bemoaning the fact that a cartoon parody of Batman was being made. Batman, the most oversaturated edglord superhero, had the nerve to get a lighthearted spin off. Its pretty emblimatic of your views on entertainment media.

1. Mostly because what is there to say that hasn't been said when it comes to praise? I feel like praising Looney Tunes or Mario for how awesome they are, is like saying Water is Wet. What can I say differently in praise of it? If you want me to praise something nice for once than well the thing is most of the things I like are now irrelevent, they are not in the cultural mindset right now.

I can talk about how much I love shows like Fairly Oddparents, Danny Phantom, Hey Arnold, Ed, Edd, n Eddy, Ben 10, etc. but I feel not many people here would respond with enthusiam compared to say making a thread saying how much Adventure Time is good.

2. I have a very complicated relationship with Batman and Superhero things in general that you would not be able to comprehend but I will try.

A. The thing is I like Batman and know why he's a great character, but seeing him in things like Lego Batman and Brave and the Bold bothers me its a regresssion to the Silver Age which imo was a Dark Age for DC comic book stories, DC Comic Books sucked during the Silver Age compared to Marvel's Silver Age. To me bringing back the era of the Comics Code Authority which is the legacy of Fredric Wertham the huckster writer of the Seduction of the Innocent. So seeing Batman and to an extent Superheroes in general revert back to kiddy things is letting that huckster Wertham win. This Documentary cemented my thoughts on Superhero stuff:





B. My recent dislike of Batman came about when Moviebob made the opinion that Batman is way too oversaturated and in time I started to agree that Batman is way too oversaturated that it takes away any attention to other DC Heroes espcially Superman who I ended up growing to like more after certain Comics I read. And even in Comics and Animation I keep seeing Batman being the most important character in Flashpoint, in Clash between Worlds, Justice League Dark the animated movie.

I am tired of Batman.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

I never heard of Over the Garden Wall?

And the cartoons I watched as a kid had Emotional Depth aswell. I mean Samurai Jack taught people a lesson about Anger with Jack vs Mad Jack, Teen Titans had clear examples of this when it comes to things like Trust and Friendship. Rugrats had those moments aswell.

And do I have to mention Disney movies that I did watch? The Increadibles is the best possible movie Pixar ever made.

Thought we were talking TV here.
But everything you listed were a little, well shallow. Even with these examples, you're listing individual episodes while these days there's stuff like "Let's make a character study about someone whose mom died in childbirth" or "an extended study in paranoia and drifting away from your family"
Over the Garden Wall is themed around regret and death and borrows imagery from Twain and that era in American literature.

I thought we were just talking animation in general thus including movies?

Regardless of the portrayal of emotional depth its other factors at play here namely Art Style and Animation.

I have taste in these things and so far most Art Styles in current Cartoon Network shows feels bland and unappealing to my eyes.

I cannot stand the look of Steven Universe and its color pallete. I grew up with colorful palettes and clear backgrounds in shows like Kid's Next Door and Dexter's Lab. And they had consistant quality animation for the time. Steven Universe and Adventure Time just looks boring visually. And it does matter because this is the medium of Animation.

Steven Universe does have clear backgrounds.

Edit:

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

Maybe it's because you're indirectly calling people who like it immature? At least it's the feeling I'm getting from the phrase "Expanded your horizons to more than just kids stuff". It implies that people who like it just like kids stuff.

Ok this guy, THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, ruined Steven Universe in my eye, and be warned this guy is a grade A Political Troll that likes to trigger people with Trolly dickish statements (like dissing Jews for the trolly lolz) so discount those parts but the points he made about the show I agree with like the art style/background art and the overall story of Steven Universe and the extreme fandom it garnered:

 

[RaikuFA]

Zzzzzzzzzz.

I am sorry but this looks meh like many Cartoons from this channel for the past decade.

Camp Lazlow, My Gym Parnter's a Monkey, Chowder, Flapjack, Regular Show, Adventure Time, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Gumball, Clerance, Steven Universe, We Were Bears, the Fuckin Problem Solverz.

All of these are either bad or unmmemroable shows with bland, ugly, or forgettable artstyles and annimation.

The only few good Cartoons that came out of the post Cartoons Cartoons era was Ben 10 (The first 3 versions of it, Omniverse was a step back), Generator Rex, The Secret Saturdays (Underratted), and.....Sym-Bionic Titan..."sniff"

I don't count things like Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats 2011, or Young Justice or Star Wars Clone Wars 2008 becuase those aren't original programming.
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But of course the only good one out of those 4 the only good ones was Thundercats 2011 and Young Justice.

And the Powerpuff Girls reboot just sucks donkey balls:

Dude if you think We bare bears, gumball, adventure time, steven universe, RG are bad and forgetfull then yoy must be living in a rock and if you think they have bad and ugly animation then you need your eyes checked and you know that Channel tan is supposed to represent modern CN

You are talking to a wall. Sam has questionable tastes at best. If anything doesn't contain a grim or edgy element it is "objectivly" bad and everyone who enjoys anything outside of his narrow prefrences is an idiot unworthy of entertainment.

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

There you go again, putting down people for having diffrent tastes and elevating yourself.

Thats cute and all but I have never see you praising those shows. When ever these types of threads show up you crticise shows that have rather mature themes because they seem childish/lighthearted on the surface or you dislike the asthetic. I remember you making a thread bemoaning the fact that a cartoon parody of Batman was being made. Batman, the most oversaturated edglord superhero, had the nerve to get a lighthearted spin off. Its pretty emblimatic of your views on entertainment media.

Was that the Lego Batman movie?

It was this one-

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.942115-Heres-your-Funner-Colorful-Humourous-DC-animated-movie

Ugh. Just do what I do and ignore him. He just wants attention.

 

[PapaGreg096]

Like it or not animation has been dancing the tune of the Frederator network due to a cascade of hits. We're talking direct lines of people working for shows to getting new ones dating back to the success of Flapjack. Then MLP:FiM brought in a massive slice-of-life hit.

The traditional merch-driven stuff still exists (though Ben 10, as a whole, always sucked), but its creators wield a lot less influence than they did before... we're still using "New Sincerity" right? I mean, look at Wander Over Yander. Did not deserve its cancelation, but that style isn't as popular. Star Vs uses the same kind of humor but presents itself differently and hey, look, all the ratings.

Samtemdo, overall you're falling into the usual trap of assuming animation CAN'T have emotional depth, when that's what the current crop is all super about. It's never been a better time to have adult tastes and watch animation. Thoughts on "Over the Garden Wall"? Also Samurai Jack's back and Genndy escaped the censors.

I never heard of Over the Garden Wall?

And the cartoons I watched as a kid had Emotional Depth aswell. I mean Samurai Jack taught people a lesson about Anger with Jack vs Mad Jack, Teen Titans had clear examples of this when it comes to things like Trust and Friendship. Rugrats had those moments aswell.

And do I have to mention Disney movies that I did watch? The Increadibles is the best possible movie Pixar ever made.

Thought we were talking TV here.
But everything you listed were a little, well shallow. Even with these examples, you're listing individual episodes while these days there's stuff like "Let's make a character study about someone whose mom died in childbirth" or "an extended study in paranoia and drifting away from your family"
Over the Garden Wall is themed around regret and death and borrows imagery from Twain and that era in American literature.

I thought we were just talking animation in general thus including movies?

Regardless of the portrayal of emotional depth its other factors at play here namely Art Style and Animation.

I have taste in these things and so far most Art Styles in current Cartoon Network shows feels bland and unappealing to my eyes.

I cannot stand the look of Steven Universe and its color pallete. I grew up with colorful palettes and clear backgrounds in shows like Kid's Next Door and Dexter's Lab. And they had consistant quality animation for the time. Steven Universe and Adventure Time just looks boring visually. And it does matter because this is the medium of Animation.

Steven Universe does have clear backgrounds.

Edit:

What must I do to prove that my taste aren't just Dark and Edgy shit?

I love Dexter's Lab, I love Mario, I love Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, I love One Piece even its funny moments. The thing is I grew up. My taste evolved, I expanded my horizons to more than just kid's stuff after watching things like There Will Be Blood, The Godfather, Martin Scorsese movies, Taratino movies, etc.

Maybe it's because you're indirectly calling people who like it immature? At least it's the feeling I'm getting from the phrase "Expanded your horizons to more than just kids stuff". It implies that people who like it just like kids stuff.

Ok this guy, THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, ruined Steven Universe in my eye, and be warned this guy is a grade A Political Troll that likes to trigger people with Trolly dickish statements (like dissing Jews for the trolly lolz) so discount those parts but the points he made about the show I agree with like the art style/background art and the overall story of Steven Universe and the extreme fandom it garnered:

Just tell me the statements you agree with because im not watching a video.