Cartoons ruined by executive meddling.

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Canadamus Prime

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Cheesus Crust said:
canadamus_prime said:
Wouldn't it make for a much shorter list to list the cartoons that weren't ruined by executive meddling?
Sometimes when executives meddle there's a big chance that the show is really crap. This is about those great shows that get ruined because of executives. Just wondering what else out there is great but got tossed under the bus.
Yeah, I knew that. I still think it'd make a much shorter list to list the ones that weren't ruined by executive interference.
 

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Nantucket said:
... My young nephew took the news lighter than you and he's five.
Cartoons come and ago.

Think about the poor kids from the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon - they never even got home because it got cancelled.
Guess we don't like the show in the same way.

FirebirdXR said:
Disney with the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Spectacular Spider-Man, and Tron.
But the two former may be because of Marvel.
What do you mean may be because of Marvel? Can you elaborate on that?
 

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I see it's been mentioned already, but not from what I've examined.

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. And not just because of "Alicorn Twilight". (I call her "Succubus Twilight")

I loved this show because, when Lauren Faust was running it, the series was very unconventional. It took slice of life fantasy stories about friendship and stuff while playing it straight. It was about the characters, their relationships with one another, their own development, and the challenges they faced. The stories were very well-written. However, lately, it's been less about that and more about "what cheap gimmick can we throw at them this time"?

Twilight Sparkle's succubus transformation makes absolutely no sense. Allow me to explain.

She has done nothing to show for any skill in ruling a nation or any portion of land populated by other intelligent lifeforms. She has not shown herself to have skills remotely relevant to any form of monarchy. Rather, her skills are more fitted to that of a knight. That would have made a lot more sense. Also, why didn't Shining Armor get the alicorn minarch position? He's married to one of them, making him a prince, and he's already been a captain of the royal guard. He's shown himself to be ready to take on such a position. What's more is that, despite what some people are trying to excuse, the transformation is not character development. Character development was when Rainbow Dash got to try out for the Wonderbolts and came across Lightning Dust, who was much like how Dash was in Season 1, and... everything that happened there. Character development was when Rarity began to bring Sweetie Belle into her life more. Character development is Dan finally starting to get along with Elise and saying "thank you" for the first time. Turning into an alicorn is not character development. It's a status update.

There were some other things that made no sense in the latest episode. Like how is mixing up the elements supposed to switch up what Twilight's friends' talents are supposed to be? And why did the entire town suddenly get amnesia? Case in point... "What's this? A unicorn (Rarity) with absolutely no experience or ability whatsoever in weather control? Let's make her captain of the weather team! What could possibly go wrong?" The five of them moved out of their own homes and decided to change their careers on a whim simply because some tattoos of theirs got screwed up by complete accident. That's stupid.

Another example would be Cartoon Network's Sym-Bionic Titan. It was cancelled because it wasn't selling enough childrens' toys. It's not a childrens' show!

And how about Nickelodeon's Invader Zim, anyone? Wasn't it cancelled because of the whole "Bloody GIR" thing? So re-do the shot! The "bad future" scene was re-done in the "Skool Fundraiser" episode. So why not a simple shot? And if it was because GIR looked like he had blood on him, then explain stuff like iCarly which had at least one scene where someone was just spraying blood. In fact... explain a lot of iCarly. It's loaded with far more inappropriate things than Invader Zim ever was.
 

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Cartoons f*cked up by executive nitwits? There is a classic example, and it's one that a lot of younger people will never get to see as a result. Looney Tunes (the originals). Not the lame sh*t they have now, but the old school Looney Tunes, that'd have Bugs Bunny dressed in drag, or two guys shipwrecked on a deserted island, when something explodes in their face, and turns their faces black (i.e. blackface). You will also (if you're old enough) remember Daffy Duck blowing himself up onstage, only to have that one short hacked up so it didn't happen at all. You will also not see, now, or ever more, Speedy Gonzales, and his cousin, Slowpoke. The reason for that one was because it was 'too racial'. Now, who's responsible for all this editing, removing from networks, and banning?

Turner Broadcasting, and more specifically, Ted Turner himself. How's that for a cartoon that got boned by a corporation?

It took me awhile to find them, but here they are... some of the things I mentioned.


Most of these were pulled off the air (and eventually, even June Bugs was screwed with) because someone somewhere thought they were damaging to kids. If Tom & Jerry is still on the air, beating the crap out of each other (Spike included), why can we not have Looney Tunes the way they were originally aired?

Oh, anything by 4Kids... they f*ck everything up.

That's all I've got for now. When I find more, I'll either post, or update.
 

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EternalNothingness said:
lithium.jelly said:
I don't want to start an argument with this post, but I'm gonna say Alicorn Twilight. It might be too early to say for sure, but I am extremely concerned what this might do to season four.
I once saw a leaked story-board image of Spike calling Twilight "impossible to live with" ever since she received wings.


That means it might be like three of those episodes of Pound Puppies (including King of the Heap, Dog on a Wire, and Rebel Without a Collar), where the main-character realizes that the new life she earned is no replacement for the old life she once spent with her friends.

For those of you who don't know when I referenced Pound Puppies, three of the aforementioned episodes tackled characters choosing between their friends and whatever new lives they started developing for themselves. In King of the Heap, Niblet became the new ruler of a trash-dump, but became so consumed by power that he almost forgets his friends. In Dog on a Wire, Strudel would also nearly do the same thing, except this time with the circus. Lastly, in Rebel Without a Collar, Cookie would almost abandon her fellow Pound Puppies just to be with a coyote named Fang.

If three of the main-characters of Pound Puppies once went through giving up their friends and old lives for new ones, only to return later on, then I'm sure Twilight will realize how royalty is no replacement for friends as well, as implied in that story-board image.

But other than that, yeah, I agree. Princess Twilicorn wreaks of executive meddling, and I hope the writers find a way to reverse that change for the S4 premiere.
I kinda doubt it, really, but if it were to go that way I would not be unhappy. I am willing to put up with an episode or two of contrived crap if it means we get rid of those wings.
 

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Cheesus Crust said:
Zeke63 said:
Your enthusiasm is interesting. Cause i though korra really excellled due to its concision. I know a lot of fans think it was underdeveloped but i think the opposite. Its the same reson these last episodes of young justice are so intense and good. Im actually worried korra will suffer from extension
Interesting input. I myself liked that conciseness that you're talking about but some of the things just felt really rushed. Okay just to clarify, the thing that annoyed me the most about the very quick pacing of the story was the romantic plot tumor. Its like one minute he has a girlfriend the next its head over heels for Korra. I do like how each episode of the show managed to move several plot threads forward whilst moving the main plot forward. Each episode really had an impact on the story's overall progression.

I don't think we need to be afraid of over extending though. From what I saw on wiki the next few season will only be a few episodes longer. Hopefully they hit the golden mean in terms of conciseness and story devoplment.
I can see how one could have issue with the romantic sub plot, i know a lot that do. But i think thats because people just see it as angst and the like, not getting at the deeper meaning. Korra in a sense defies gender roles and challenges Mako's sense of masculinity and self due to her greatness/being the avatar despite being a woman. This idea is even demonstrated in her body not being curvy, whereas asumi appears the archtypical patriarchal beauty ie super curvy, white, long hair, rich etc. In this sense the romance is really gender aware, as is the show in general, and so i really enjoy it. So Makos being torn between them is like someone being torn between normative, constructed desires and their actual more nuanced ones liberated from convention. Hope there is more stuff like this, though not necessarily the love triangle again