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crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
I kill him EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. At least Ashley had dimensions as a character, even if she was an overt racist. Kaiden was just... there. And wasn't useful as a squad character, either. Nope. Easy choice, every time.
 

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Gordon Freeman is supposed to be you. You if your name was Gordon Freeman and you worked as a theoretical physicist. His emotions are not defined at all so you can fill in the blanks. It's sort of like this.

If you have a character that's predetermined in every way, it feels more like you're controlling someone who's on a quest, making it harder to jump into their shoes. If they don't really show anything, it becomes a whole lot easier. That's why nothing has happened yet with Alyx, it's because it would ruin that feeling.
I suppose that makes sense...though it's strange that they gave us the theoretical physicist role when it never really amounts to anything after HL1 (Welcome back! Off you go!).
I never got the impression of Freeman being me while playing though. It always felt like I was playing some unfortunate bloke who was given the world's greatest (and only) set of power armor just as an excuse for everyone to make him to their dirty work.

This really hit me in the face when the "Follow Freeman!" chapter started, because I began to question just how it is that all of these 20-40 something year olds know who I am or why they would ever consider me to be a military leader (sure, there's something to be said about leading by example, but I seriously doubt history's greatest field commanders were mute).

Barney was much better-suited towards that end IMO, if only because he could talk.

The intention is creative, but I just don't jive with the execution.
This puts all the hype into perspective though. No wonder everyone loves this guy; they're really just stroking their own egos.

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Chuck norris.
I just have to sigh everytime i hear a chuck norris joke.
Yea.. gonna get sighed to death soon i guess.
Or blinded coz you know someones gonna just have to post a chuck norris picture.
Oh good grief. This.
Chuck Norris is a D-Rate action star with 2nd rate martial arts skills. That's all. Even in his hayday, there were better martial arts actors. The guy appeared in a Bruno Mattei film for fuck's sake!

David Carradine was better than that chump, and he could actually act to boot!
Just for comparison: Chuck Norris gave us Sidekicks, David Carradine gave us Kill Bill.
 

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Thank you. I agree completely. The only female character I liked was Brigitte (and Min at first, before she wore dresses).

I don't think the undercurrent was feminist though. Quite the opposite really when you think about it. The female characters all acted like chauvinists think women in power would act.

For my own list:
Ashely Williams - Mass Effect
Antonio - ACII
Aerie - Baldur's Gate 2
Alistair - Dragon age

...wow. I guess I have something against the letter A. That wasn't intentional, I swear.
Well, Robert Jordan wrote Conan comics for years, so I suppose the chauvinist attitude is to be somewhat expected. I guess feminist may the wrong word, but I use it in the sense that women were presented as (over)empowered, while the men were largely denigrated.
 

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JamesBr said:
Nynaeve from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. The entire time she comes of as a self righteous ***** where the only reason she hasn't been slapped yet is because she a woman. Not to be sexist, but any person as abrasive as this character would have gotten the shit kicked out of them eventually, even if it was by another woman. And this series is supposed to take place in pseudo-medieval times. Why nobody even stands up to her abusive demeanor I don't really understand. Sure, she gets it a little bit in her training, but all this does is let her access the ability to ALTER REALITY (eg: magic). She stays a stuck up ***** pretty much the entire series.

Actually, the Wheel of Time had kind of a strong feminist undercurrent that got really preachy after a while. I disliked most of the female characters in the series as a result. The men were treated largely like either plague dogs or idiot man-children. The women were mostly pretentious and stuck-up, assured of their superiority in a way that makes my teeth grind. Few were genuinely likable.
Have you read the latest book? I'll message you spoilers if you want, but she does get a good beat-down at one point.
 

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LarenzoAOG said:
crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
Is it because he's a whiny little ***** that sounds like a 13 year old boy in Mass Effect? Or because he was a whiny little ***** that sounds like a 13 year old boy in KOTOR as well? Ialmost stopped playing Mass Effect when I realized it was the same voice actor that played Carth in KOTOR, I couldn't leave Kaiden to blow up fast enough on Virmire.
I actually liked Carth. He had a nice character, and I didn't mind his voice.

deathbydeath said:
crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
reply: i haven't. why?
real post: pretty much every leading character from naruto other than iruka and gaara.
He is whiny, useless in battle, not a good character, and would not shut up. I choose to blow him up on Virmire every time and that scene never stops being satisfying. My friends and I have been known to start a new game, complete Virmire, and stop playing that save to do it again.

Murais said:
crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
I kill him EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. At least Ashley had dimensions as a character, even if she was an overt racist. Kaiden was just... there. And wasn't useful as a squad character, either. Nope. Easy choice, every time.
That racism was a great character flaw with a good back story too! Kaidan just takes up space and wastes precious oxygen which I hear is rare in space!
 

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if anyone here has ever read (or tried to read) the pile of crap that is Ed Greenwood's Spellfire/Shandril Saga, they'll know what it's like to hope for the main character to die. ok, we get it, she's a pacifist (so am i), but for god's sake! you're being hunted by several organizations of sociopaths who have already massacred hundreds or thousands of people in their attempt to capture you, and they show no indication of ever giving up. at some point you have to accept that those people have to die. get over yourself and either kill the bastards, or do the world a favor and kill yourself. /rant
 

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ShogunGino said:
I rarely hate characters. Very few EVER get on my nerves. I.E., Jar Jar never really bothered me. No, I don't like him, and I do think he's a poor character, but he just never brought out the hate in me.

That said, one character that I wil NEVER like is Ariel from The Little Mermaid. To date, this is the only Disney theatrical feature that actively pisses me off. Why?

She's a selfish, thoughtless Mary Sue who suffers no consequences for her actions, learns nothing from her mistakes, and goes through no development throughout the movie. Her motivation is just to get the love of a man whom she claims she loves after just watching him dance and play a flute and then save some of his men from a storm. When she doesn't get her way, she seeks the help of a witch who tried TO OVERTHROW HER FATHER (this was revealed not in the movie, but in the original cut of the villain song), and gives up her voice to the obvious cheat. When she fails to have the guy kiss her after three days, her father just goes ahead and takes the punishment for her while her love interest kills the villain. She solves NOTHING in the plot, and gets everything she ever wanted at the end without earning an ounce of it.

The character's popularity as well as the movie's confounds me. Yes, the animation and songs are great, and the villain kicks ass, but its just not enough to make up for an awful heroine and water-bland hero. Worse still is that I have to reluctantly thank the movie for revitalizing the 2D animation industry for at least another decade, as without it, the "Disney Renaissance" wouldn't have happened, which means Aladdin and Hunchback of Notre Dame, two of my favorite animated films, wouldn't have been made, as well as inspiring Warner Brothers to kick off their TV animation boom in the early 90's, which means Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Freakazoid, and probably even Batman: Animated series(as well as the rest of the DC Animated Universe) would've never happened.
To be fair, the character of Ariel was subjected to Disneyfication to the Nth degree. In the original Danish fairy tale she's supposed to kill the prince and in return will be turned back into a mermaid. She refuses to do so out of love and throws herself into the sea, dissolving into foam (read: kills herself) and ascends to Heaven for her sacrifice. I agree with you that her character in the movie is hollow and selfish, but that's just Disney for you. They wouldn't have a character commit suicide no matter the reason, especially in the late 80's.
 

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Krystal- Star Fox
She's the only one that comes to my mind at this time, I'll get back to you though.
 

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SadisticPretzel said:
JamesBr said:
Nynaeve from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. The entire time she comes of as a self righteous ***** where the only reason she hasn't been slapped yet is because she a woman. Not to be sexist, but any person as abrasive as this character would have gotten the shit kicked out of them eventually, even if it was by another woman. And this series is supposed to take place in pseudo-medieval times. Why nobody even stands up to her abusive demeanor I don't really understand. Sure, she gets it a little bit in her training, but all this does is let her access the ability to ALTER REALITY (eg: magic). She stays a stuck up ***** pretty much the entire series.

Actually, the Wheel of Time had kind of a strong feminist undercurrent that got really preachy after a while. I disliked most of the female characters in the series as a result. The men were treated largely like either plague dogs or idiot man-children. The women were mostly pretentious and stuck-up, assured of their superiority in a way that makes my teeth grind. Few were genuinely likable.
Have you read the latest book? I'll message you spoilers if you want, but she does get a good beat-down at one point.
I've only read up to the tenth, I didn't even know the series went up to fourteen, I thought they were going to stop at twelve after Robert Jordan died. I'll take spoilers though, it might get me back into the series. I have the rest of the books, I really should finish.
 

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Worgen said:
the entire cast of evenglion
yup pretty much. except the EVAs of course
(you know something's wrong when the giant robot/alien is more likable than it's pilot)
 

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Atmos Duality said:
Gordon Freeman

Who the hell is he? Why does everyone love him? He has less personality than Keanau Reeves for fuck's sake! The only time I get any information on his character is when it's being delivered in second-hand exposition.

Half-Life 2 is great and all, but Gordon Freeman just might be the absolute most boring part of it all.
Ding, agreed.

Also, Kaiden Alenko and Ashley Williams, fiery...Burning...Hatred...
 

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crudus said:
LarenzoAOG said:
crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
Is it because he's a whiny little ***** that sounds like a 13 year old boy in Mass Effect? Or because he was a whiny little ***** that sounds like a 13 year old boy in KOTOR as well? Ialmost stopped playing Mass Effect when I realized it was the same voice actor that played Carth in KOTOR, I couldn't leave Kaiden to blow up fast enough on Virmire.
I actually liked Carth. He had a nice character, and I didn't mind his voice.

deathbydeath said:
crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
reply: i haven't. why?
real post: pretty much every leading character from naruto other than iruka and gaara.
He is whiny, useless in battle, not a good character, and would not shut up. I choose to blow him up on Virmire every time and that scene never stops being satisfying. My friends and I have been known to start a new game, complete Virmire, and stop playing that save to do it again.

Murais said:
crudus said:
Kaiden Alenko from Mass Effect. If you have been to these types of threads with me then you know why.
I kill him EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. At least Ashley had dimensions as a character, even if she was an overt racist. Kaiden was just... there. And wasn't useful as a squad character, either. Nope. Easy choice, every time.
That racism was a great character flaw with a good back story too! Kaidan just takes up space and wastes precious oxygen which I hear is rare in space!
I wouldn't mind Carth or Kaiden if they weren't one dimensiional whiners, the second I realized whothe actor was I said "Great, something involving his past and some romantic interest lost will come up in converstaion," I was right on the money, but this time it wasn't a dead wife, it was a teenage girl he fancied when they were in brain camp, move on mother fucker!
 

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Aragorn from Lord of the Rings.

Jessie thinks I hate him is because he has beard stubble & I (Trichotillomaniac that I am) had to see it on the big screen for hours & hours through 3 movies, with no shaving redemption in sight.

Shanna thinks I hate him because I thought Elrond was hot & Elrond didn't seem to like him.

I love how shallow my friends think I am. lol XD
 

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I honestly didn't mind Carth or Kaiden... they actually act more like most actual war heroes I've met than almost any game characters I've seen... y'know, damaged.
 

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Moira Brown {Fallout 3}. Ugh. Just Ugh.

I'm not a fan of teenage Ezio, either.

Or (insert JRPG character here)
 

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Any main character by Chuck Palahniuk. I have nothing against him, but he seems to have a habit of steadily churning out people that are less stable than unununium. One man didn't seem to notice the fact that he had ENOUGH BITS OF MODEL HOMES IN HIS FEET TO BUILD A MODEL CHURCH. A whole, fully detailed CHURCH. I can understand the mood of his books (to show the darker side of humanity) but can you show it through the mind of a perfectly sane person for once, please?
 

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Pretty much everyone from Metroid: Other M. Especially Adam, I despise him lots and lots. I hate him so much he actually ruined my ability to enjoy that game, not that it would have been particularly great without him, but at least if he weren't there it woulda been forgettable fun.

But no, he had to ruin everything by being an all around horrible person and turning Samus into an unlikeable, stupid, codependent, victim girl. I hate that game and wish I'd never played it.
 

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AjimboB said:
Moria from Fallout 3 (she was the reason I blew up megaton).
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Isn't it funny how she's the only survivor ^_^ I loved her and that other crazy chick who talk about the grass and offers you a cookie but it just turns out to be a tin can.