Cheapest thing a Game has done to Cheat you out of a Win

[mrhappy1489]

I'd also like to add, when you go to a gym expecting their pokemon to be the specific type you've fought all the way through, then boom, they have some stupid pokemon that is immune or not very effected. Explain to me why clair has a fucking Kingdra so my stupid Ice pokemon are fucking useless. Also I would like to add that it is extremely annoying in the elite four as well. Seriously, why do they have pokemon using moves that are the opposite of their type, that throws strategy out the fucking window.

Ehm... This is for the same reason I carry Ice Beam on my Kingdra.

They have Pokemon with a varied movepool because they are the Elite 4, not random schmuck 46. You have to ADAPT your strategy, think around and counter them by using a fast poke / a meaty poke or at least something that does not get 2x/4x damage through the moves the enemy uses. And if you are really desperate why not use the x-items to boost your defenses?

If I can manage to cut through the Elite 4 in every game with a team containing pokes 10 lvl under the champions Pokemon without any kind of type advantage they can't be hard at all. And no, I do it without EV trained pokes or some kind of special tactics. I start the game and think "This run I'll complete with poison types" and do it.

Somtimes I wish that from the 4th Gym onwards every leader carries a varied team of 4-6 Pokes with a thought out movepool and items like Chesto Berry in combination with Rest. Monotype gyms really do nothing good if people have to face dualtype Pokemon with next to no weaknesses later on (like your Kingdra example, Dragon Water with only weakness being Dragon attacks).

My friend I was just posting this because it irritates me, I never have trouble with the elite 4, or anyone for that matter, all I was saying is that it seems wrong when a dark type pokemon kills my lucario because it happens to have low kick.

 

[Therumancer]

Shin Megami Tensei series (in general), limited save points, and you can run into a group of monsters, lose initiative and get total party wiped (or just lose from main character death in some cases) from a lucky hit with an instant death spell... then it's allll the way back to the beginning of the maze section.

I'm a SMT fan, but no game has done "cheap" better.

Persona 3 & 4, Devil Survivor and The Devil Summoner games are SMT but aren't as bad as some of the earlier ones I played (though they occasionally do that kind of stuff to). In say Digital Devil Saga (either one), or Nocturne it could be absolutly painful sometimes. Monster surprises you! (2" from boss and next save point) Mudo! Boom, back to las save point on the other side of a three dimensional pit filled labyrinth that took me a few hours and a bit of luck to get through.

 

[Balimaar]

I'd also like to add, when you go to a gym expecting their pokemon to be the specific type you've fought all the way through, then boom, they have some stupid pokemon that is immune or not very effected. Explain to me why clair has a fucking Kingdra so my stupid Ice pokemon are fucking useless. Also I would like to add that it is extremely annoying in the elite four as well. Seriously, why do they have pokemon using moves that are the opposite of their type, that throws strategy out the fucking window.

Ehm... This is for the same reason I carry Ice Beam on my Kingdra.

They have Pokemon with a varied movepool because they are the Elite 4, not random schmuck 46. You have to ADAPT your strategy, think around and counter them by using a fast poke / a meaty poke or at least something that does not get 2x/4x damage through the moves the enemy uses. And if you are really desperate why not use the x-items to boost your defenses?

If I can manage to cut through the Elite 4 in every game with a team containing pokes 10 lvl under the champions Pokemon without any kind of type advantage they can't be hard at all. And no, I do it without EV trained pokes or some kind of special tactics. I start the game and think "This run I'll complete with poison types" and do it.

Somtimes I wish that from the 4th Gym onwards every leader carries a varied team of 4-6 Pokes with a thought out movepool and items like Chesto Berry in combination with Rest. Monotype gyms really do nothing good if people have to face dualtype Pokemon with next to no weaknesses later on (like your Kingdra example, Dragon Water with only weakness being Dragon attacks).

My friend I was just posting this because it irritates me, I never have trouble with the elite 4, or anyone for that matter, all I was saying is that it seems wrong when a dark type pokemon kills my lucario because it happens to have low kick.

speaking of pokemon (i think it was sapphire?) my pure pyschic pokemon was absolutely useless in the elite 4. its seemed all their pokemon had a dark attack of some description...

 

[JaceArveduin]

League of Legends.

"Phew, glad I got out of that epic team fight with only a tiny amount of HP left! Ha ha- oh fuck you Twitch."

That's not how you spell Karthus!

I've got to go with... Well, it wasn't cheating, but I was playing Star Wars: Battlefront II when it was me and one last rebel scum. It turns out it was a Bothan and he 1shot me with that damned incinerator from stealth. I consider it cheating cause I can never get a kill with those accursed things.

 

[BaronIveagh]

KoF end boss instantly breaking a combo that can't be broken by players followed by an unblockable room filling one shot kill super while still in the air.

 

[Vegosiux]

"Oh, you didn't pick up that obscurely-mentioned screwdriver on the third turn of the game? Well, sucks to be you, har har!"

Kaizo traps of all kinds. Getting killed after you've already won is just demeaning.

Well, IWBTG should just be named "Cheap ways to kill you: The Game"

League of Legends.

"Phew, glad I got out of that epic team fight with only a tiny amount of HP left! Ha ha- oh fuck you Twitch."

That's not how you spell Karthus!

Yes, even Gangplank is more similar (It has a K in it, too!)

 

[Insomniac55]

Eh have none of you played the computer version of Chess that is included with windows?

Seriously that is CHEATING in every sense of the word.

Once you beef up the difficulty you'll see the computer move pawns like they're queens to stop your strategy. I've also seen the computer move a pawn diagonally behind a pawn I had right beside it... And somehow capture it.



All other cheating is just lol-worthy when next to the madness that is Windows Chess.

It turns out that the move you described is the 'en passant', and it's a legal move.

 

[Skullpanda]

Insane AI in SC2 is just... insane. Thought I had a clever idea, would just go for a really early cheese rush with some marines, but by the time I had my (mind you, proxied) tier 1 marine rush, the AI was doing a push with a few thors...

Edit: To say more specifically why it cheats me out of a win... insane AI harvesters gain about 2x the number of minerals and gas you do, so it's not as if they just play really well, they flat out cheat for extra resources.

I'm 99% sure that SC2 Insane AI automatically starts with 1k in both Minerals and Gas...and at least 1 more harvester than you...not completely sure on that one.

Oh, and if you manage to keep the AI from killing you and force it to mine out...guess what? It will keep giving itself 1k in both gas and minerals. And this is on ANY difficulty. Apparently there is no attrition in space.

 

[Chunga the Great]

Sins of a Solar Empire. I was laying tied up attacking the AIs last 2 planets when they manage to bypass my fleet and enter a wormhole leading the my home planets doorstep. I'd rather delete the save and start again than retreat across 15 fucking planets to defend my home world.

 

[BishopofAges]

Puzzle (dod gamit) Quest, that game cheats. Period. It is played similar or exactly like Bejeweled except the jewels give you mana or damage your opponent or reset the field, etc. and you/the computer take turns moving pieces. You can calculate your moves all you wants and when a line is broken more pieces fall down and maybe you get a combo, maybe not. THE COMPUTER makes ANY move and instantly knows whats to fall next so it goes: MOVE, COMBO, DOUBLE COMBO, 3X COMBO, 4X COMBO! so he has full mana and you're hurting like a bastard.

captcha: orange juice, gimme some.

 

[kickyourass]

Sorry for critiquing, but your mistake was attacking Rome far too soon, but then again whenever I play Total War I somehow manage to piss off basically everyone on the damn map every single time, so it might not be my place to talk.

My own example is actually several moments in Dragon Age: Origins, and they all revolve around 2 spells, Chain Lightning, and Curse of Mortality. Now Chain Lightning is for all intents and purposes the DA:O equivalent of "Rock Fall, Everyone Dies" the only effective counter to it is to know ahead of time which specific encounters involve enemies with the spell, and then bum rush those everyone else stabs/shoots you in the back. At least this spell has a slight balancing out since you also get to possess the spell yourself and it's just as effective against enemies.

Curse of Mortality on the other hand is redundant to the point of uselessness in a player's arsenal but WILL kill one of your party members if used by an enemy. It inflicts large amounts of damage over time, while simultaneously completely taking away your ability to heal (Something enemies in this game almost never do anyway, making it totally redundant to similar spells like Crushing Prison). Worst part is about 70% of the time this spell gets cast on the very last party member left standing just to pour some salt into the wound.

Spoiler: only semi-related sidebar

The really weird part about the frustrating sections of DA:O is that the difficult gulf between Normal Difficulty and 'Casual' Difficulty is cosmic. I bumped the game from Normal to Casual during one particularly ball-busting section and I could have literally won the battle with my eyes closed. It's not meant for new or 'casual' gamers, it's meant for gamers that just came out of extensive brain surgery and can only use 2 fingers.

 

[Moriim]

Most recently? Dying to the end boss of Act II in Diablo 3 because of server lag. Always online, working as intended.

Bad guys getting up after I break all the bones in both their legs in Deus Ex:HR is pretty obnoxious too.

"Oh what bro? You got absolutely massacred by a trenchcoated man with robot arms? Let me just pat you on the shoulder and you'll be just fine."

Needless to say I ended up switching to lethal combat, screw bonus xp.

 

[Ross Thompson]

Any of you ever played Lord of the Rings: The Third Age? That game will make you hate everything about turn-based RPGs. You get off maybe one attack, then the computer gets to hit you for at least 5 turns. I've personally been on the receiving end of at least 9 consecutive attacks from about 6 enemies, you're only allowed to have 3 party members (4 with a guest in specific parts of the story). Oh, also, killing the enemies one at a time by focusing on one doesn't help, as they can get replaced during the battle by even stronger enemies multiple times. Killed a Uruk-Hai Berserker in Helms Deep that was part of a 3 man team, only to have him replaced by a goddamned Armored Troll.

Also, any RTS game will cheat you like a ************. Any difficultly above Easy or Medium, and they start a skirmish with more resources than you and produce crap loads more units than you way early on. Not to mention they seem to know exactly where the hell you're located on the map without scouting at all. And they'll mostly ignore other AI factions on the map and go after you as a top priority.

Can't believe no-one's mentioned Call of Duty in a "cheating" forum, but grenades on CoD: World at War Veteran campaign? Fuckin things would seemingly grow up out of the ground underneath your feet. Someone should have mentioned Last Stand/Final Stand to, as the person on the ground gets free invincibility frames while they get to shoot back at you.

Would like to thank the people who brought up the Mimic in Sens Fortress on Dark Souls (cursed so much when it happened to me, I could have curdled milk) and the guy who talked about Shao Khan on the new Mortal Kombat. I can barely describe the rage I felt every time that son of a ***** juggled me with his little glowing green charge of invincibility moves.

 

[spartandude]

Sins of a Solar Empire. I was laying tied up attacking the AIs last 2 planets when they manage to bypass my fleet and enter a wormhole leading the my home planets doorstep. I'd rather delete the save and start again than retreat across 15 fucking planets to defend my home world.

I had that once, it was the greatest experience in my gaming life, 2 really intense battles, 1 at their planet and one at mine, i can understand why your be annoyed (i was at first) but for my it quickly turned into a really exciting battle that was so much fun

 

[Shuguard]

I was playing might and magic heros VI and i was about to finish a campaign map for the necromancer army. I had two battles left to finish and it would all be over for that map. I finished the first battle and recovered all my troops losing nothing. Then I proceed to finish the second battle taking a few losses but that was the end of the battle. Right as i was about to finish the map the always online DRM decided i wasn't online and decided i shouldn't have my win. Damn you Ubisoft...
I had to repeat those two battles, but i was annoyed none the less.

 

[spartandude]

Any of you ever played Lord of the Rings: The Third Age? That game will make you hate everything about turn-based RPGs. You get off maybe one attack, then the computer gets to hit you for at least 5 turns. I've personally been on the receiving end of at least 9 consecutive attacks from about 6 enemies, you're only allowed to have 3 party members (4 with a guest in specific parts of the story). Oh, also, killing the enemies one at a time by focusing on one doesn't help, as they can get replaced during the battle by even stronger enemies multiple times. Killed a Uruk-Hai Berserker in Helms Deep that was part of a 3 man team, only to have him replaced by a goddamned Armored Troll.

oh god dont remind me, i still have night mares of the two mumakil at the same time

 

[ParanoidEngineer]

Any of you ever played Lord of the Rings: The Third Age? That game will make you hate everything about turn-based RPGs. You get off maybe one attack, then the computer gets to hit you for at least 5 turns. I've personally been on the receiving end of at least 9 consecutive attacks from about 6 enemies, you're only allowed to have 3 party members (4 with a guest in specific parts of the story). Oh, also, killing the enemies one at a time by focusing on one doesn't help, as they can get replaced during the battle by even stronger enemies multiple times. Killed a Uruk-Hai Berserker in Helms Deep that was part of a 3 man team, only to have him replaced by a goddamned Armored Troll.

oh god dont remind me, i still have night mares of the two mumakil at the same time

Huh, never struggled with that game.

Anyway, in Fallout: New Vegas, I was vilified with the NCR, so the Rangers did their "y'all better give us some pressies or we shoot yo ass". Then, three days later, I was leaving a mine with no Stimpaks, low health, and little ammo in my best guns (lovely lovely Deathclaws), and they showed up. They shot me. I respawned outside the cave. I couldn't fast travel because they blocked it, and couldn't run away because they were faster.