Character's you hate from stories that you love

[Ryallen]

From the very beginning, I didn't like Finn or Princess Bubblegum in Adventure Time. I always felt that PB was using Finn because he was always the easiest to use against her enemies, such as Ice King and the Duke of Nuts. Finn came off as an arrogant prick that needed to be taken down several pegs because he wasn't that great a hero to begin with. Well, I never liked Adventure Time that much until about halfway through, so maybe they don't belong here.

Mad Moxxi is a terrible person. I hated the ***** by the time I finished Borderlands 2 and the Pre-Sequel did nothing to help, because by that time my opinion of her couldn't have gone down anymore than it already had. She was petty, she was unpleasant to be around, she was vengeful, she was just not a nice person. Lilith, on the other hand, I learned to hate once I reached Pre-Sequel. They are both back-stabbing bitches who sell you out the instant they feel like it, despite Jack having proven a somewhat reliable ally up until then. It wasn't until they saw the eye that they betrayed him. Roland was the only person who understood what Jack had to go through as a leader and the gravity of the decisions he had to make for the sake of the mission. Roland even apologized to him once the Eye was blown up. And then, at the end of the game,

Spoiler

Lilith tried to have Athena killed, despite it being clearly shown that Jack's insanity was LILITH'S fault and not Athena's.

Don't even get me started on Yoko from Gurren Lagann. I've explained it far too many times to far too many people for me to write it out now. Let me just say that she became a MASSIVE ***** once

Spoiler

Kamina died and Nia showed up

and she never really made up for it.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Spoiler

From the very beginning, I didn't like Finn or Princess Bubblegum in Adventure Time. I always felt that PB was using Finn because he was always the easiest to use against her enemies, such as Ice King and the Duke of Nuts. Finn came off as an arrogant prick that needed to be taken down several pegs because he wasn't that great a hero to begin with. Well, I never liked Adventure Time that much until about halfway through, so maybe they don't belong here.

Mad Moxxi is a terrible person. I hated the ***** by the time I finished Borderlands 2 and the Pre-Sequel did nothing to help, because by that time my opinion of her couldn't have gone down anymore than it already had. She was petty, she was unpleasant to be around, she was vengeful, she was just not a nice person. Lilith, on the other hand, I learned to hate once I reached Pre-Sequel. They are both back-stabbing bitches who sell you out the instant they feel like it, despite Jack having proven a somewhat reliable ally up until then. It wasn't until they saw the eye that they betrayed him. Roland was the only person who understood what Jack had to go through as a leader and the gravity of the decisions he had to make for the sake of the mission. Roland even apologized to him once the Eye was blown up. And then, at the end of the game,

Spoiler

Lilith tried to have Athena killed, despite it being clearly shown that Jack's insanity was LILITH'S fault and not Athena's.

Don't even get me started on Yoko from Gurren Lagann. I've explained it far too many times to far too many people for me to write it out now. Let me just say that she became a MASSIVE ***** once

Spoiler

Kamina died and Nia showed up

and she never really made up for it.

I thought that was kind of the point of Borderlands. Everyone, from the psychos to bartenders to shopkeepers to random strangers, is a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling, and the only two real hero for light years around die pathetic, miserable deaths (Within about 2 minutes of each other).

 

[ecoho]

rand al'thor: wheel of time.

im sorry people keep telling me it was his story but as far as im concerned he was just a McGuffin put in early to solve problems that may come in by the end. he was petty and unlikable for the vast majority of the books (in part because he was going nuts but still) only really opening up after the sixth or seventh book then took two more to actually become likable.


yenifer: witcher 3

just don't like her, actually that implies she made me feel anything. honestly I could give zero fucks about her.

 

[Callate]

Dawn from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Iris from The Flash (at least, Season 1- some are claiming she gets better)- and for almost exactly the same reason.

Which could be summed up, snarkily, as: "Would you stop with all the end-of-the-world-preventing and life-saving and focus on me and my high-strung, self-centered emotional needs?"

 

[Worgen]

Spike from MLP:FIM. Not because I actually hate him, but because its not uncommon for them to pair him with Rarity and I really really hate the dynamic of their personalities. Plus the fandom tends to ship them together, which I just find absolutely creepy.

Rodger from American Dad. Ok, I don't hate him either but I'm starting too more and more. They just keep making him more and more of an ass, to the point where I'm like "bullet to the head, lets go." It was fine when he was just kind of a sociopath, but they have been going a further and further with that to the point that its almost removed all his redeeming qualities. That includes his ability to be entertaining.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. And only that version of her.

Because what's the point of having the rest of the team if she's already the best hacker, fighter, sniper, dectective, puppet master, and underworld contact person?

Give any of the other vastly more interesting characters a fucking niche please.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

I'm generally cheesed at the SEVERAL NPCS in Phantasy Star Online 2 who are members of ARKS (Essentially an intergalactic peacekeeping force typically dealing with a particularly nasty alien face that infests other lifeforms), and these same members are like "I dun wanna fight. I only joined to use ARKS resources for X reason, I really don't wanna help stop these aliens from consuming the galaxy". Especially when one such NPC is your partner at the start of the game. There's a reason I nicknamed him "Useless". >: (

You don't join an army of badasses who are the only line of defense against this alien menace unless you WANT to fight giant space monsters! I mean, at LEAST sign up for a support role, not as a gunner on the front lines! Augh!

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Oh, and speaking of PSO games, FREAKIN SARISA from the DS game.

She's a newman. Essentially a space-elf. And we're supposed to believe that she's part of her race's military, and part of a strike force to survey the planet and eliminate things hostile to her race. She gets too empathetic and has doubts about the mission after meeting surface dwellers (after realizing they're NOT a pack of deranged killers like she was brainwashed into believing) and soon joins the "good guys" on the planet surface.

Picture that in your mind. Imagine the character

Now, here's a picture of her.

Spoiler

Yes. She DOES look like a 14 year old at most. AND SHE ACTS LIKE ONE. Yes, technically, her race is very long-lived (at least in this iteration of the series), so she's not ACTUALLY a child...But if it looks like a child and ACTS like a child...PROBABLY not the best pick for "elite strike unit". Even if she's just one of the grunts.

The best part though? If you're male, she will keep hinting that she likes you (making it practically explicit at the end where she keeps praising you and goes "oh , don't make me spell it out!". She even lays a claim on you in the post game by being all "HEY YOU STAY AWAY FROM !" if you talk to this other female NPC who is supposed to be the "hot rebel leader" type.

Again, she looks and acts like a child. If you're the Male Human Hunter, it's not so bad since he looks about the same age, but most of the other characters look at least 20. This is CREEPY.

If there was an option at the end to go "Oh, don't worry I care about you too 'Little sis'! " and crush her hopes and dreams I would have mashed that button so fast I'd need a replacement system.

Oh, and did I mention that the game finds it funny to have an octopus boss do the whole "lol naughty tentacles trope! Imma tickle you in a creepy way!" thing happening to her not just once in the main story, but then A SECOND TIME in a side quest for her? I mean, good GOD... That's just not funny. It's creepy. She's a goddamn 14 year old little sister stereotype, Japan! Cut it out!

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Anyway, I also rather dislike Delphine in Skyrim. I just don't like her attitude, and the way she and her buddy stonewall you at the end unless you do something that I REALLY feel is morally wrong, she basically goes "Oh hey, thanks for saving the world, but unless you do this morally reprehensible thing, you can go fuck yourself" >: ( The last time I completed the game, I downloaded a mod to make her no longer essential, and then I buried my flaming war axe in her face.

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Rush (the hero) from The Last Remnant.

He was literally so BAD, so goddamn unlikeable that I just quit the game entirely.

I mean, the combat system was clunky, but actually pretty neat, and the world and story was kind of interesting...But the main character, around whom all of this is told is such a colossal MORON that I just could not enjoy the game.

To whit:
"OH NOES a demon looking guy ganked my little sister and teleported her away! Time to run in a random direction forward until I find her!"
"Oh look, I see a battlefield and there's a woman on it. IT MUST BE MY SISTER (even though she's small and the woman is fully grown with a sword in hand)! Time to tackle her to the ground while the army's superweapon is firing, endangering both our lives! Oh wait, oops, it's not my sister and now we've gotten trapped in a cave!"

I gave the game a good 7 hours or so and it didn't get any better, soo....*uninstall*

Like...Just look at this cutscene. Augh.


If the main character had just been a reckless hothead, but not DUMB, then I'd have stuck around, as the story and other characters were alright, and so was the gameplay. But after scene upon SCENE of that idiotic oaf as the main character making an ass of himself I couldn't deal with it anymore. It's like when your 10 year old brother is playing a DND campaign with your group and everyone else is taking things somewhat seriously, but he's all "I RUN AT THE DRAGON!!! I HIGH FIVE THE KING! YAYYYYY!!!". x_x

 

[Wolf Hagen]

Paul Artreides in the Book (not the Film) Dune.

by the halfway point I was begging for the bad guys to win, just because how much of a Marty Stu he is in that book.
People told me, he gets more depth in later pooks, but thats about 300 pages too late.

Still can take or leave him in the David Lynch movie.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Think i'll go for Erika from Umineko No Naku Koro Ni Chiru. There are no words to describe just how badly I hate her, yes she's one of the bad guys but and takes a lot of shit from her... teammates? The other ladies on her side of the chessboard but they hardly do much in the way of "helping"

Bern relentlessly ridicules her in every other scene they share and Bern could be described as her mother so that's vaguely tragic if you think about it and the game does try to show her in a sympathetic light sometimes but like... She's still a fucking *****. Tragic circumstances and sad backstory aside, she is a fucking ****. A manipulative, spiteful ***** and is possibly the sorest loser you will ever see.

I mean when she introduces herself as, and I quote "an intellectual rapist" within her first few scenes and she's super proud of it, you know this is going to be... interesting? She gets shit done too which is the most aggravating. I think in a pure win/loss percentage going scene by scene she goes maybe 75/80% wins vs Battler's 25/20%. Battler just makes a couple of awesome comebacks so his wins are super cool but Erika is just so competent and consistent throughout when it comes to solving mysteries.

I've just grasped why she's so irritating actually, it's how she's so good at winning through bullshit underhanded moves and all the good guys can do is impotently seethe with rage as she taunts on and on with her disgusting personality. I just want to say "Battler, body this *****" and he rarely ever does cuz you have someone trying to play fair and the other playing to win using anything and everything to her advantage.

Annoyingly enough though, Erika pretty much singlehandedly makes Chiru ten times more interesting just by her presence... The game would be much worse without her and I hate to admit it.

To be fair Erika is custom built to be a mary-sue (literally, she's a self insert character who everybody (at first) don't stop saying how smart she is), making the subversion so much better, she's definitely a character I loved to hate.

Oh now that you mention it, you could say that Erika began as Bern having an opportunity to stretch her legs, to be the main character for a spell. Seeing as how for the entirety of the previous game Higurashi, she was playing a character so underpowered, ignorant and almost useless in solving the mysteries. Pretty much a living King in Chess, as if Umineko needed more Chess metaphors. Weak as hell compared to every other piece on the board yet still the most important.

Then she gets to drop her amazing self insert character into a similar mystery story setting and it's easy to see how refreshing that would be for her and how important it is for her to be in the centre stage being generally awesome... Thinking about it, Erika's introduction is crazy extended and it becomes less of a mere character introduction and more of a brand new character coming from nowhere and quickly taking over an entire story with scene after scene back to back going "look how i'm better than all of you at everything ever" with her brand new music blaring in the background the entire time. Really fuckin' good music too... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE7Qvi2V-8o]

Man I need to replay Umineko again, I find new layers to the story and characters every single time I even talk about it with someone. I never really thought of the self insert thing since Umineko up to that point had nothing Mary Sue like at all with no reason to add one so I was waiting for her to eventually lose or expose at least some flaws. Off the top of my head, the only flaws she shows early on is her just disgusting personality. Literally a Mary Sue who knows she's a Mary Sue and fully understands that can get away with anything right now which either creates or lends itself very well to her disgusting personality. A cocky piece of shit with a masterful BM game who knows since she's currently a Mary Sue she cannot lose. Umineko is complete genius.

 

[Tautology]

Jade from the Spawn animated series. She's the Ming-Na Wen voiced spotlight on the plot hole that is Angela's disappearance from the show.

They introduce Angela as being important to the story and she's forgotten by the next episode. Season 3 rolls around and Jade shows up where Angela conceivably should have. Why?

It can't have been because of the McFarlane/Gaiman feud over character rights. It was too early for that to be the reason.

 

[Ryallen]

Spoiler

From the very beginning, I didn't like Finn or Princess Bubblegum in Adventure Time. I always felt that PB was using Finn because he was always the easiest to use against her enemies, such as Ice King and the Duke of Nuts. Finn came off as an arrogant prick that needed to be taken down several pegs because he wasn't that great a hero to begin with. Well, I never liked Adventure Time that much until about halfway through, so maybe they don't belong here.

Mad Moxxi is a terrible person. I hated the ***** by the time I finished Borderlands 2 and the Pre-Sequel did nothing to help, because by that time my opinion of her couldn't have gone down anymore than it already had. She was petty, she was unpleasant to be around, she was vengeful, she was just not a nice person. Lilith, on the other hand, I learned to hate once I reached Pre-Sequel. They are both back-stabbing bitches who sell you out the instant they feel like it, despite Jack having proven a somewhat reliable ally up until then. It wasn't until they saw the eye that they betrayed him. Roland was the only person who understood what Jack had to go through as a leader and the gravity of the decisions he had to make for the sake of the mission. Roland even apologized to him once the Eye was blown up. And then, at the end of the game,

Spoiler

Lilith tried to have Athena killed, despite it being clearly shown that Jack's insanity was LILITH'S fault and not Athena's.

Don't even get me started on Yoko from Gurren Lagann. I've explained it far too many times to far too many people for me to write it out now. Let me just say that she became a MASSIVE ***** once

Spoiler

Kamina died and Nia showed up

and she never really made up for it.

I thought that was kind of the point of Borderlands. Everyone, from the psychos to bartenders to shopkeepers to random strangers, is a bastard coated bastard with bastard filling, and the only two real hero for light years around die pathetic, miserable deaths (Within about 2 minutes of each other).

From what I understood, everyone was supposed to be likable at the same time, and while Lilith would be likable for others, even though she isn't for me, Moxxi never endeared to me. Moxxi has no redeemable characteristics in my eyes and I hated talking to her for it.

 

[Michel Henzel]

Suzaku from Code Geass, god how I wanted to see him get killed. Annoying little fucker.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

Ok this is going to sound a little odd, but Kvothe from the Kingkiller Chronicles.

The world is actually pretty awesome and generally believable once you get passed magic of course. All the characters are fairly well done and the magic and political system is pretty awesome.

Unfortunately all of this is resting on the back of one of the least likable and interesting characters of all time. First of all he is the best at everything to the point he makes Superman look downright relateable. He is the best musician, fighter, and was taught how to make love my the Aphrodite equivalent. Normally I could just right this off as author insertion and move one, but he is the most insufferable asshole. He is constantly snarky, dickish, and comes off like a complete uncaring jerk and this is literally him telling his own story, so he could just change it to make himself look better. To summarize he is show to be a selfish snarky ass by himself telling his own story. I mean what?

I honestly don't understand the reason the author decided to characterize him as such, but then again I'm an amateur novelist and this guy has manage to publish several very popular novels, so what do I know.

Umm... Kvothe has been kicked in the teeth PLENTY of times. Literally and figuratively. He doesn't succeed at everything. Not by a LONG shot, man. He has often failed the simplest things. For example, a waitress comes up to him, very obviously interested in him, almost shoving her breasts in his face, and the most he can muster is a blank look and blushing. He could have simply nodded his head and it would have been enough but he floundered like an idiot and even got her to feel super awkward too in the process. Truly a master of romance there. Or how about during his childhood in Tarbean where he flat out ran away from MULTIPLE offers to get him back on his feet or at least a stable place. Stupid. So stupid.

And he suffered for these things. A lot. An awful lot. There was no father-figure to come swooping down like in so many fantasy stories to help him or teach him. He pulled himself up in the end by himself. He had to. Through his raw determination did he do this. That doesn't sound at all like a Mary Sue to me. That just sounds like an exceptionally strong person. And even THEN, he still got pwned a fair few times by NUMEROUS people.

Spoiler

Devi easily comes to mind, shutting him down completely by her pure talent and power. Ambrose has also one-upped him many times.

Also,

And besides, is it really so hard to believe that there are people IRL that are also this strong? That leave a lasting impact on the Earth and humanity's history? Because there are. Anyway. The only thing he seems to be an actual master of is lute music. I'm not kidding. The power of names? Elodin could fuck his shit over quickly. Swordplay? Almost anyone from the Adem. Engineering? Kilvin. Sympathy? Elxa Dal. And he only was ever able to resist Felurian because of his latent power of names. If it wasn't for that, he would've been easily enslaved to her and fucked over, literally and figuratively, and that would have been that.

Hopefully, this all will allow you to hopefully see him in a better light as a literary character but oh well.

 

[balladbird]

Vash the fucking Stampede.

I spent the full last half of he series with the desire to slap the stupid out of him being the only thing holding the show back from being a masterpiece for me.

I'd recommend you give "Gungrave" a watch, then.

Same creator, explores similar themes, but the primary character is fundamentally the opposite of Vash.

 

[Tautology]

Vash the fucking Stampede.

I spent the full last half of he series with the desire to slap the stupid out of him being the only thing holding the show back from being a masterpiece for me.

I'd recommend you give "Gungrave" a watch, then.

Same creator, explores similar themes, but the primary character is fundamentally the opposite of Vash.

I second that recommendation. That series is almost absolutely perfect. It's actually better than Trigun in my opinion.

 

[Spider RedNight]

I second Harley Quinn and Mad Moxxi. I never liked Moxxi so during her "betrayal" in TPS depending on which side you're on, I wasn't surprised nor did I care because I've hated her since her stupid DLC in the first one. Hate the innuendos, hate the clown getup, hate that everyone IN-universe likes her, it's just... bad.

I really love Soul Eater. I really HATE Maka. I can't put my finger on why but she is SO annoying to me. Like... why couldn't the manga or show have been about ANYONE ELSE EVER. Then again, maybe there's something to be said when one of my two favourite characters from that is Excalibur. Hmmmm anyway, I still stand by what I said - Soul Eater would've been much more entertaining if it wasn't primarily about Maka, who is so bland and such a snob to her dad and she's bossy and annoying and ugh.

I'm probably gonna get some flack for this being such an immature entry but I really like Don Bluth movies (especially the older ones, I can laugh at how... weird and bad the other ones can be) but I thought Petrie from The Land Before Time was positively useless and it really bugged me that he didn't speak in proper sentences. I won't even open that can of worms when it comes to the sequels but yeah. Loved the Land Before Time. Hated Petrie.

Generally speaking, I tend to sway in favour of Dragon Age but today we'll talk about Inquistion. More specifically, how Sera is the most goddamn annoying companion since Fenris' emo whining and Anders'... emo whining. She's immature, vulgar, useless (in my case, as I was playing as a Dalish Elf rogue archer), selfish, chatty, "lolrandom" and thinks that because she joined MY party, she can threaten to leave because she doesn't like the way I run things. Don't let the door hit you. This is also why I took umbrage with Jack from Mass Effect 2 (though she got better) - I saved HER ass then she sits in the bottom of my ship and tells me that if she wanted to, she could stage a single-handed mutiny and empty-threat, empty-threat, empty-threat. I hate it when writers think having a character talk smack to the MAIN character means they're "cool" and "badass".

One more, I'll keep this short, I promise. Angela from Silent Hill 2 reeeeally never did anything for me. Maybe it's that I think her story kind of fell flat or maybe I was just sooo invested in James that I didn't really pay attention - though I think a chunk of it was her really annoying voice (yeah I liked the new voices from the HD collection fight me) but Angela really never clicked with me so I wasn't at all upset to see her succumb to the town.

Sam from Uncharted 4.

Heh heh -nervous laugh, hides profile picture- Uhm... Diiiifferent strokes, different folks? ... I'll see myself out now.

 

[Jute88]

I'm not exactly in love with Doctor Who, but I enjoy it every now and then. The most agonising part of the the Doctor's adventures was Amy Pond. I'm still amazed I managed to finish the story lines she was involved in. She was the most annoying character in the show. I have no idea how Rory managed to tolerate her as long as he did. Me and my fiancee both cheered when she finally died.

Also, Cowboy Bebop, though not my favorite anime series (by far), it's was mostly pretty okay. Then Ed came along and so did my frustration with the show.

 

[Jute88]

Generally speaking, I tend to sway in favour of Dragon Age but today we'll talk about Inquistion. More specifically, how Sera is the most goddamn annoying companion since Fenris' emo whining and Anders'... emo whining. She's immature, vulgar, useless (in my case, as I was playing as a Dalish Elf rogue archer), selfish, chatty, "lolrandom" and thinks that because she joined MY party, she can threaten to leave because she doesn't like the way I run things. Don't let the door hit you. I hate it when writers think having a character talk smack to the MAIN character means they're "cool" and "badass".

She was mostly a coin toss away from being fired from my team as well. But to be fair, the companions in DA:I seem, kinda lacking. They feel somehow flat and boring. They all seem to be missing, something, which is frustrating, since I can't really point what's wrong with them.