Charles Darwin film too controversial for religious America
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I'll have you know that scouse chicks, dispite their hideous accent are actually quite fit lolSovvolf said:
^If Britain ever adopts the Euro, i am openly revolting if we don't get to have Darwin on our 10 Euro notes.spuddyt said:[http://img413.imageshack.us/i/greatern.jpg/]
Back on topic, i think that intelligent and reasonable American's should get their heads together and start thinking of a way to reduce the number of creationists- Healthcare may not be the only thing that Obama should reform.
As an historian i shall try and offer a possible answer. My guess is that in Europe, religion has been seen as a regressive thing, and responsible for many wars such as Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. As well as being indirectly responsible for the Thirty Years War, the conflict in Ireland, The English Civil War, the French Revelution etc etc etc. European religion sits atop a cess-pit of historical misery, and gone into stagnation as millions of Europeans began to lose faith. (note, this is true for Northern European countries, but not so true for countries like Italy and Spain, which are generally still quite religious)Lyndraco said:
American religion on the other hand started with a "fresh slate", and does not have this history of oppression and war, that Europeans find as a big "turn off". That, and that American religious fundamentalism has its roots in the sort of people that came over to America- basically Europe's religious- nut jobs that where kicked out because we where sick of them. While the rest of Europe secularised in the 19th and 20th centuries, a significant number of American's did not for reasons stated above- and in the 21st century we are now really starting to notice this difference.
That is my theory, i invite people to propose alternative theories to mine or whatever- i don't hold this to be my 100% certain opinion.
Yes there all fit and probably some of the best shags I've had but that accent can get annoying... my brother almost married one and even had a kid to one.Nickolai77 said:I'll have you know that scouse chicks, dispite their hideous accent are actually quite fit lolSovvolf said:
......I can't decide whether or not it would be better to bang my head ferociously against my desk or skip the country. I mean, shit...I really want to see that kind of thing, and the fact that it actually exists does my nerdy heart good; but this kind of attitude towards evolution makes me cry.
I really doubt that only 39% belive in evolution, it must be the telegraph who interprets the statistics in a misleading way.
Many British newspapers have a way of trying to rile people up.
Many British newspapers have a way of trying to rile people up.
Wow, I didn't think so many people were religious.
And also so ignorant. It's pretty unsettling.
And also so ignorant. It's pretty unsettling.
Fuck evolution, everyone knows that the world and all it's inhabitants were created by the flying spaghetti monster
But you know that Charles Darwin had a few views in favour of eugenics. But that doesn't mean that the theory of evolution is bad or untrue.captainwillies said:
It's like this: the theory of evolution and the natural selection between species is a sound and reasonable theory which have been supported by a lot of scientific evidence over the years. So far Darwin made a good move.
Then he and some of his supporters started to dabble in a few less-than-sound theories. Like social evolution between individuals in one species. Like saying that poor people in society should blame themselves for being poor, and them being poor and starving to death is only a result of "natural selection", which is bollocks of course.
But that doesn't mean that everything he said must be bollocks now does it?
It's like with one of my countrys famous scientists, Carl von Linnaues. He basically set out to catalogue all living species of plants by name, family, sub-species etc. etc. this would later be used on animals as well. Swedish students are being taught that he's a sort of scinetific national hero in that regard... But what is rarely mentioned is the fact that he's one of the major sources that started racial eugenics in the academic world as well. Hitler had some major influence by Carl von Linnaues, and Carl was even the one who divided human beings into different races, calling some ethnic of black people "Homo Monstrum" for instance, and tried to claim that some "races" of humans were inferior to others in matters of intellect. Meaning of course that Europeans were the "Creme de la creme" of intellectual human species while the rest of the world were somewhere below them.
It's quite easy to see where the sound scientific thinking started, and where it all went overboard into euro-centrism and hostile racism, don't you agree?
Does that mean that Carl von Linnaues efforts to catalouge species of plants and animals along with their characteristics and ways to recognize them? Hell no! It has been one of the most important scientific endavours ever made and it has helped in the fields of natural history, biology, medicine and all manner of scientific branches. It would be stupid to just toss all that out due to no other reason than political correctness.
It's like saying: -"Well he did write some really helpful stuff, but we have to burn it all and forget it was ever written because it has been proven that the author was also a racist bigot as well. To bad..."
So I really can't undestand what's so controversial about Darwin, even among religious people. Religion is about faith anyway, not evidence, so even if he was right about life in general it doesn't really matter if you have faith and stick to the commandments til the day you die. Being religious isn't about being right, it's about believing in an invisible man in the sky and that he means us all well. But this is something that a lot of religious people haven't realized...
of the 61 percent of people who said they don't believe in evolution, most of that is just the fence-sitting "I don't know" rather than "it's false". 36% have no opinion / don't know, and 25% don't believe. It's bad, very bad, but not too bad.
poll [http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/darwin-birthday-believe-evolution.aspx]
poll [http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/darwin-birthday-believe-evolution.aspx]
I live in the USA, Florida even. Thats as south as you can get, and I've met some people who don't believe in evolution but not like a crazy preacher and thats the few that I do know. I guess it's cause I live near where the shuttle launch pads are. Paranoid no, look at the some of the posts above mine, and in other topics. Do I hate to quote? I hope not.littlerob said:
*edit* Plus, just because you like them and I don't doesn't make them true. I won't believe just one source of people who've probably never been here. Besides polls are flawed infomation gathering tools to begin with.
well duh no one expects themcaptainwillies said:
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