Cataclysm To Do List

[lorrdmatt]

1. Get a life. (Half ironic post, so don't flame me)
2. Play Mass Effect 2.
3. Get a job, sir! The bums will always lose!

haha i'm not gonna flame you lol but I do have a life, have already finished ME2 twice AND have a pretty good job! Just want something to play in the time when I'm not working/at university/spending time with my girlfriend and my housemates you know? I'm not the kind of person who can just play 30 minutes or an hour of a console game, I like to play them for hours, but WoW I can very easily just sit down and play for a while and when I've gotta go somewhere I can just leave it.

Also, whilst I appreciate everyone telling me to not go back to WoW for the sake of my sanity or social life, my first post did say that I'd already bought Cata. I'm not going to abandon it without playing it because some people are saying it's bad. Besides, I think I'd like to form my own opnion of it

 

[lorrdmatt]

Some of the redone old world zones are pretty sweet. Make a human and do Westfall/Redridge again cos they're very good now. Oh, and 1k needles is awesome, go check that out when you hit 40 ish.

Endgame though its mostly the same old crap though. Reliance on other people knowing what they're doing hinders most of the fun you'll have. The new dungeons (80-85 ones) are well worth a look though.

I've already got an 80 character, so I was playing on just flying around and seeing everything before I got stuck in with any questing. I've seen what 1000 Needles looks like and I'm gonna check it out Also I was thinking of rolling a Worgen, just for the craic.

 

[Knocker]

To quote Iron Maiden - Run to the hills. Run for your lives.

 

[Fishyash]

Vash'jir seems to be the place then or just unsubscribing and burning all my game discs on a huge pyre lol I know WoW threads are always like this, no matter what expansion pack the game is on, there's always people who say the game was better before this or that however there does seem to be more people being negaive about Cata than anything else. Is there any particular reason why?

There have been plenty of reasons to quit WoW in the past, but the beginning of cataclysm seemed like a great thing. Revamped quests in vanilla WoW, with a redesign of the whole world, a completely revamped quest system, and PvE content that has become more challenging. Arena PvP less around killing someone within a 10 second CC, or bursting someone down by casting all nukes (lock/shaman/druid) or tunneling the healer without any crowd control with unpeelable pressure (dk/warr/pala). They wanted to slow down the ridiculous pace that PvP was going.

But... it turns out that cataclysm was just a huge chunk of broken promises. Major content patches giving less and less content, I mean, a major content patch with just two revamped heroics? And then another patch with just 2-3 new quest chains and some dailies? Nerfs to PvE content (I have never understood why blizzard nerfs PvE. It just boggles my mind). PvP is in a state worse than in wotlk. On par with shadowmourne warriors, with a clearly broken MMR that didn't even get fixed/reset for the next patch (people getting rank 1 with a 50-50 win/loss ratio).

But that's just my opinion. There are still plenty of ways to enjoy WoW. It's a lot of fun still if you don't care about pvp balance.

 

[lorrdmatt]

There are still plenty of ways to enjoy WoW. It's a lot of fun still if you don't care about pvp balance.

Well that's the thing PvP was never really one of the things I spent much time on. I was all raids and achievement hunting and exploring.

 

[Caedus]

Nerfs to PvE content (I have never understood why blizzard nerfs PvE. It just boggles my mind.

In WoW Vanilla, the top PvE content was only open to a few select guilds. 2 months before LK, they nerfed every bosses in BC raids (-30% hp on each) toprevent gamers from unsubscribing because of mere boredom (what's the point in raiding and getting the T6.5 when it'll be outdated a few months later with LK?).

Casual guilds were happy to be able to kill Illidan, etc. I was in a serious guild and with 3-4 raids a week, we were stuck on Illidan and Archimonde. A week later, we downed them and stopped raiding. Figures...

During LK, T7 and T8 were nice and hard enough to offer a challenge. Activision bought a big share of Blizzard and it became the abomination Blizzard-Activision (KSSSS!). They wanted casual (reaaaaally casual) players to be able to raid in the top tier raids of the moment (T9) and they nerfed every encounters a week after the patch.

They continued with this strategy in mind:
1. Offer new raid content;
2. Let a week or so pass;
3. Nerf the raid content;
4. Nerf classes because of PvP whining;
5. Repeat steps 1 through 3 and implement step 4 randomly.

Here you go.

I quit WoW in march but friends of mine have been playing and when I ask them if it's worth coming back while waiting for SW:TOR, they always tell me not to bother... I wonder why?

 

[Delsana]

Well in Homeworld: Cataclysm, the game is most like the first one albeit with a few more unique abilities.

So first, you'll want to build up strike-craft fleets until it becomes a focus on frigates, at that point focus on multi-beams and hive frigates. Eventually you'll get destroyers and the dreadnought and at that point it should be cake and just the process of keeping those ship lines filled. The Siege Cannon on the Somtaaw mining ship doesn't really mean much except in story.

Remember, REPULSION FIELD is your friend.

 

[Fishyash]

There are still plenty of ways to enjoy WoW. It's a lot of fun still if you don't care about pvp balance.

Well that's the thing PvP was never really one of the things I spent much time on. I was all raids and achievement hunting and exploring.

I didn't mean to just say pvp balance in that sentence, but yeah it's the inferior part of the game by far anyways.

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I mean, there are better solutions than simply nerfing it across the board for everyone. The next tier of gear is basically a nerf as it is, but how about, adding an easy mode? I mean for ALL raids. Nerf the gear if necessary, they can drop the stuff an ilvl or 2.

But I'm also talking about stuff like, nerfing bosses in heroic 5-mans, and CCing targets no longer pulling enemies (they wanted to make heroics a decent transition from dungeons to raids again, and they were, for a patch, and then it got nerfed down to wotlk level again). They made a learning curve spike that they simply decide to fix by nerfing everything.

But the philosiphy of nerfing stuff still boggles me. (here's something rather ridiculous sounding but is how I feel with it), Let's say I loved super mario bros. But some people find it too hard to get to world 8-4. Then nintendo decides to release a new version of super mario bros. that has half the difficulty (if I referenced to SMB2(USA) at all, it was by accident).

The problem I have is that people feel entitled to seeing all the content for some reason. I personally haven't beaten super mario bros, but it doesn't mean the game should be easier, I think I should be stepping up my game! Perseverance makes the result lots more rewarding, but unfortunately the majority of WoW raiders don't seem to feel the same way I do.

Okay that's the end of my rant, it wasn't directed at you though. I dunno, but I was not suprised by the slightest when TB decided to quit WoW... again...

 

[Caedus]

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Imagine how we feeled just before LK. We spent weeks and weeks of wipes, frustrating nights, theorycrafting, discussing the different strategies found by elite guilds (Fallen, Ensidia), tinkering with them. Each time peeling off a couple % more of the bosses' health bar.

Then, suddenly, they are nerfed, lose almost a third of their HP pool and everyone down them.

We felt stupid. Instead of actually trying, we could have taken the easy way and waited a couple weeks... Plus, all kind of stupid people were finishing these raids with a simple pick-up raid. "HEY§ LOOKIN FOR HEALRS AND TANKS FOR BT§§§LOL BLADES OF ILLIDAN FOR SOMEONE WHEN FINISHED§§XDD"...

I remember a night when I was bored and decided to see how the unprepared fared in Black Temple (pun intended, it's bad, I know). It was pure chaos and we managed to down the Illidari Council! oO Then I went back to chilling in front of the Aldor bank in Shattrath, waiting for LK and a change of pace... :/

If I wanted, I could go back to WoW now, pull some strings and contacting old IG friends and get into a serious raid or something. I just don't know if it's worth the time and money anymore. Sure it could be fun to send some Pyroblast in Deathwing's face but...

 

[Isalan]

Some of the redone old world zones are pretty sweet. Make a human and do Westfall/Redridge again cos they're very good now. Oh, and 1k needles is awesome, go check that out when you hit 40 ish.

Endgame though its mostly the same old crap though. Reliance on other people knowing what they're doing hinders most of the fun you'll have. The new dungeons (80-85 ones) are well worth a look though.

I've already got an 80 character, so I was playing on just flying around and seeing everything before I got stuck in with any questing. I've seen what 1000 Needles looks like and I'm gonna check it out Also I was thinking of rolling a Worgen, just for the craic.

Tbh, Gobbo starting zone is much better than the Worgen one, but its still a good time. New 80 zones are pretty good, Hyjal is nice (though I ain't played since 3.2 so it might be a bit crowded with daily grinders), and Deepholm is lovely. Defintely go back and do the old world again though, the redone zones are the best bit imo.

 

[Furioso]

This is probably the worst place to ask this, nearly this entire site is anti WoW, I won't get into it but its very one sided, anywho, I highly enjoyed Vash'Jir or however you spell it, and Uldum is one giant tribute to Indiana Jones, but its really all up to you, I enjoyed most of the new expansion, part of the fun is to discover it all on your own