Cheating vs Glitches in the game

[squid5580]

My main issue with glitches is stuff like the javelin glitch that can now get you banned when the game testers really should have noticed it.

Why? Just because it exists doesn't give people the right to exploit it. Sure it should have been caught by testers but it wasn't. So until they can fix it (which is not as easy as waving a magic wand) they have to protect the community the best they can. And banning the glitchers who are ruining the experience should be taught a lesson. Maybe next time they see an exploit like that on youtube they won't use it.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

In my personal opinion, exploiting a glitch isn't really cheating. If you're able to do something in a game without hacking it, then it isn't cheating. So yeah, I would say that it's the developers fault for the existence of a glitch, and not the players who use them. To be honest, I find glitches extremely fun a lot of the time, so you might as well enjoy them while they're still around.

Any time you exploit a system that gives you an unfair advantage over the other players, I'd call that cheating. In the case of the Javelin glitch, there unforunately IS no solution. Few maps offer the possibility of halting the player before they reach the lethal radius and you're faced with two options - shoot the offending player and be killed by javelin blast, or be stabbed in the face because you hesitated. There are many other examples in other games. Using the Dual 1887 shotguns in MW2 isn't a cheat - the system is working as designed and offers a counter (it is often an irritation, but one that can be overcome.)

 

[orangebandguy]

Devs should really fix them, luckily Tf2 glitches get fixed fairly regularly unlike MW2.
Maybe a patch will come and sort it all out for you lot.

ya and maybe gearbox will patch borderlands for the pc so it can be played online.

Is it something to do with Gamespy? I don't trust it one bit.

My anti virus hates it, so I got rid of it and never used it again.

It was sarcasm, gearbox does give a shit about the port of borderlands for the pc.

Oh. I've never played it, I just heard Gamespy and avoided it.

 

[Trivun]

If there's a glitch in multiplayer then the developer is partly to blame for not sorting it out during testing and for not finding it anyway. If people use it to cheat, however, then they're cheats (obviously) and it's their fault as well. And if they cheat with glitches then they should be banned from the game.

However, glitches in single player are entirely the developers fault, again for not finding them and fixing them. However, if glitches exist in single player, aren't patched, and end up used by players to gain the upper hand, then that's fine. It's in the game, so it should be allowed to be used.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Both the gamers and the developers are at fault. The gamer should know better than to exploit glitches that take away the enjoyment of people around them. The developers should A) Not release glitches and B) FIX THEM PROMPTLY. It's been what, over a week of the Javelin glitch being rampant? How long could it possibly take to fix something like that, a day? Maybe two if you suck at programming.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

Devs should really fix them, luckily Tf2 glitches get fixed fairly regularly unlike MW2.
Maybe a patch will come and sort it all out for you lot.

ya and maybe gearbox will patch borderlands for the pc so it can be played online.

Is it something to do with Gamespy? I don't trust it one bit.

My anti virus hates it, so I got rid of it and never used it again.

It was sarcasm, gearbox does give a shit about the port of borderlands for the pc.

Oh. I've never played it, I just heard Gamespy and avoided it.

It just screams ''Spy!'' to me. (Or spywere.) I don't trust it as far as i can throw it. not at all.

on topic. Glitching is cheating, exploiting to gain the upperhand.

In Zombie master, some people can climb on boxes, jump out of the map's roof, walk along the edges to the end, then jump off, avoiding everything.

 

[hclarke15]

Both the gamers and the developers are at fault. The gamer should know better than to exploit glitches that take away the enjoyment of people around them. The developers should A) Not release glitches and B) FIX THEM PROMPTLY. It's been what, over a week of the Javelin glitch being rampant? How long could it possibly take to fix something like that, a day? Maybe two if you suck at programming.

hopefully it won't be as bad as gears of war. Then i would just stop playing

 

[General Ken8]

Probably the developers fault, they should've noticed it
Especially in the new COD, I mean seriously, the javelin glitch works on any map, anytime, and can be done with most rocket launchers.

 

[ffs-dontcare]

Both the gamers and the developers are at fault. The gamer should know better than to exploit glitches that take away the enjoyment of people around them. The developers should A) Not release glitches and B) FIX THEM PROMPTLY. It's been what, over a week of the Javelin glitch being rampant? How long could it possibly take to fix something like that, a day? Maybe two if you suck at programming.

You're only qualified to make that statement if you're working in a relevant position in such a games development company yourself.

 

[hclarke15]

Probably the developers fault, they should've noticed it
Especially in the new COD, I mean seriously, the javelin glitch works on any map, anytime, and can be done with most rocket launchers.

Yea it also works with the Stinger, AT4S? (probably butchered that name) and i'm not sure about the RPG.
For all i know it could work with other guns to.

 

[mento 2425]

depending on the effect glitches are fun in moderation.
small glitches like changing your appearance never matter.
medium glitches like getting to hard to reach areas are Ok in moderation.
big glitches like automatically constantly kill everyone is never ok.
it is their fault if they use big glitches or medium glitches too much.
companies that delete too many medium or any small are bad.
sometimes a company should just go "ok theres this glitch that everyone likes and has fun with, we didnt mean for it to be in the game but lets go with it."

 

[hclarke15]

I think game companies should fix all glitches but not blame the players for cheating.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Both the gamers and the developers are at fault. The gamer should know better than to exploit glitches that take away the enjoyment of people around them. The developers should A) Not release glitches and B) FIX THEM PROMPTLY. It's been what, over a week of the Javelin glitch being rampant? How long could it possibly take to fix something like that, a day? Maybe two if you suck at programming.

You're only qualified to make that statement if you're working in a relevant position in such a games development company yourself.

Ok, well here's a semi-related example.

WoW's patch 3.3 came out Tuesday. As per usual, there were lots of minor bugs and glitches throughout the game that the testers missed. On WEDNESDAY night, about 30 hours after the patch launched officially, almost all of them were fixed. I know that fixes on Xbox have to go through Microsoft certification and whatnot, but it's been 10 days to 2 weeks of non-stop glitching on MW2.

 

[Over The Clouds]

Glitches and mods may seem fun, but if you play a game correctly, it's far more fun than ruining it. (normally)

 

[B4D 9R4MM3R]

I never glitch, unless it is by accident, in which case I certainly do not mean it and usually try to avoid doing it in future.

It always starts with the players. They are the ones who find the glitch and begin exploiting it. Nobody can seriously expect the developers to find every single glitch and bug in a game before release, short of keeping the game in beta for ten years before release. However, there is a point where the developers should become aware of the glitch and make an attempt to patch it so it can no longer be exploited.

It is all relative to the severity of the glitch of course. It could be as simple as tweeking a few numbers, or could require many lines of code undergoing meticulous revision.

 

[General Ken8]

Probably the developers fault, they should've noticed it
Especially in the new COD, I mean seriously, the javelin glitch works on any map, anytime, and can be done with most rocket launchers.

Yea it also works with the Stinger, AT4S? (probably butchered that name) and i'm not sure about the RPG.
For all i know it could work with other guns to.

If you do it with the RPG, the rocket just sits in mid air when your guy blows up and the rocket blows up like five minutes later