Child suspended for his religious beliefs

[Capo Taco]

You could make the argument that Jihad is an important part of the Islamic religion, but does this mean we should tolerate Jihad? There has to be an objective moral standard which we can agree on or else anything and everything becomes valid and morally permissible.

Now that I don't agree with.

Jihad is only supposed to be used as a last resort and it is never offensive moves, only defensive. The modern interpretation of this has been warped by the terrorist organisations who have harmed they're own people more than they've harmed Western society.

Then people devoted to islam have diverged from the supposed meaning for thousands of years. Since the diversion is so widespread, can it really be called a diversion?

 

[bushwhacker2k]

I don't see what the problem is, if they can make you say 'under God' and 'Amen' every day in the morning at schools then why can't he be free with his religion?

Besides, Pastafarianism makes about as much sense as Christianity, perhaps more.

P.S. Pirates are awesome.

 

[165]

well I just had my daily dose of "da fak?"

 

[Seanchaidh]

Our stance on homosexuality is that it's a sin, just like greed, lust, hate, jealousy, etc. These sins result in us taking actions that are sinful such as stealing, sleeping with another man's wife, killing someone, etc. We all have these sins, and we're all filled with these desires, there's nothing we can change about that on our own. It's the same with homosexuality.

See, this is what I never get about Christians who claim homosexuality as a sin... this paragraph makes it sound as if you're all fighting this life or death struggle against an incredibly powerful lust for other men. I guess it explains the behavior of someone like Ted Haggard, but it hardly seems reasonable to think that you're all like that.

You could make the argument that Jihad is an important part of the Islamic religion, but does this mean we should tolerate Jihad? There has to be an objective moral standard which we can agree on or else anything and everything becomes valid and morally permissible.

Don't worry, if everything is morally permissible we'll default to shmorality, and I assure you everything won't be shmorally permissible for quite some time, or at least as long as the subversive nihilists don't get their hands on it and argumentatively corrupt the shmoral beliefs of the naive objective shmoral universalists. Morality isn't a thing, it's a way to describe behavior and choices. Its existence is in the mind and nowhere else. What we do when we moralize is assert what we think are agreeable rules for a community to live under. And people will agree or disagree usually for reasons other than objective ones. You can have the same sets of facts and arrive at opposite moral conclusions: thus the possible existence of just wars if those opposite moral conclusions have an impact on behavior that is threatening enough.

I agree that each school should have standardized rules, but I don't agree that what "counts" as a legitimate religion should be part of them. If a religious exception can be made to a rule, there is a serious question of whether that rule should exist at all.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Personally I belive "RELIGION" is the grand master of the BULLSHIT department. Lets see millions of jews were slaughtered over their religion, thousands were tortured and executed by the spanish inquisition, thousands were killed in the "holy" crusades over a "holy" city. Face it religion is a handicap on society and in the long run seperates us and causes unessecary bloodshed.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Personally I belive "RELIGION" is the grand master of the BULLSHIT department. Lets see millions of jews were slaughtered over their religion, thousands were tortured and executed by the spanish inquisition, thousands were killed in the "holy" crusades over a "holy" city. Face it religion is a handicap on society and in the long run seperates us and causes unessecary bloodshed.

It's always nice to see somebody bring a completely new idea to a topic like this.

I don't see what anything you're saying has to do with a dress code violation.

Directed at everyone else: Just because some kid wants to make this about religion doesn't mean it necessarily is. There's a big difference between wearing a tiny cross, and coming to school in white rainment with a crown of thorns around your head. This is a place people go to learn. I think most would admit it might be hard to study if the person next to you was dressed like a circus clown.

 

[shannon.archer]

It gets to a point though where people use these crackpot religions as excuses. Just look at Al Qaeda S:

 

[Novan Leon]

Personally I belive "RELIGION" is the grand master of the BULLSHIT department. Lets see millions of jews were slaughtered over their religion, thousands were tortured and executed by the spanish inquisition, thousands were killed in the "holy" crusades over a "holy" city. Face it religion is a handicap on society and in the long run seperates us and causes unessecary bloodshed.

I think it's easy to make the argument that unrestrained government, particularly abusive dictatorships, have caused far more death and mayhem than any religion ever has.

An estimated one-hundred million people died as a result of Mao Zedong's policies within the first five years of his reign alone.

 

[Dasher]

Dasher:

Nothing makes my day like seeing a smarmy little wiseass singled out for further abuse and degradation until he gets the clue that NOBODY cares about his desire to attract attention

He might not have been smarmy, he might not have been little and he might not have been a wiseass. The article had no quotes from him (or photos). You never know, he might have some decent opinions and reasons.

And [italic]I[/italic] care.

I don't know about you, but I'd be a much happier person if I saw the odd pirate walking down the street.

Well, that would make it easier to run them down with a HumVee...

:-D

 

[grayjo]

Personally I belive "RELIGION" is the grand master of the BULLSHIT department. Lets see millions of jews were slaughtered over their religion, thousands were tortured and executed by the spanish inquisition, thousands were killed in the "holy" crusades over a "holy" city. Face it religion is a handicap on society and in the long run seperates us and causes unessecary bloodshed.

I think it's easy to make the argument that unrestrained government, particularly abusive dictatorships, have caused far more death and mayhem than any religion ever has.

An estimated one-hundred million people died as a result of Mao Zedong's policies within the first five years of his reign alone.

More people died of old age... that doesn't diminish the impact Religion has had on the death toll.