China, a country with no soul?

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Tselis

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Nickolai77 said:
So a van driver runs over a toddler and now all 1 billion of his countrymen "have no soul?"

The Chinese don't have a collective conciousness, they aren't the borg. They're humans like us you know....

And yes, this kind of thing can happen in any country, Western or Eastern, because humans, irrespective of race and culture, can be really stupid and/or really evil.

Yep. Humans are the problem, not a specific culture.



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Imus69 said:
Only here on the Escapist would people defend what happened. Truly, only here at the Escapist.
You need to actually pay attention to what people post. No one defended the action.

The bystander effect is nothing new, and not exclusive to China. It's bad, but it's stupid to attribute it only to China.

The hit and run is not being defended, it's indefensible. However, China doesn't have the Good Samaritan laws that alot of western countries have. People can be and have been bankrupted by trying to help someone. So you end up with the dilemma, help someone who obviously needs help, and could be dying, risking a massive lawsuit in the process (a lawsuit from which you have no defense); or, leave the injured person to their fate, and keep your own family safe. Who are you going to choose? In China, you choose your own family. That's their culture, family is everything.
 

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The reason that no one helped is because a couple of weeks ago in China a man who tried to help an elderly woman after she fell over was prosecuted by the government because something something about his intervention broke government rules on dealing with accident victims.

That was still fresh in the minds of everyone when this happened to the little girl, and the people who walked by and ignored her did so not because they lack compassion, but because they were afraid of the government prosecuting them for it.

Yes the chinese government is screwed up beyond belief here, and no, the people who walked by the little girl and ignored her are not completely blameless, but to assert that everyone in the country has no soul because of this incident is ridiculous. If anything it proves how oppressive the chinese government is, and how frightened the citizens are of it to be able to force themselves to ignore a little girl who was just run over, all for their own safety.

source: http://news.yahoo.com/outrage-bleeding-china-toddler-left-street-062238612.html
 

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Imus69 said:
I'm sorry I know not all of China is like this but when I came across the video I just flew off the handle. So these are my questions.

Why was she not helped? She wasn't being attacked like other cases shown above.
Why was she moved like a sack of garbage off to the side of the street without being helped further?
Why did the driver of the first van stop and then almost peel out on her?
Why did the driver of the second van run her over like a dead animal?
Why did the van hit her in the first place? It was parked and then drove right into her. You would have to be blind to not see her.
What the hell were her parents doing?
Is this common in China?
Are women really considered worthless in China?
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Calliousness combined with the law. A while back, many areas in the U.S. had laws that could pin responsibility on you if you helped. This led to cases such as a hospital in Colorado being sued because they left a woman lying in the parking lot for two hours. Sounds callous until you looked at the law that said that the hospital could be hit for a malpractice suit if they helped. (Believe the law was revoked in the ensuing ****storm.) You would be surprised at how many laws in the U.S. circumvent the Good Samaritan ruling.

If you followed up on the article, the guy who was interviewed in the second half of the video moved her off the street then was yelling for some of the surrounding shopkeepers to help. When noone did, he went to find the girl's mother. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in the world has a cell phone. What would you have done under those circumstances?

This is where I roll out a ream of Hit-and-run incidents and the motivations therein. A lot of people will take the chance on getting away with it rather than facing certain consequences. Some do it because they freak and aren't thinking clearly.

Maybe the second driver didn't believe it was really a person. Maybe their eyes played tricks on them. I've seen garbage on the road that looked like an animal. Sometimes our brains play tricks with what we're perceiving. Maybe the second driver didn't see her. Maybe the second driver didn't care.

First, it wasn't parked. Second, it must be nice to have perfect awareness of your surroundings. I have missed things while driving and almost got into some near misses. Those were with cars that were much larger than a girl wandering out into the street.

Mom was shopping and lost track of the girl. If and when you have children, you will understand how that happens.

As common as it is anywhere.

Much as it is cute to see you try to continue to turn this into an anti-China/women's rights thing, I don't think the gender was really an issue here.